✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[Jeter1020]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Nope, no way, unless the eye appeal of that card is somehow significantly better.

Is bgs not good? A 9.5 is gem mint compared to a psa 9


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[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Would you guys "trade" a PSA 9 for BGS 9.5 true gem of the exact same card? Assume both cards look comparable and it is a non-chrome condition sensitive parallel.

As you guys know, I'm normally not a BGS fan.

Of course. Without hesitation

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Of course. Without hesitation

That was my initial reaction with it being a quad 9.5, but I dislike BGS so much

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Nope, no way, unless the eye appeal of that card is somehow significantly better.

I bought a TG 9.5 and decided to put my PSA 9 up to field offers and immediately got the same amount I bought the TG 9.5 for. Same eye appeal.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

Is bgs not good? A 9.5 is gem mint compared to a psa 9


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It is largely preference (fat, ugly, bgs cases) and performance (psa > bgs).

There are many who enjoy them, and that is fine, too.

To each their own, but I answered from my perspective.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

That was my initial reaction with it being a quad 9.5, but I dislike BGS so much



I bought a TG 9.5 and decided to put my PSA 9 up to field offers and immediately got the same amount I bought the TG 9.5 for. Same eye appeal.

Crack it, sub it, get a 10, sell the 9.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Crack it, sub it, get a 10, sell the 9.

They are pop controlling Sho high end like crazy right now, if they find any reason to give it a 9, they will - no allowance.

You're making me want to keep both now

[Jeter1020]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

It is largely preference (fat, ugly, bgs cases) and performance (psa > bgs).

There are many who enjoy them, and that is fine, too.

To each their own, but I answered from my perspective.

Ah gotcha gotcha. Yeah I get that. I stick to PSA also unless it’s a card I can’t find in a PSA 9


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[Qubits]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Would you guys "trade" a PSA 9 for BGS 9.5 true gem of the exact same card? Assume both cards look comparable and it is a non-chrome condition sensitive parallel.

As you guys know, I'm normally not a BGS fan.

I would only do this is the BGS 9.5 was noticeably better centered. I freakin' love a well centered baseball card.

Recent anecdote - I sold both my Mookie Betts 1st BCAs around WS time - I got more cash for my PSA 9 than my BGS 9.5 true gem.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

You're making me want to keep both now

This is the way.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

This is the way.

I value your input, thank you!

Originally Posted by Qubits

I would only do this is the BGS 9.5 was noticeably better centered. I freakin' love a well centered baseball card.



Recent anecdote - I sold both my Mookie Betts 1st BCAs around WS time - I got more cash for my PSA 9 than my BGS 9.5 true gem.

Centering doesn't matter as much.. it's a #700 parallel if you know what I mean . But yeah that's a good call, doing a side-by-side before committing either way.

[Qubits]

BGS 9.5 values are probably only going to get worse though. Also, there's no promise that PSA will ever stop pop controlling high end Ohtanis either.

If I had both cards I would sell the 9.5 TG+ and keep the PSA 9.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by Qubits

BGS 9.5 values are probably only going to get worse though. Also, there's no promise that PSA will ever stop pop controlling high end Ohtanis either.



If I had both cards I would sell the 9.5 TG+ and keep the PSA 9.

9.5s have been getting wrecked in value for low-mid end but have actually been holding up well for ultra high end. I'm not sure why, but between that 530K BL and some six figure (or close to) 9.5s, I think prices may be more resilient than we think.

[NYRE2PECT]

Personally, I'd hold any quality card of his for his first start of the year next Spring (ST or Regular Season), unless someone wants to get nuts with a BIN.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Would you guys "trade" a PSA 9 for BGS 9.5 true gem of the exact same card? Assume both cards look comparable and it is a non-chrome condition sensitive parallel.

As you guys know, I'm normally not a BGS fan.

when was the BGS graded? what are the subgrades? are you able to see it in person BEFORE a trade?

as time goes by i cant see the PSA 9 NOT being "more popular"

[ThoseBackPages]

BGS has TWO assigned grades higher than 9.5 (not even taking into account the many different subgrade combos for 9.5s and non-black 10s)

PSA has ONE grade higher than 9

[kltomek]

I’m keeping this in the BGS slab, haha. Pop 2 with a gem in both BGS and PSA

I do hate to say it though, the new PSA slabs are really going on me. Much stronger plastic.


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[ThoseBackPages]

yea, best to keep that as is. would probably be a PSA 9

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

when was the BGS graded? what are the subgrades? are you able to see it in person BEFORE a trade?

as time goes by i cant see the PSA 9 NOT being "more popular"

I still own both with the 9.5 true gem (9.5x4) on the way. I will evaluate both side-by-side before making any decisions.

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

BGS has TWO assigned grades higher than 9.5 (not even taking into account the many different subgrade combos for 9.5s and non-black 10s)

PSA has ONE grade higher than 9

Yeah, everyone knows BGS plays games and creates subjective differentiation that in reality are non-existent to minute differences. If it's a truly 9.5x4 card, I may try to cross it (no crack) for kicks. It was not long ago that 9.5x4 was valued higher than PSA 10

But fwiw: Zero BGS 10, Seven 9.5s, One True Gem+, Two True Gems -- It is not an easy grade even for BGS

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by kltomek

I’m keeping this in the BGS slab, haha. Pop 2 with a gem in both BGS and PSA

I do hate to say it though, the new PSA slabs are really going on me. Much stronger plastic.


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Okumeister and I own the two PSA 10s. You will get pop controlled to death if you try to cross anything with a 9 sub, and just not worth the risk to crack at this point in the game. Very very nice card.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

I still own both with the 9.5 true gem (9.5x4) on the way. I will evaluate both side-by-side before making any decisions.




Yeah, everyone knows BGS plays games and creates subjective differentiation that in reality are non-existent to minute differences. If it's a truly 9.5x4 card, I may try to cross it (no crack) for kicks. It was not long ago that 9.5x4 was valued higher than PSA 10

absolutely.

back when i cared about BGS, when i was buying 9.5s they had to have at LEAST four 9.5 subs.

not that i have proof, but i am most certain that i started that "True Gem" crap (the phrase) back on BMB (Beckett Message Boards) back in 2005

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

absolutely.

back when i cared about BGS, when i was buying 9.5s they had to have at LEAST four 9.5 subs.

not that i have proof, but i am most certain that i started that "True Gem" crap (the phrase) back on BMB (Beckett Message Boards) back in 2005

BGS should hire you as a consultant to manage the grading scale restructure. Offer $20 label changes for 9.5x4 to a platinum TBP caricature flip.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

BGS should hire you as a consultant to manage the grading scale restructure. Offer $20 label changes for 9.5x4 to a platinum TBP caricature flip.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

[kltomek]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Okumeister and I own the two PSA 10s. You will get pop controlled to death if you try to cross anything with a 9 sub, and just not worth the risk to crack at this point in the game. Very very nice card.

That does not surprise me one bit that you have both 10s definitely not going to try and cross it


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[seanrs1]

Anyone on here collect Ohtani Topps bunt digital cards?

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

BGS should hire you as a consultant to manage the grading scale restructure. Offer $20 label changes for 9.5x4 to a platinum TBP caricature flip.

Platinum Beard Flip Edition