2025 Topps Star Wars Smugglers Outpost: Stellar Signatures

[bubblesquirtle]

Originally Posted by Greedo

Topps 100% rigged this product! There was a case with THREE Harrison Ford Sketchagraphs! Like if a normie non breaker got that case you’d easily get like 15k+ for the three!

https://ibb.co/ccFm5YPx

It’s more so Topps has terrible packing/mixing procedure than rigging.


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[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by Greedo

Topps 100% rigged this product! There was a case with THREE Harrison Ford Sketchagraphs! Like if a normie non breaker got that case you’d easily get like 15k+ for the three!

https://ibb.co/ccFm5YPx

We all do not hate Topps enough.

[scotthouseman]

I'm glad that one of my Ackbar sketchographs were pulled! Unfortunate that it was in a lucky breaker's post.

[crdbored]

Originally Posted by bubblesquirtle

It’s more so Topps has terrible packing/mixing procedure than rigging.


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Not surprising. The fanatics collation has been absolute trash for a while now.

[AngusMacGyver]

If your packing procedures are set up so that this happens regularly it's a feature, not a bug.

[finfangfan]

Granted, when you get skunked it’s a kick in the But it’s also cool to break a loaded box. I almost think it’s a cool trade off. Or do people prefer cookie cutter boxes with equal hit ratios?

[AngusMacGyver]

Originally Posted by scotthouseman

I'm glad that one of my Ackbar sketchographs were pulled! Unfortunate that it was in a lucky breaker's post.

Great Ackbar sketch! Everyone should check out Scott's other sketches in this set:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=869031
Really good stuff in there.

[scotthouseman]

Originally Posted by AngusMacGyver

Great Ackbar sketch! Everyone should check out Scott's other sketches in this set:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=869031
Really good stuff in there.

Thank you!

[AngusMacGyver]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

Granted, when you get skunked it’s a kick in the But it’s also cool to break a loaded box. I almost think it’s a cool trade off. Or do people prefer cookie cutter boxes with equal hit ratios?

Loaded box is fine, but just having one huge hit makes any box break on its own. I think most of us have a bigger problem with case A having six or seven cards clearly bigger than anything in case B. We don't even try to fill Star Wars case breaks on the forum anymore after getting weak cases for what felt like years. Now you see insane cases going to whoever has the most social media followers and it feels like ripping a box or two is a gut punch every time.

[Jaysabz]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

Granted, when you get skunked it’s a kick in the But it’s also cool to break a loaded box. I almost think it’s a cool trade off. Or do people prefer cookie cutter boxes with equal hit ratios?

I think everyone likes the idea of getting a loaded box. But Topps / Fanatics aren't getting many boxes into consumer's hands. Just direct to the big online sellers and breakers.

In the case of 3 Harrison Ford sketchagraphs in one case that ended up with a breaker, you have people suspicious that loaded cases are intentionally going to breakers.

But in reality, these days, cases aren't even available to regular folks. Most if not all inventory went to the big online shops and breakers, and a few measley boxes were available to the public through Topps / Fanatics, but your average consumer hardly had a chance to get one box at retail price unless they had extreme good luck or a bot to help them when the product went live through the Topps / Fanatics site.

[kyle1707]

Originally Posted by Greedo

Topps 100% rigged this product! There was a case with THREE Harrison Ford Sketchagraphs! Like if a normie non breaker got that case you’d easily get like 15k+ for the three!

https://ibb.co/ccFm5YPx

This just sums up this hobby

It’s a scam and run by dirt bags

Fanatics is going to crash this hobby.

Just wait

[nicoga3000]

Originally Posted by Greedo

Topps 100% rigged this product! There was a case with THREE Harrison Ford Sketchagraphs! Like if a normie non breaker got that case you’d easily get like 15k+ for the three!

https://ibb.co/ccFm5YPx

Oof. It's hard not to feel like this product is seeded.

[Greedo]

Synth on whatnot pulled a BASE Chrome Black Dave Prowse auto………..

Update same box also had a Shaak Ti Finest Super…….

[machine74]

Contacted D&A yesterday and got the link to sell. I was just waiting to confirm I had it in hand, which I did yesterday afternoon. Now the "we buy" link is gone save for cases.

[Jaysabz]

Originally Posted by machine74

Contacted D&A yesterday and got the link to sell. I was just waiting to confirm I had it in hand, which I did yesterday afternoon. Now the "we buy" link is gone save for cases.

I'm wondering if it's for weight.

They don't seem to be putting in extra spacers or other things to throw off the product weight, and it seems some of more valuable cards are those SSP Cortosis Metal cards, which appear to have some heft to them.

There's also a few framed metal cards, and the Quad Auto I saw pulled of the Sequel Trilogy Characters was a heavier Metal card.

So there could be some concern that folks would weigh boxes and sell the light ones.

Just a thought.

Also something to keep in mind if you're buying single boxes on the 'bay, folks.

[machine74]

Could be, I suppose--hoping they get back to me today. Otherwise I guess I'll try blowout.

[exospheer]

I did about a case and 2 boxes.

Pulled a Hayden, Mace, Emperor Trio auto, a Mark Hamill Chrome Black auto, a Qui Gon Jedi Knight Superfractor, and a Chewbecca Civilized age. Have some other hits also. This product is not bad, only one truly "bad" box out of my 8.

[machine74]

Originally Posted by exospheer

I did about a case and 2 boxes.



Pulled a Hayden, Mace, Emperor Trio auto, a Mark Hamill Chrome Black auto, a Qui Gon Jedi Knight Superfractor, and a Chewbecca Civilized age. Have some other hits also. This product is not bad, only one truly "bad" box out of my 8.

You are very lucky from all reports!

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[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by exospheer

I did about a case and 2 boxes.

Pulled a Hayden, Mace, Emperor Trio auto, a Mark Hamill Chrome Black auto, a Qui Gon Jedi Knight Superfractor, and a Chewbecca Civilized age. Have some other hits also. This product is not bad, only one truly "bad" box out of my 8.

Not gonna lie, I'd say a product was great if I got boxes like that, but you should recognize that you are by far the exception.

[Jaysabz]

Originally Posted by exospheer

I did about a case and 2 boxes.

Pulled a Hayden, Mace, Emperor Trio auto, a Mark Hamill Chrome Black auto, a Qui Gon Jedi Knight Superfractor, and a Chewbecca Civilized age. Have some other hits also. This product is not bad, only one truly "bad" box out of my 8.

I'd say you did well, but that your experience seems not to be the norm based on other breaks seen.

Congrats on your hits from your "about a case and 2 boxes."

That made me smile for some reason. I was going to say - is "about a case and 2 boxes" 10 boxes, 12 boxes, but then you said "out of my 8."

So, by my math, that'd be 1 case and 2 boxes. Not "about" anything.

[Greedo]

A product like this really needed case guarantees like what leaf does with pop century. Would’ve stopped the issue of 3 Harrison Ford Sketchagraphs in a single case and would increase the value and collectibility of this set.

“1-2 autos per case from Mark Hamill,Harrison Ford,Ewan McGregor,Hayden Christensen,Samuel L,Natalie Portman,Keira Knightley,Diego Luna,Emilia Clarke,Pedro Pascal,Daisy Ridley,Adam Driver,Oscar Isaac” all the sudden this set by case would be a legitimately great value and most people would walk away happy.

[exospheer]

Originally Posted by Jaysabz

I'd say you did well, but that your experience seems not to be the norm based on other breaks seen.

Congrats on your hits from your "about a case and 2 boxes."

That made me smile for some reason. I was going to say - is "about a case and 2 boxes" 10 boxes, 12 boxes, but then you said "out of my 8."

So, by my math, that'd be 1 case and 2 boxes. Not "about" anything.

Also got in a break, so thats why its "about case and 2 boxes". I realize how lucky I got in my boxes and its not the norm.

[exospheer]

Originally Posted by Greedo

A product like this really needed case guarantees like what leaf does with pop century. Would’ve stopped the issue of 3 Harrison Ford Sketchagraphs in a single case and would increase the value and collectibility of this set.

“1-2 autos per case from Mark Hamill,Harrison Ford,Ewan McGregor,Hayden Christensen,Samuel L,Natalie Portman,Keira Knightley,Diego Luna,Emilia Clarke,Pedro Pascal,Daisy Ridley,Adam Driver,Oscar Isaac” all the sudden this set by case would be a legitimately great value and most people would walk away happy.

Star Wars galaxy had this issue in 2020(?) All the sketches you get in a case were from the same artist. If you see one sketch you loved you could rip the case.

[Jaysabz]

Originally Posted by Greedo

A product like this really needed case guarantees like what leaf does with pop century. Would’ve stopped the issue of 3 Harrison Ford Sketchagraphs in a single case and would increase the value and collectibility of this set.

“1-2 autos per case from Mark Hamill,Harrison Ford,Ewan McGregor,Hayden Christensen,Samuel L,Natalie Portman,Keira Knightley,Diego Luna,Emilia Clarke,Pedro Pascal,Daisy Ridley,Adam Driver,Oscar Isaac” all the sudden this set by case would be a legitimately great value and most people would walk away happy.

Yeah, would be interesting if they put some guarantees in there.

Break the signers into tiers.

Tier A being say Hamill, Ford, Portman, Pascal...
Tier B being say McGregor, Christensen, Jackson, Knightly, Luna, Clarke, Ridley, Driver, Isaac
Tier C the likes of Jancinto, Felicity Jones, Dafne Keene, etc.
Tier D and E being all the Clone Wars actors, cartoon folks, etc.

If they could guarantee one Tier B auto and one Tier C auto-per 6 box case, with Tier A autos falling in one out of every "X" cases (dunno what's reasonable - every 10 cases?) - that'd be pretty cool.

No one would end up w/ their biggest hit being a Matthew Wood on-card Grevious Auto for a $3k case.

But that's likely fantasy land, unfortunately.

[Greedo]

Originally Posted by Jaysabz

Yeah, would be interesting if they put some guarantees in there.

Break the signers into tiers.

Tier A being say Hamill, Ford, Portman, Pascal...
Tier B being say McGregor, Christensen, Jackson, Knightly, Luna, Clarke, Ridley, Driver, Isaac
Tier C the likes of Jancinto, Felicity Jones, Dafne Keene, etc.
Tier D and E being all the Clone Wars actors, cartoon folks, etc.

If they could guarantee one Tier B auto and one Tier C auto-per 6 box case, with Tier A autos falling in one out of every "X" cases (dunno what's reasonable - every 10 cases?) - that'd be pretty cool.

No one would end up w/ their biggest hit being a Matthew Wood on-card Grevious Auto for a $3k case.

But that's likely fantasy land, unfortunately.

IMO a set like smugglers the WORST autos you should be able to get should be Giancarlo,Eman,Lars,Matthew Wood. Autos that aren’t worth a lot but at least are of actual named characters with some value. Also maybe it’s just me but it’s EXTREMELY bizarre that Dave Filoni has no autographs in a set like this. Topps also has Filoni autos because someone pulled an /5 Filoni Chopper Auto in a Costco Super Box.