2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[RedSoxFan28]

@realDonaldTrump
Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education. Therefore, I am telling the Treasury Department to re-examine their Tax-Exempt Status...
... and/or Funding, which will be taken away if this Propaganda or Act Against Public Policy continues. Our children must be Educated, not Indoctrinated!

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by free2131

I'm saying that there are reasons outside of just the treatment method that contribute to suicide among transgendered people, and according to the Centre for Suicide Prevention, one contributing factor is being misgendered. Just because A happened and B happened, doesn't mean B was the result of A. It could be in some cases, just like the wrong prescription given to a patient with depression could contribute to their suicide.

It's a lot more complex and way too many things influence the outcomes.

Look, I'm not going to say there isn't a lot of variables that go into this. The only reason I bring up the surgery is because that is literal mutilation of the body which is a clear indication that someone isn't accepting of themselves. The problem is, with your thought process, you aren't trying to attempt to solve the problem. The real problem is the fact that someone isn't able to accept themselves the way they were born. Someone who is a guy who dresses as a girl is able to accept the way they are born but choose to express themselves differently than others. Someone who can not except they have a penis and need to have is surgically removed has a problem accepting their beautiful self. So your solution is to just cut it off. My solution is to help them accept themselves because the only true way you can defeat that depression is by being able to accept yourself the way you are. Cutting off your penis doesn't change the fact that you had a penis and you may never be able to be happy if that's your solution.

[marl1220]

Does Trump have any clue what he has the power to do and not do? Says he'll cut funding to schools if they don't open full time?

Yea, this is a couple days old. Just trying to get this board back on track.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/american-...hool-reopening

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/polit...eck/index.html

[rman112]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

@realDonaldTrump
Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education. Therefore, I am telling the Treasury Department to re-examine their Tax-Exempt Status...
... and/or Funding, which will be taken away if this Propaganda or Act Against Public Policy continues. Our children must be Educated, not Indoctrinated!

What is the issue?

That education has not become about indoctrination?

That de-funding these institutions (in a way).. when their #1 goal is really not education, but rather profit .. is wrong?

[mike1498]

Can someone please explain to me this education indoctrination problem. So yes, when I'm at college, there are quite a few crazy lefties. It's not like the school can tell you how to actually think, they can only give their opinions. So when I walk the streets of Newark and some Bernie nut tells me that we should all be taxed 95% I ask him why I should go to work and can't respond. How is the college responsible that people can't respond to stupid comments? It's not like the media doesn't already do this.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

@realDonaldTrump
Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education. Therefore, I am telling the Treasury Department to re-examine their Tax-Exempt Status...
... and/or Funding, which will be taken away if this Propaganda or Act Against Public Policy continues. Our children must be Educated, not Indoctrinated!

What about this is wrong. I've been on several campuses and can tell you that this is a real thing.

[GoTribe!!!]

Agreed, dont see the issue. Imagine the uproar if a school wouldnt allow a student because they were a liberal.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by GoTribe!!!

Agreed, dont see the issue. Imagine the uproar if a school wouldnt allow a student because they were a liberal.

I still haven't seen anything about the Marquette story being less ridiculous than it seems. And amazingly, they're a catholic school.

[RedSoxFan28]

Assuming everyone in favor of removing the Tax-Exempt Status and/or Funding colleges also agree the same should be done with churches?

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by rman112

I still haven't seen anything about the Marquette story being less ridiculous than it seems. And amazingly, they're a catholic school.

That story is perfect for this conversation. It's disgusting that a school would base admission on a persons political beliefs. This is the world we live in.

[GoTribe!!!]

Originally Posted by rman112

I still haven't seen anything about the Marquette story being less ridiculous than it seems. And amazingly, they're a catholic school.

Ridiculous isnt the word. Downright horrorifying that people think that's acceptable.

[GoTribe!!!]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Assuming everyone in favor of removing the Tax-Exempt Status and/or Funding colleges also agree the same should be done with churches?

Why ? I dont see churches telling their congregation what political party they can and cannot support

[rman112]

Originally Posted by marl1220

That story is perfect for this conversation. It's disgusting that a school would base admission on a persons political beliefs. This is the world we live in.

TheHeel's on the admission's board.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Assuming everyone in favor of removing the Tax-Exempt Status and/or Funding colleges also agree the same should be done with churches?

Do churches discriminate against certain political parties?

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by free2131

Care to back that up with actual scientific studies? Several have proven that the brain chemistry of transgendered people conform to the gender they end up being drawn toward.



Again, how is letting someone THAT IS NOT YOU choose which restroom to use have any affect on your rights (other than making you feel "uncomfortable")? Once the law mandates you pledge allegiance to the LGBTQ+ cause, then you will have a point.

I don't like cancel culture either. I don't think people should fear speaking their minds, even if I don't agree with it. I don't believe that "hate speech" should be illegal (as long as it isn't a call to incite violence or the proverbial fire in a movie theater).



Yes, even after surgery, the suicide rate for transgendered people is way higher than the mean. The suicide rate for people on antidepressants are also higher than the mean. Does than infer that we should stop giving people antidepressants?

You do realize there is more to Gender Dysphoria treatment than surgery, correct?

Not all DNA is created equal, however: males have both mitochondrial DNA AND a Y chromosome, so they can trace both their maternal and paternal ancestry. Females, who have mitochondrial DNA but no Y chromosome, can trace only their maternal ancestry.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by GoTribe!!!

Why ? I dont see churches telling their congregation what political party they can and cannot support

Do schools? I don't remember any teacher in my school saying I couldn't take their class because I'm conservative. I'm not saying they may not like me as much as someone else but I'm sure my priest would have a problem if I told him I was pro choice (which I'm not) but still.

[RedSoxFan28]

Originally Posted by marl1220

Do churches discriminate against certain political parties?

but but they push conservative ideas, they're bad...

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

but but they push conservative ideas, they're bad...

why did you type 'but' twice?

[mike1498]

Honestly people that have a problem with this fairy tale "college indoctrination" have a problem with it because they are a rock and can't defend a point to save their life. I go to college as a conservative and when someone makes a dumb liberal point, I tell them why it's stupid. I know it's a crazy thing for some people.

[trixstar]

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[GoTribe!!!]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Do schools? I don't remember any teacher in my school saying I couldn't take their class because I'm conservative. I'm not saying they may not like me as much as someone else but I'm sure my priest would have a problem if I told him I was pro choice (which I'm not) but still.

It appears some schools do. Maybe you didnt hear about Marquette that was previously mentioned.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Honestly people that have a problem with this fairy tale "college indoctrination" have a problem with it because they are a rock and can't defend a point to save their life. I go to college as a conservative and when someone makes a dumb liberal point, I tell them why it's stupid. I know it's a crazy thing for some people.

I know Grant (calculusdork) has had some good posts on the topic. It's not a fairytale.

Maybe UD school/students/staff are more accepting. That's a good thing. But it's not a fairytale at all.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Assuming everyone in favor of removing the Tax-Exempt Status and/or Funding colleges also agree the same should be done with churches?

Aren’t churches funded by donations? I’m no fan of organized religion, but that seems like it would be an important distinction here. Genuinely asking...

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by GoTribe!!!

It appears ome schools do. Maybe you didnt hear about Marquette that was previously mentioned.

To be fair I did not. I just glanced over and it was one admissions officer who said that. Do you believe that can't happen the other way around?

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by rman112

I know Grant (calculusdork) has had some good posts on the topic. It's not a fairytale.

Maybe UD school/students/staff are more accepting. That's a good thing. But it's not a fairytale at all.

To what degree do you feel it damages my academics? I'm clearly not aware is why I'm asking.