2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[RedSoxFan28]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

I doubt that.

He wants to raise taxes to a insane amount

Would you rather pay 5k in taxes, but 10k out of pocket
or pay 10k in taxes, but 0 out of pocket?

I mean you get taxed more in the second situation, must be the worse deal.



(made up numbers, but the point is still there )

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Would you rather pay 5k in taxes, but 10k out of pocket

or pay 10k in taxes, but 0 out of pocket?



I mean you get taxed more in the second situation, must be the worse deal.







(made up numbers, but the point is still there )

The first one.

My taxes would not even out even with “free” healthcare

[free2131]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

If people want free health care, why not just move to Canada or Europe?

Yes, the one thing I think of when I think of the impoverished who can't afford healthcare is the amount of international travel they do...

I'd rather stay here and fight for the change I think is the best for everyone.

[RedSoxFan28]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

The first one.

My taxes would not even out even with “free” healthcare

Would rather spend 5k more in that scenario to get the same product(s)?

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

'I think [Sanders] saw and we all saw the downside of the Soviet system,' Seaver told the Post. 'Yes, they may have had low-cost apartments, but things were very out of whack, there were food shortages, no political freedom.'

'I suspect that what Bernie saw in Russia probably affected his views that you see today, where he is not anti-free-enterprise or capitalism but he wants to have a safety net and give a fair shake to all, but certainly not to have a command economy we saw in the Soviet Union,' Seaver said.

Why hasnt he applied what he allegedly learned from the ussr to Venezuela?

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Would rather spend 5k more in that scenario to get the same product(s)?

I guarantee I would not save 5k

That would only happen for people that make less than 20k a year

[RedSoxFan28]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

I guarantee I would not save 5k

That would only happen for people that make less than 20k a year

Was talking exclusively for the scenario only. Numbers weren't accurate.

[free2131]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

Why hasnt he applied what he allegedly learned from the ussr to Venezuela?

Does Bernie run Venezuela? Are the policies he's proposing the exact kind that exist in Venezuela? Or are people throwing around an obviously broken system that isn't remotely what is being proposed to try and scare people?

[rman112]

Originally Posted by free2131

Does Bernie run Venezuela? Are the policies he's proposing the exact kind that exist in Venezuela? Or are people throwing around an obviously broken system that isn't remotely what is being proposed to try and scare people?

He's trying to "rework" communism to fit modern times. It won't work.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Was talking exclusively for the scenario only. Numbers weren't accurate.

Regardless, I looked at his tax plan and I would 100% see my taxes skyrocket

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Would you rather pay 5k in taxes, but 10k out of pocket

or pay 10k in taxes, but 0 out of pocket?



I mean you get taxed more in the second situation, must be the worse deal.







(made up numbers, but the point is still there )

I can predict my tax expense, how exactly can you predict out of pocket.
Oh that's right, you can't.

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[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by free2131

Does Bernie run Venezuela? Are the policies he's proposing the exact kind that exist in Venezuela? Or are people throwing around an obviously broken system that isn't remotely what is being proposed to try and scare people?

No. Mostly. No.

Bernie pretends to not be a communist. He pretends his healthcare plan is like the ones in Western Europe where private health insurance is very prevalent. And his supporters are dumb enough to think he one of those nice clean enlightened Western Europe socialists instead of a remnant from the 50s US Communist scene. Now don’t get me wrong, Trump sucks but Bernie is orders of magnitude worse.

[RedSoxFan28]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I can predict my tax expense, how exactly can you predict out of pocket.
Oh that's right, you can't.

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Not sure if that helps your case as much as you think.

[Soxfanguy]

I don’t get why people are voting for him even though he’s a 78 year old man in very poor health

[discostu]

While I believe Sanders is a fraud and is an easy win for Trump, he's not advocating for communism or socialism.

He's merely arguing for a better safety net structure, on the backs of the wealthy.

It's not a good plan. It's not a well thought plan.

But wow, does he get the numbers.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

I don’t get why people are voting for him even though he’s a 78 year old man in very poor health

No one actually voted for him. It's all Russian Intervention.

[Astros19]

If Sanders were to be elected and raise taxes on the extremely wealthy, what do you think's going to happen?
Do you think those folks are going to stick around, or find somewhere else to live where they won't get bent over?
You're going to run out of other people's money sooner than you think.

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[coltsnsox07]

I was reading all the funny comments to the yahoo article about Bernie winning again tonight...
"This is great, my wife and I are so excited about Bernie 2020. We are already discussing quitting our jobs and letting Bernie pay our way, free college for our kids, no health care costs and let all the rich folks pay our way - about time. Its almost like winning the lottery so vote Bernie 2020 now!"

[Soxfanguy]

Doesn’t it seems suspicious that they called the race with only 4% of the votes in?

Also why did they choose to use a app? For all we know the Russians probably hacked the app to get votes for Bernie

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by Astros19

If Sanders were to be elected and raise taxes on the extremely wealthy, what do you think's going to happen?
Do you think those folks are going to stick around, or find somewhere else to live where they won't get bent over?
You're going to run out of other people's money sooner than you think.

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The people with the most money are the ones who can move the easiest

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Not sure if that helps your case as much as you think.

I do have some say in how healthy I live my life, whereas i have no control how the rest of America lives theirs.
I'll take my chances on me, but shouldn't be forced to take my chances on you.

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[Soxfanguy]

America is one of fattest countries in the world: America also has very high health care costs

I feel as there may be some relationship

[Astros19]

Am I the only one who's noticed that billionaire is the new millionaire?
Hmmm, I wonder why that changed over the last couple elections?
#hypocrites
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[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Am I the only one who's noticed that billionaire is the new millionaire?
Hmmm, I wonder why that changed over the last couple elections?
#hypocrites
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More like millionaire is the new billionaire

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Am I the only one who's noticed that billionaire is the new millionaire?
Hmmm, I wonder why that changed over the last couple elections?
#hypocrites
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It's because Bernie and the rest saying it became millionaires.