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Old 02-15-2017, 07:11 PM   #251
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I would love to have Drummond on the Pelicans Him and AD would be awesome together
Drummond and davis together doesnt sound like a great fit to me..

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Drummond and davis together doesnt sound like a great fit to me..

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Both can board and getting lob passes from Jrue or possibly Buddy could be fun. The defense they would bring at the rim would be great. Okafor would be interesting and i hope to god we dont get Lopez.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:34 PM   #253
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Both can board and getting lob passes from Jrue or possibly Buddy could be fun. The defense they would bring at the rim would be great. Okafor would be interesting and i hope to god we dont get Lopez.
They would be taking looks from eachother imo... davis needs to be paired with a nice pg and sg.

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Old 02-15-2017, 09:17 PM   #254
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The Cavs arent getting anyone major, and it has nothing to do with their payroll.

What do they have to offer? They cant trade a pick until 21? Maybe later? Unless they gut their bench they cant upgrade by a lot.

I am sure they will try to find guys on the buy outs and stuff like that but they just cant get the bigger names in this market
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:07 PM   #255
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Chicago has been heavily involved in talks about Okafor, supposedly.

They also have been gauging interest in McDermott, Lopez, and Mirotic.

Taj is always being shopped.

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Old 02-15-2017, 11:09 PM   #256
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Chicago has been heavily involved in talks about Okafor, supposedly.

They also have been gauging interest in McDermott, Lopez, and Mirotic.

Taj is always being shopped.

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Wouldn't mind seeing Mirotic go at all. Never been a huge fan of his.
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:52 PM   #257
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Wouldn't mind seeing Mirotic go at all. Never been a huge fan of his.
I was, until he played for them.
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Old 02-16-2017, 03:06 AM   #258
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I was, until he played for them.
I remember when people here thought he should of won ROY over Wiggins.
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The Cavs arent getting anyone major, and it has nothing to do with their payroll.

What do they have to offer? They cant trade a pick until 21? Maybe later? Unless they gut their bench they cant upgrade by a lot.

I am sure they will try to find guys on the buy outs and stuff like that but they just cant get the bigger names in this market
2021 is correct.

Your point is correct. They'll be looking for buy out type players (like when Joe Johnson was) or a guy that simply doesn't fit their current team, and is a bit older, that doesn't make a fortune (someone like Lou Williams)
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2021 is correct.

Your point is correct. They'll be looking for buy out type players (like when Joe Johnson was) or a guy that simply doesn't fit their current team, and is a bit older, that doesn't make a fortune (someone like Lou Williams)
Lou is probably going to command a first round pick at this point it seems. Popular target for Wizards fans.
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Lou is probably going to command a first round pick at this point it seems. Popular target for Wizards fans.
Wouldn't surprise me. Lou Williams has some value and the Cavs don't have a large enough trade exception. They'd have to trade players.

I'm just saying that's the type of guy the Cavs are going for. Them be willing to "spend" has nothing to do with a guy like Carmelo like some people, most of whom don't understand the salary cap, are saying. It just means plugging someone in to an exception or after a buyout and taking on more tax dollars.
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Lou is probably going to command a first round pick at this point it seems. Popular target for Wizards fans.
Lou is such a frustrating player. Can light it up in a hurry. But he can turn into a pylon on defence and isn't always the best guy in the locker room. In someways i'd love to have him back on the Raptors and in others i'm so glad he's gone. But he could be lightening in a bottle for a teams playoff run.
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Lou is such a frustrating player. Can light it up in a hurry. But he can turn into a pylon on defence and isn't always the best guy in the locker room. In someways i'd love to have him back on the Raptors and in others i'm so glad he's gone. But he could be lightening in a bottle for a teams playoff run.
Yeah he's an amazing scorer. Averaging almost 20 off the bench on terrific shooting. The Wizards bench would be upgraded a ton just by letting him take every single shot

His defense is bad though. I remember the Raptors Wizards series, he was basically unplayable. Which was really bad for the Raptors because Lowry was really hurt that series.
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I remember when people here thought he should of won ROY over Wiggins.
I never thought that, but I felt he showed a lot of promise and was going to be a big part of the team, moving forward. I honestly felt he was going to be the starting 3 eventually, with Jimmy moved to the 2, or he could play the 4, too.

I thought this guy was going to be...Dirk. A poor man's Dirk. lol

He has not made one single improvement since he came into the league. He's wildly inconsistent, is bad defensively, looks lost often, and is downright painful to watch sometimes. Sucks, because I really like the guy.

Oh, well. There's always Doug.

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Jeff Green and DJ Augustin for Reggie Jackson and fillers is being discussed. As long as SVG doesn't persuade Hennigan to give up a pick, I'm good with that move.
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Peter Vescey is reporting the Pacers are trying to acquire Brook Lopez from Brooklyn. The rumored offer would be Al Jefferson, Rodney Stuckey and the Pacers 1st round pick in 2017 for Lopez.

If they could pull that off, it would lead to some pretty interesting lineups for the Pacers.

C - Brook Lopez
PF - Myles Turner
SF - Thaddeus Young
SG - Paul George
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Peter Vescey is reporting the Pacers are trying to acquire Brook Lopez from Brooklyn. The rumored offer would be Al Jefferson, Rodney Stuckey and the Pacers 1st round pick in 2017 for Lopez.

If they could pull that off, it would lead to some pretty interesting lineups for the Pacers.

C - Brook Lopez
PF - Myles Turner
SF - Thaddeus Young
SG - Paul George
PG - Jeff Teague
If I am the Nets i'd do it. You MIGHT be able to get a better offer elsewhere but I think they'd want another 1st round pick. Jefferson is still capable of producing Lopez numbers.
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Peter Vescey is reporting the Pacers are trying to acquire Brook Lopez from Brooklyn. The rumored offer would be Al Jefferson, Rodney Stuckey and the Pacers 1st round pick in 2017 for Lopez.

If they could pull that off, it would lead to some pretty interesting lineups for the Pacers.

C - Brook Lopez
PF - Myles Turner
SF - Thaddeus Young
SG - Paul George
PG - Jeff Teague
I'm not sure Lopez and Turner would see a lot of time on the floor together. You're either saying Turner isn't a starter(he is) or you're getting some really expensive(22M) depth in Lopez.
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I'm not sure Lopez and Turner would see a lot of time on the floor together. You're either saying Turner isn't a starter(he is) or you're getting some really expensive(22M) depth in Lopez.
I think they would slide Turner to the 4. He plays more of a stretch 4 game on offense, then on defense you've got 2 guys who can protect the rim.

Interesting tidbit is Lopez's contract expires at the same time as Paul George. It lets PG know you're trying to get him some help, and if it doesn't work it frees up a lot of cap space after 2018 to re-sign PG and bring in another player. Any trade the Pacers make (or attempt to make) right now is to keep PG happy.
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If I am the Nets i'd do it. You MIGHT be able to get a better offer elsewhere but I think they'd want another 1st round pick. Jefferson is still capable of producing Lopez numbers.
Jefferson has been pretty good offensively and could have pretty solid numbers with extended minutes, but his defense is terrible. That would be the biggest drop off from Lopez. To be clear, Lopez is still way better offensively than Jefferson (at this stage of his career), but Jefferson would put up respectable offensive numbers with Brooklyn.
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Peter Vescey is reporting the Pacers are trying to acquire Brook Lopez from Brooklyn. The rumored offer would be Al Jefferson, Rodney Stuckey and the Pacers 1st round pick in 2017 for Lopez.

If they could pull that off, it would lead to some pretty interesting lineups for the Pacers.

C - Brook Lopez
PF - Myles Turner
SF - Thaddeus Young
SG - Paul George
PG - Jeff Teague
I think that would be a great deal for the Pacers. Kinda surprised that Nets are not pushing for an extra asset even if it's a small one (Young, 2nd rounder)
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No idea if Houston would trade him, or what they would want in return, but I'd love to see the Pacers go after Montrezl Harrell. They really need an energy guy at PF. You could even slot him in at the starting 4 spot, then slide Thad to the 3 and PG to the 2.
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Kyrie also missed like the first 4 months of the season last year. Love is not much, if any better on D than Kyrie. Both have improved though. Love is solid for the team now don't get me wrong. But Kyrie is far more important to winning than Love. I would keep Kyrie over Love all day. Kyrie is also clutch when it counts, whereas Love tends to fall off in the post season.

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Which is why I cited WS/48, rather than WS. WS/48 calculates win shares per 48 minutes played, thus negating the games he missed.

Kyrie is clutch, but there is some statistical questioning on whether being "clutch" is actually a thing, or if it's pure luck. I don't know where I fall on that argument.

Kyrie has not improved on defense. He's playing much better on offense than last year, but same old story on defense.
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