Optic or Prizm??? - Page 11

Prenticles · 01-01-2017, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nrm1977

While Optic does remind me of Chrome, the price of $100 a box is a complete ripoff (Prizm at its current price is too). Topps Chrome was around $60-70 at release almost every year. No way Optic is worth $100 a box.

I wouldn't say Optic is loaded unless you hit a Wentz, Dak, Zeke auto. More than likely you're going to get a $3.00 no name auto.

Back on topic, I do like the design of Optic and will eventually buy a set on ebay. Let me add, you have to be insane to buy Prizm at $140+ a box or Optic at $110 a box, 1 auto LOL.

The underlined is every product, ever (even Topps)

blackbears86 · 01-01-2017, 07:00 PM

I'm glad people are loving this product but for $95+++ per box and contenders coming out this week, I will be happy to let someone else feel the pain and pick up singles on ebay.

deltapi1049 · 01-01-2017, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by No1CavsFan

I'm going to be honest,

Optic is not only IMO the product of the year, but arguably the greatest football product Panini has ever made.

The stuff is loaded

Wow, I dont think I have laughed this hard about a message board review in a long time.

I honestly dont know how people are so bonkers over this product, the rated rookie photos are so terrible that it literally ruins what would have been a great on card set.

I dont care if it was a Dak auto per box, this would still be a freaking joke. Look past the players, look past the retro feel. Those photos. THE PHOTOS.

ThoseBackPages · 01-01-2017, 08:44 PM

"I dont care if it was a Dak auto per box"

Not going to lie, if this were the case, i'd buy Hobby! LOL

ninjacookies · 01-01-2017, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by deltapi1049

Wow, I dont think I have laughed this hard about a message board review in a long time.

I honestly dont know how people are so bonkers over this product, the rated rookie photos are so terrible that it literally ruins what would have been a great on card set.

I dont care if it was a Dak auto per box, this would still be a freaking joke. Look past the players, look past the retro feel. Those photos. THE PHOTOS.

I think it's more a function of people really really really wanting something new to love out of Panini. Like really really really really.

deltapi1049 · 01-01-2017, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I think it's more a function of people really really really wanting something new to love out of Panini. Like really really really really.

They are walking in the desert and so thirsty that they start drinking the sand or whatever.

blackbears86 · 01-01-2017, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by deltapi1049

They are walking in the desert and so thirsty that they start drinking the sand or whatever.

If they made the rated rookie auto's like the Tyreek Hill auto I would go bonkers over this.............unfortunately, they did not....

Carrbeaz · 01-01-2017, 10:16 PM

On the flip side, quite a few people do seem upset that Optic did well despite their negative prognostications.

ThoseBackPages · 01-01-2017, 10:17 PM

Hoping my retail arrives tomorrow !

GrangerCollectr · 01-01-2017, 10:25 PM

Surprising to see so many people hate on one of the first football products that many of us have bought in a while (I've been all baseball this year until Optic). Zeke and Dak are bringing some of the old school football collectors back to the hobby and throw the nostalgia of the Donruss look for us older folks and you have an instant hit.

Like it or not this is a good thing for the football card hobby. I haven't seen this many people busting football product since....well....topps chrome and it will carry on over to Contenders. I give Panini one of it's first A+ since taking over football for Topps.

The_Reverend · 01-01-2017, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Carrbeaz

On the flip side, quite a few people do seem upset that Optic did well despite their negative prognostications.

I cannot say I was negative, but I think the prizm color refractors have a cleaner look. The holo and Carolina blue parallels look too. I have alike and only when you see the CB /50 do you know you have something different. Everyone loves the Tyreek autombeing in Optic, but it is a sticker, just like prizm. On card autos are always preferred, so optic got that right. Overall I still prefer prizm, but I have purchased both.

nrm1977 · 01-01-2017, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xXdirtyjoeXx

The average is one on-card autograph per box of Optic. Topps Chrome didn't do that and it was lucky to get 2-3 on-card autos per case. You are getting at least 10-12 per case of Optic. To me the price point makes it worth it.

Huh? Topps Chrome had on card auto's and stickers just like Optic. You see the sticker auto's in optic right?

xXdirtyjoeXx · 01-02-2017, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by nrm1977

Huh? Topps Chrome had on card auto's and stickers just like Optic. You see the sticker auto's in optic right?

Yes, but most of those sticker autographs count as extra hits. I think maybe one box in my case had a sticker auto as the main hit (Eli Apple Blue Refractor Auto). Even the Hot Boxes have one On-Card hit in them. You get 10-12 On Card autographs per case. I have never seen a 12 box case of Topps Chrome that did not have a couple sticker autographs in as the main hit.

ThoseBackPages · 01-02-2017, 12:06 PM

damnit. looks like USPS was totally off yesterday, and my retail didnt crawl at all. Due tomorrow

deltapi1049 · 01-02-2017, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbears86

If they made the rated rookie auto's like the Tyreek Hill auto I would go bonkers over this.............unfortunately, they did not....

That would change my perception of this set. No idea why they chose to make the inserts from Donruss into the main hit, considering how stupid the pictures look.

I mean, look at Kenyan Drake.

DO THE HUSTLE!

Dbacksbaseball · 01-02-2017, 04:08 PM

With being off today I made trips to both my LCS that are normally about a day or two behind on markups. LCS 1, 10 minutes from home went from 79.99 to 109.99 lol. LCS 2 45 minutes away had gone from 65 to 99 since Friday. I was in for a shock because when I clicked up Blowouts "This just in" it had it marked at $75/box.

Missed the boat on this one with the holidays and not being into much football ripping since 2014. Congrats to those that got in. Anyone ripping at anything over $90, you may be slightly insane......but good luck!

Prenticles · 01-02-2017, 04:36 PM

What about Proptic? Prizim and Optic.

Oh wait, that is writing Prizim and Optic on opposite sides of a dummy card

phil · 01-02-2017, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Prenticles

What about Proptic? Prizim and Optic.

Oh wait, that is writing Prizim and Optic on opposite sides of a dummy card

Optizm!

majestik101 · 01-02-2017, 05:30 PM

Just add a P and an O in front of Optic.

ThoseBackPages · 01-03-2017, 09:53 PM

Ok, how can anyone say Optic cards look better then Prizm?

Panini totally failed with not putting full etching on Optics

Morgoth · 01-03-2017, 10:06 PM

I like the photos and don't care about full etching, this is Chrome not Finest and it looks fine to me. You don't have to hate Optic to like Prizm or vice versa

TheVolta · 01-03-2017, 10:12 PM

You definitely could argue that Optic is the new Topps Chrome simply because it has a non chrome version and Prizm doesn't. Even so, the photos for the rated rookies are simply too up close and personal. I can't remember Topps chrome ever having photos THAT close up.

HBMC · 01-03-2017, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVolta

You definitely could argue that Optic is the new Topps Chrome simply because it has a non chrome version and Prizm doesn't. Even so, the photos for the rated rookies are simply too up close and personal. I can't remember Topps chrome ever having photos THAT close up.

2010 had a few, but yes, it is very 1980's-ish for sure.

DigsUT · 01-04-2017, 12:54 AM

Personally, I love the retro look that Panini is doing with Optic. Rated Rookies with the 1987 Donruss look and the standard rookies with the 1990 style. I hope they continue this trend in the future.

In regards to the lack of action shots in Optic, have you ever seen 1987 Donruss baseball? Damn near every card is a portrait picture of the player in an empty stadium. I think it was a nice homage to a "vintage" card design.

mma138 · 01-04-2017, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by deltapi1049

That would change my perception of this set. No idea why they chose to make the inserts from Donruss into the main hit, considering how stupid the pictures look.

I mean, look at Kenyan Drake.

DO THE HUSTLE!

I agree , that particular pose is bad . but a lot of the other ones are perfectly fine .

01-01-2017, 08:44 PM	#254
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01-01-2017, 10:16 PM	#258
Carrbeaz Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 8,808	On the flip side, quite a few people do seem upset that Optic did well despite their negative prognostications. __________________ If you ask me what is the least I will take, then I am going to respond with, "What is the most you are willing to pay?"

01-01-2017, 10:17 PM	#259
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,863 ThoseBackPages	Hoping my retail arrives tomorrow ! __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

01-01-2017, 10:25 PM	#260
GrangerCollectr Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,374 millercrows millercrows31	Surprising to see so many people hate on one of the first football products that many of us have bought in a while (I've been all baseball this year until Optic). Zeke and Dak are bringing some of the old school football collectors back to the hobby and throw the nostalgia of the Donruss look for us older folks and you have an instant hit. Like it or not this is a good thing for the football card hobby. I haven't seen this many people busting football product since....well....topps chrome and it will carry on over to Contenders. I give Panini one of it's first A+ since taking over football for Topps. __________________ *"If you're not having fun, you're probably doing it wrong"* Instagram - indy_card_collector

01-02-2017, 12:06 PM	#264
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,863 ThoseBackPages	damnit. looks like USPS was totally off yesterday, and my retail didnt crawl at all. Due tomorrow __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

01-01-2017, 07:00 PM	#252
blackbears86 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: maine Posts: 17,130 blackbears86	I'm glad people are loving this product but for $95+++ per box and contenders coming out this week, I will be happy to let someone else feel the pain and pick up singles on ebay.

01-02-2017, 04:08 PM	#266
Dbacksbaseball Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 10,007	With being off today I made trips to both my LCS that are normally about a day or two behind on markups. LCS 1, 10 minutes from home went from 79.99 to 109.99 lol. LCS 2 45 minutes away had gone from 65 to 99 since Friday. I was in for a shock because when I clicked up Blowouts "This just in" it had it marked at $75/box. Missed the boat on this one with the holidays and not being into much football ripping since 2014. Congrats to those that got in. Anyone ripping at anything over $90, you may be slightly insane......but good luck! __________________ Buying Chase Utley and Jimmy Rollins Autos and Rare RC's Buying Syracuse Active Football/Basketball Alumni

01-02-2017, 04:36 PM	#267
Prenticles Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Somewhere where you can get free shipping to the Continental US Posts: 1,513	What about Proptic? Prizim and Optic. Oh wait, that is writing Prizim and Optic on opposite sides of a dummy card

01-02-2017, 05:30 PM	#269
majestik101 Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Socially Distanced Posts: 43,384 majestik101	Just add a P and an O in front of Optic. __________________ "Watson alone sells for over $20" https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1182760

01-03-2017, 09:53 PM	#270
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,863 ThoseBackPages	Ok, how can anyone say Optic cards look better then Prizm? Panini totally failed with not putting full etching on Optics __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

01-03-2017, 10:06 PM	#271
Morgoth Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,924	I like the photos and don't care about full etching, this is Chrome not Finest and it looks fine to me. You don't have to hate Optic to like Prizm or vice versa

01-03-2017, 10:12 PM	#272
TheVolta Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 4,976	You definitely could argue that Optic is the new Topps Chrome simply because it has a non chrome version and Prizm doesn't. Even so, the photos for the rated rookies are simply too up close and personal. I can't remember Topps chrome ever having photos THAT close up. __________________ NO STICKERS! Cuts > Stickers… even if they’re alive

01-04-2017, 12:54 AM	#274
DigsUT Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pflugerville, TX Posts: 4,552 djdigsut	Personally, I love the retro look that Panini is doing with Optic. Rated Rookies with the 1987 Donruss look and the standard rookies with the 1990 style. I hope they continue this trend in the future. In regards to the lack of action shots in Optic, have you ever seen 1987 Donruss baseball? Damn near every card is a portrait picture of the player in an empty stadium. I think it was a nice homage to a "vintage" card design.