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Jsturino · 01-05-2024, 03:07 PM

Best case scenario is we trade for Luzardo/Cease + add Shota. That way we have serious depth and can move Houck + Crawford to the pen. Not an elite rotation but a nice blend of young upside arms and innings eaters.

rms13 · 01-06-2024, 11:18 AM

According to the Globe they are shopping Jansen and Yoshida

rms13 · 01-06-2024, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsturino

Best case scenario is we trade for Luzardo/Cease + add Shota. That way we have serious depth and can move Houck + Crawford to the pen. Not an elite rotation but a nice blend of young upside arms and innings eaters.

I'd be happy going into the season with Houck and Crawford as 4/5 starters. I've seen enough to think they are fine as back end rotation on a playoff team. Apparently Lou Merloni thinks Crawford could be the closer once Jansen is traded. Personally I'd try Whitlock as closer first and hope he can stay healthy. It sounds like they are interested in Luzardo but that will probably cost Mayer or Anthony and it sounds like they are prepared to trade one or both if they can get young pitching that is under control for cheaper contracts.

awz50 · 01-06-2024, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rms13

According to the Globe they are shopping Jansen and Yoshida

Yeah I saw that, the write up on Yoshi is b everything we have talked about in this thread that basically he has little value right now especially with the back end of that contract.

JimEd14 · 01-06-2024, 01:57 PM

Quick aside ...

WHEW!

Seeing this as a (nearly?) full set is cool.

rms13 · 01-06-2024, 02:29 PM

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Yeah I saw that, the write up on Yoshi is b everything we have talked about in this thread that basically he has little value right now especially with the back end of that contract.

I thought Sale had no value with his contract and injury history. They will probably have to eat some of the Yoshida contract to trade him but they seem willing to do that. I'd rather they trade Yoshi then Duran who I heard they were shopping earlier in the office season. But Duran might be a good sell high candidate right now.

rms13 · 01-09-2024, 02:18 PM

Sox apparently very aggressively pursuing Jorge Soler. Not very exciting but he fits the Renfroe/Duvall spot and could provide some good power in Fenway

rms13 · 01-10-2024, 01:44 AM

Sox are one of Mike Clevinger's preferred destinations. He has a lot of baggage but he'd probably be the #1 in their rotation

awz50 · 01-10-2024, 10:21 AM

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Sox are one of Mike Clevinger's preferred destinations. He has a lot of baggage but he'd probably be the #1 in their rotation

Probably Giolito still, which in it self is sad

awz50 · 01-10-2024, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rms13

Sox apparently very aggressively pursuing Jorge Soler. Not very exciting but he fits the Renfroe/Duvall spot and could provide some good power in Fenway

Solar would be great and a MUCH better option then renfroe or duvall

rms13 · 01-10-2024, 11:20 AM

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Solar would be great and a MUCH better option then renfroe or duvall

Probably not as good of a defender as Duvall but more durable. If he stays healthy he could probably have a chance at 40-50 HR playing home games in Fenway. I don't think he makes them a playoff team but he would make the season more enjoyable. Casas-Soler-Devers in the lineup would be fun.

sauceboy · 01-10-2024, 01:42 PM

Assuming Marcelo Mayer is only a year or two away, I'd like to see Boston trade Story sooner than later. They should get what they can for Jansen now, too.

If they trade Yoshida, I could see that haunting the team big time down the line. Not only could I see Masa bouncing back in a major way this season but why would any Japanese player want to sign with a team that didn't give one of their own a fair chance?

rms13 · 01-10-2024, 02:40 PM

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Assuming Marcelo Mayer is only a year or two away, I'd like to see Boston trade Story sooner than later. They should get what they can for Jansen now, too.

If they trade Yoshida, I could see that haunting the team big time down the line. Not only could I see Masa bouncing back in a major way this season but why would any Japanese player want to sign with a team that didn't give one of their own a fair chance?

It sounds like they are actively shopping Jansen, Story and Yoshida. And it sounds like they are open to moving Mayer and Anthony for young controllable pitching. I also heard they were actively shopping Duran but that may have changed.

As for Japanese players. They have missed on all of them this off season already but the Sox do have a track record with Daisuke, Okajima, Uhera etc so I don't think trading Yoshi will effect anything. At the end of the day it's about money and this team seems like they aren't willing to spend any in the near future so they won't get any top free agents. It seems like they are ready to do a full rebuild right now

rms13 · 01-11-2024, 05:39 PM

Sox announced they are not doing the Winter Weekend Town Hall this year. Ownership and front office doesn't want to get booed again

awz50 · 01-13-2024, 10:58 AM

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Sox announced they are not doing the Winter Weekend Town Hall this year. Ownership and front office doesn't want to get booed again

Yeah saw that... huge cop out

Bosoxfan5990 · 01-13-2024, 11:40 AM

LOL of course they aren't. Losers.

sauceboy · 01-20-2024, 02:45 PM

This team is going to be the death of me. I think they need to be willing to shell out anyone to get Dylan Cease at this point.

rms13 · 01-20-2024, 03:32 PM

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This team is going to be the death of me. I think they need to be willing to shell out anyone to get Dylan Cease at this point.

Don't hold your breath. Sam Kennedy said yesterday that the Sox payroll for 2024 will be lower then 2023. He was also talking about how fans will go to the game for the Fenway experience regardless of the team. It's pretty clear they have no intention of trying to win this year

JimEd14 · 01-20-2024, 03:51 PM

On a happier note, fun chat with Papi, Pedro and Tek this morning on twitter, HERE.

Paid tribute to Wakes. Reminisced about 2004 ... 20 year anniversary, damn.

Tibbs2004 · 01-21-2024, 11:48 AM

This is going to be another tough year. Breslow is not off to the best start here!

rms13 · 01-21-2024, 12:29 PM

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This is going to be another tough year. Breslow is not off to the best start here!

He is hamstrung by the same ownership as Bloom. There is only so much he can do if the ownership is telling him to cut payroll

seanbros55 · 01-21-2024, 04:21 PM

Sell the damn team, John.

rms13 · 01-22-2024, 12:48 AM

It sounds like the rotation is going to be Giolito, Bello and then some combination of Houck, Whitlock, Cooper Criswell, Pivetta and Crawford. So basically the same plan as last year.

Tibbs2004 · 01-22-2024, 11:46 PM

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It sounds like the rotation is going to be Giolito, Bello and then some combination of Houck, Whitlock, Cooper Criswell, Pivetta and Crawford. So basically the same plan as last year.

So hopefully we win 80 games, pathetic! At least the fans gave it to ownership over winter weekend!

rms13 · 01-23-2024, 11:01 AM

Paxton going to Dodgers for 1 years $12 million. So even he's too expensive to bring back, although I'm sure the Sox would have to offer more then the Dodgers.

01-06-2024, 01:57 PM	#26930
JimEd14 Member Join Date: Oct 2023 Location: SF, CA Posts: 762	Quick aside ... WHEW! Seeing this as a (nearly?) full set is cool. __________________ Collecting: Mookie Betts, David Ortiz, Pedro Martinez, Dustin Pedroia, Tim Lincecum, Buster Posey, Vlad Sr. IG: sfosoxfan

01-13-2024, 11:40 AM	#26941
Bosoxfan5990 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: MA Posts: 14,783 rossisportscards	LOL of course they aren't. Losers. __________________ X & IG: rossisportcards. Bethel Johnson & A. Vinatieri. "A Goldin Shower of sorrow and regret." -ninjacookies (11/25/24) "never did, never will" - Delta5 (9/25/24)

01-20-2024, 03:51 PM	#26944
JimEd14 Member Join Date: Oct 2023 Location: SF, CA Posts: 762	On a happier note, fun chat with Papi, Pedro and Tek this morning on twitter, HERE. Paid tribute to Wakes. Reminisced about 2004 ... 20 year anniversary, damn. __________________ Collecting: Mookie Betts, David Ortiz, Pedro Martinez, Dustin Pedroia, Tim Lincecum, Buster Posey, Vlad Sr. IG: sfosoxfan

01-05-2024, 03:07 PM	#26926
Jsturino Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 3,131	Best case scenario is we trade for Luzardo/Cease + add Shota. That way we have serious depth and can move Houck + Crawford to the pen. Not an elite rotation but a nice blend of young upside arms and innings eaters.

01-06-2024, 11:18 AM	#26927
rms13 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 7,040	According to the Globe they are shopping Jansen and Yoshida

01-09-2024, 02:18 PM	#26932
rms13 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 7,040	Sox apparently very aggressively pursuing Jorge Soler. Not very exciting but he fits the Renfroe/Duvall spot and could provide some good power in Fenway

01-10-2024, 01:44 AM	#26933
rms13 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 7,040	Sox are one of Mike Clevinger's preferred destinations. He has a lot of baggage but he'd probably be the #1 in their rotation

01-10-2024, 01:42 PM	#26937
sauceboy Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Posts: 557 sauceboy	Assuming Marcelo Mayer is only a year or two away, I'd like to see Boston trade Story sooner than later. They should get what they can for Jansen now, too. If they trade Yoshida, I could see that haunting the team big time down the line. Not only could I see Masa bouncing back in a major way this season but why would any Japanese player want to sign with a team that didn't give one of their own a fair chance?

01-11-2024, 05:39 PM	#26939
rms13 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 7,040	Sox announced they are not doing the Winter Weekend Town Hall this year. Ownership and front office doesn't want to get booed again

01-20-2024, 02:45 PM	#26942
sauceboy Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Posts: 557 sauceboy	This team is going to be the death of me. I think they need to be willing to shell out anyone to get Dylan Cease at this point.

01-21-2024, 11:48 AM	#26945
Tibbs2004 Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Posts: 349	This is going to be another tough year. Breslow is not off to the best start here!

01-21-2024, 04:21 PM	#26947
seanbros55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: From the 508 to the 707 Posts: 5,412	Sell the damn team, John.

01-22-2024, 12:48 AM	#26948
rms13 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 7,040	It sounds like the rotation is going to be Giolito, Bello and then some combination of Houck, Whitlock, Cooper Criswell, Pivetta and Crawford. So basically the same plan as last year.

01-23-2024, 11:01 AM	#26950
rms13 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 7,040	Paxton going to Dodgers for 1 years $12 million. So even he's too expensive to bring back, although I'm sure the Sox would have to offer more then the Dodgers.