HGA grading

[kobebeast2020]

I got my 10 card sub back after 4 months, cracked 6 cards that got at least two 10 subgrades and sent them to PSA ... other 4 are on auction and I'll take what I can get.

[salthill]

Originally Posted by kobebeast2020

I got my 10 card sub back after 4 months, cracked 6 cards that got at least two 10 subgrades and sent them to PSA ... other 4 are on auction and I'll take what I can get.

You’re using HSA as a pre-screening service for potential PSA submissions?

[kobebeast2020]

Originally Posted by salthill

You’re using HSA as a pre-screening service for potential PSA submissions?

No ... When I sent the cards 4 months ago to hga I was a fan. I've lost all the confidence in them as a company and the cards don't sell.

[300baud]

Originally Posted by kobebeast2020

I got my 10 card sub back after 4 months, cracked 6 cards that got at least two 10 subgrades and sent them to PSA ... other 4 are on auction and I'll take what I can get.

Link? I want to see what you're selling.

[kobebeast2020]

Originally Posted by 300baud

Link? I want to see what you're selling.

Go to page 98

[kobebeast2020]

You can search the same name on the bay. I've got LaMelo Donruss choice base HGA 10. Quickley auto 10. Hali auto 9.5 and Wiseman base origins 9.5 oh and Edwards base 9.5

[KhalDrogo]

Some gems from their November 15 post.

AI video up by November 29 - NOPE!

14 to 20 days behind - NOPE!

Start seeing improvements on turnaround by mid to end December - NOPE!

Horizontal slabs ready in 4-6 weeks - DOUBTFUL!

[ThoseBackPages]

more lovely ladies?

[imbluestreak23]

My order was graded this week. Looking forward to getting in hand 2022

[Macswain]

FOR THOSE TRACKING HGA ORDERS:

My 60 business day order that is "8/26 received" is now at 74 business days and only listing as "scanned 2021-11-08."

To me the only two choices for economy grading are HGA and SGC and, for the most part, I like what I have received from both.

That being said, in terms of turnaround, SGC is overperforming on its promises and HGA is underperforming.

[Skunkbush]

Originally Posted by Macswain

FOR THOSE TRACKING HGA ORDERS:

My 60 business day order that is "8/26 received" is now at 74 business days and only listing as "scanned 2021-11-08."

To me the only two choices for economy grading are HGA and SGC and, for the most part, I like what I have received from both.

That being said, in terms of turnaround, SGC is overperforming on its promises and HGA is underperforming.

I'm doing the same with my economy orders. HGA has been a bit more profitable then my SGC orders, but not by much. What has your experience been?

[Macswain]

Originally Posted by Skunkbush

I'm doing the same with my economy orders. HGA has been a bit more profitable then my SGC orders, but not by much. What has your experience been?

Same.

I think SGC hurts itself by grading tougher than PSA whereas when I compare HGA to PSA, the grades seem to be on par. I think all new companies should be striving to grade on par with PSA.

HGA grades are also easier to understand due to subgrades. I've received a few SGC grades that were a couple lower than I expected and were hard to understand.

I like both SGC's black slabs and HGA's label choices and submit cards based on which slab will accentuate the particular card. I do think younger collectors prefer the HGA label and, hence, a better return.

[Skunkbush]

Originally Posted by Macswain

Same.

I think SGC hurts itself by grading tougher than PSA whereas when I compare HGA to PSA, the grades seem to be on par. I think all new companies should be striving to grade on par with PSA.

HGA grades are also easier to understand due to subgrades. I've received a few SGC grades that were a couple lower than I expected and were hard to understand.

I like both SGC's black slabs and HGA's label choices and submit cards based on which slab will accentuate the particular card. I do think younger collectors prefer the HGA label and, hence, a better return.

That's exactly how I sub my cards also. The cards that include alot of color/splash (mostly parallel inserts and the like) I throw in HGA orders and they do real well. I also stick to the Neutral labels and match the color with whatever the colored parallel is. SGC I've been sending more of the base and "investor" centric cards(numbered/sp).

I have a friend that's a big White Sox fan and his PC looks amazing with the SGC tuxedos. For my PC I've been using HGA and am about to display them in a case in the office. On the pool table laid out they look awesome cant wait to see them properly displayed.

[Perfect JF]

Originally Posted by Macswain

FOR THOSE TRACKING HGA ORDERS:

My 60 business day order that is "8/26 received" is now at 74 business days and only listing as "scanned 2021-11-08."

To me the only two choices for economy grading are HGA and SGC and, for the most part, I like what I have received from both.

That being said, in terms of turnaround, SGC is overperforming on its promises and HGA is underperforming.

Mine is 2021-08-11 received and 2021-11-02 scanned. Still not move since .....

For fun, I send a message to HGA to ask what's going on because there tracker say they are at 74days turnaround time and they send me a LONG text that basically say : Your order follows its course ....

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by Macswain

Same.

I think SGC hurts itself by grading tougher than PSA whereas when I compare HGA to PSA, the grades seem to be on par.

You think HGA is on par with PSA?? What??

and you think tough grades is a bad thing?

holy-moley.

[Skunkbush]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

You think HGA is on par with PSA?? What??

and you think tough grades is a bad thing?

holy-moley.

Every crossover I've seen from HGA to PSA ends up being the relative grade. And he has a solid point about SGC. To the known collector a tougher grading scale is better on dictating true value, whereas if you are trying to flip lower end cards you dont want a grading service that grades TOO harshly. Look at the PSA tracker and see how a member recently received a PSA order and 90% of his 75 card order was 9s. If they graded that harshly on a consistent basic they would never have a low end sub again.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Skunkbush

Every crossover I've seen from HGA to PSA ends up being the relative grade. And he has a solid point about SGC. To the known collector a tougher grading scale is better on dictating true value, whereas if you are trying to flip lower end cards you dont want a grading service that grades TOO harshly. Look at the PSA tracker and see how a member recently received a PSA order and 90% of his 75 card order was 9s. If they graded that harshly on a consistent basic they would never have a low end sub again.

90% of the stuff being submitted is ultra modern and fresh out of packs. Most of the stuff is between 9 and 10 for every grading company. So yes, HGA, PSA, and even a drunk at a bar will grade all these cards relatively close. The true test to see if HGA can grade is send in PSA 3, 4, 5, and 6 from older cards. See how well HGA can do then. From most of this type of grading I have seen, HGA has serious problems with their algorithms.

[Skunkbush]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

90% of the stuff being submitted is ultra modern and fresh out of packs. Most of the stuff is between 9 and 10 for every grading company. So yes, HGA, PSA, and even a drunk at a bar will grade all these cards relatively close. The true test to see if HGA can grade is send in PSA 3, 4, 5, and 6 from older cards. See how well HGA can do then. From most of this type of grading I have seen, HGA has serious problems with their algorithms.

For sure. I consider HGA a modern/ultra modern grading company. I dont even consider them for vintage.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by Skunkbush

For sure. I consider HGA a modern/ultra modern grading company. I dont even consider them for vintage.

They are a slab company. Nothing more.

[Cards and 401K]

I thought "AI" is High tech.

[dunkindutchmen]

Originally Posted by Cards and 401K

I thought "AI" is High tech.

Correct. It consists of binoculars taped to Tyler's head. He then proceeds to look at the card very carefully before giving it a 9.0.

[rfgilles]

I take a lot of shots at HGA, mainly based on their false premise of AI grading.

However, I do really like that their pricing is structured on turnaround and not on card value.

It really bothers me that PSA charges based on declared value. It doesn't require any more effort to grade a low numbered parallel compared with a cheaper base version of a card.

Charging grading fees based on card value is an unjust practice in my opinion.

[nera20]

any hga offered to me at shows i will only offer raw price for the card if its not bgs, psa, or sgc i just consider it a special 1 touch case

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by rfgilles

I take a lot of shots at HGA, mainly based on their false premise of AI grading.

However, I do really like that their pricing is structured on turnaround and not on card value.

It really bothers me that PSA charges based on declared value. It doesn't require any more effort to grade a low numbered parallel compared with a cheaper base version of a card.

Charging grading fees based on card value is an unjust practice in my opinion.

It is an insurance issue. PSA guarantees the card in the slab. If it is a fake, PSA will 100% reimburse the person that bought it. Companies that actually authenticates cards need to do this. Would you buy a Hank Aaron rookie in a HGA case? Good luck getting your money back from HGA if you bought a fake $100,000 HGA 9 Aaron.

[kobebeast2020]

Originally Posted by rfgilles

I take a lot of shots at HGA, mainly based on their false premise of AI grading.

However, I do really like that their pricing is structured on turnaround and not on card value.

It really bothers me that PSA charges based on declared value. It doesn't require any more effort to grade a low numbered parallel compared with a cheaper base version of a card.

Charging grading fees based on card value is an unjust practice in my opinion.

as much as I dislike the upcharge from PSA what I don't like even more is a promise of 10, 30, or 60 days which turn into double that. its what your whole premise and promise as a company stood for. I was very excited when they first started and subbed almost 30 cards in total. but I regret it now.

on top of all that with all the backlog they are offering a special 15% discount to add more to the backlog, whuch just isn't cool.