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Old 03-29-2022, 08:44 AM   #27351
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I also like long-running insert series, like Crusades, which can you believe is already 5 years deep for Mahomes. When its all said and done, there could be insert series with 10-15 years of editions, if Panini is still in the creative loop somehow.

Other inserts:

-- Airborne has 3 Mahomes cards, 2019 - 21
-- Star Status has 3 Mahomes cards, 2019 - 21
-- Heroes, 2020 - 21

These are longer-term, collection plays; the value really comes after accumulating all the editions over time.
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Old 03-29-2022, 10:15 AM   #27352
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I'd go with the 2020 Luminance shortprints for my sleeper.
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Old 03-29-2022, 10:53 AM   #27353
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I am a sucker for anything Stained Glass. On top of that I enjoy the following:

Marvels
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Old 03-29-2022, 03:37 PM   #27354
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Personally I’m very bullish on on-card rookie autos which haven’t necessarily seen any stand-out outsized growth compared to his other RCs. Given his non-rookie auto is much worse I feel like that adds another degree of rarity that other RCs don’t have.

Also any year team-colored parallels (although that isn’t necessarily “undiscovered”).


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Old 03-29-2022, 08:58 PM   #27355
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Should be a pretty large Patty mail day tomorrow!
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Old 03-29-2022, 09:13 PM   #27356
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I'd go with the 2020 Luminance shortprints for my sleeper.
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Rising

Yup…though wasn’t crazy about the jersey swap. Which one are you referring to for“Rising”? You taking about Phoenix Rookie Rising?




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Old 03-29-2022, 09:25 PM   #27357
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I also like long-running insert series, like Crusades, which can you believe is already 5 years deep for Mahomes. When its all said and done, there could be insert series with 10-15 years of editions, if Panini is still in the creative loop somehow.

Other inserts:

-- Airborne has 3 Mahomes cards, 2019 - 21
-- Star Status has 3 Mahomes cards, 2019 - 21
-- Heroes, 2020 - 21

These are longer-term, collection plays; the value really comes after accumulating all the editions over time.

Crusades are one of my favorite parallels, given its longevity as an insert series. Been focused on assembling the sequential time series for several of the parallels. Have completed the Reds so far, and getting close on another. 2017 is my favorite design thus far




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Old 03-29-2022, 09:27 PM   #27358
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Yup…though wasn’t crazy about the jersey swap. Which one are you referring to for“Rising”? You taking about Phoenix Rookie Rising?




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My bad. It was the rookies in the Rising subset in 2020 Luminance.

These ones -
https://www.ebay.com/itm/29488653414...IAAOSw5a1iGoHq
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Old 03-29-2022, 09:30 PM   #27359
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My bad. It was the rookies in the Rising subset in 2020 Luminance.

These ones -
https://www.ebay.com/itm/29488653414...IAAOSw5a1iGoHq

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Old 03-30-2022, 10:52 AM   #27360
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Pretty large Patty mail. Had my eye on this card for the last few months. Easily his 2nd best gold with a lot of room imo.

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Old 03-30-2022, 10:57 AM   #27361
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Pretty large Patty mail. Had my eye on this card for the last few months. Easily his 2nd best gold with a lot of room imo. Sorry for the crap photo

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Old 03-30-2022, 11:11 AM   #27362
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Did you take that pic from the moon?

Nice card!
You have to click on it for some reason now lol. Gladly will take photo insertion help if anyone can fix it
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Old 03-30-2022, 05:16 PM   #27363
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Pretty large Patty mail. Had my eye on this card for the last few months. Easily his 2nd best gold with a lot of room imo.

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Woah, that's a big one. Nice pickup!
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Old 03-30-2022, 05:19 PM   #27364
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Pretty large Patty mail. Had my eye on this card for the last few months. Easily his 2nd best gold with a lot of room imo.

Congrats arod. That’s a monster


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Old 03-30-2022, 06:35 PM   #27365
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Old 03-30-2022, 07:03 PM   #27366
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Pretty large Patty mail. Had my eye on this card for the last few months. Easily his 2nd best gold with a lot of room imo.

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Old 04-04-2022, 08:13 PM   #27367
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Kenny G just spoke blasphemy (in his valutainment video)
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Old 04-04-2022, 10:23 PM   #27369
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Says he’d rather invest in Rodgers over Patty. Shame shame
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Old 04-04-2022, 10:35 PM   #27370
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Says he’d rather invest in Rodgers over Patty. Shame shame
So you’re telling me he has some Rodgers to sell.

Its always a grift with that guy.
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Old 04-05-2022, 12:20 AM   #27372
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I don't really listen to any other YT channel as I feel most don't know what they are talking about, especially if they are "new." But for guys like Kenny G, I'll listen especially with podcasts/channels I listen to regularly that aren't sports card focused like PBD.

His Patty/Arod take is at the end.

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Old 04-05-2022, 10:52 AM   #27373
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I don't really listen to any other YT channel as I feel most don't know what they are talking about, especially if they are "new." But for guys like Kenny G, I'll listen especially with podcasts/channels I listen to regularly that aren't sports card focused like PBD.

His Patty/Arod take is at the end.

Interesting... his points:
1. "Aaron Rodgers prices dropped after his Covid controversy". This is wrong, and Cardladder is able to prove that Rodgers cards are at an all time high right now. They did not drop during the AntiVax thing, and actually rose at the beginning of November.

2. "Aaron Rodgers is a Packer and the Packer lore will carry him". Can't refute this, but Mahomes is a Chief, and they have history and a large fan base too.

3. "Aaron Rodgers is in the Holy Trinity of NFL QBs. Brady, Montana, Rodgers". I don't buy this. I'd say Manning (who is also liked off the field) is already > Rodgers, and the fact that Mahomes has been to more Super Bowls than Rodgers bodes well for him.

Take it with a grain of salt. Ken is maybe the greatest salesman in the card business. But he's not an analyst, he didn't make his fortune from being a collector himself. He's there to sell you something at every turn. Maybe he ends up being right here, who knows, but I'm still waiting for the 1989 Griffey Topps Traded rookies to make us all rich like he promised us in the 90's on Shop at Home.
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Old 04-05-2022, 01:11 PM   #27374
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Interesting... his points:
1. "Aaron Rodgers prices dropped after his Covid controversy". This is wrong, and Cardladder is able to prove that Rodgers cards are at an all time high right now. They did not drop during the AntiVax thing, and actually rose at the beginning of November.

2. "Aaron Rodgers is a Packer and the Packer lore will carry him". Can't refute this, but Mahomes is a Chief, and they have history and a large fan base too.

3. "Aaron Rodgers is in the Holy Trinity of NFL QBs. Brady, Montana, Rodgers". I don't buy this. I'd say Manning (who is also liked off the field) is already > Rodgers, and the fact that Mahomes has been to more Super Bowls than Rodgers bodes well for him.

Take it with a grain of salt. Ken is maybe the greatest salesman in the card business. But he's not an analyst, he didn't make his fortune from being a collector himself. He's there to sell you something at every turn. Maybe he ends up being right here, who knows, but I'm still waiting for the 1989 Griffey Topps Traded rookies to make us all rich like he promised us in the 90's on Shop at Home.
Aaron Rodgers couldn't even get Davante Adams to stay with him and the Packers couldn't even compete with an extremely modest offer to bring in another Devante. Not sure how anyone could be super hyped on someone who will at best have a great regular season, again.

Believe the last 10 SB champion QBs were paid 12% of the cap max and that was Brady, Rodgers coming in at 30% this year.

Still buying some A-rod simply because he's in the NFC, full disclosure.
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Old 04-06-2022, 09:57 AM   #27375
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Wow, Ken is way off with that take. That's not to say his final conclusion won't be right in the long run, but his reasons are not valid. Also, Favre being a Packer has done nothing for his card prices.

Love you Kenny, but you're wrong on this one.
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