2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[discostu]

Originally Posted by chezball

You left out the part that they wouldn't hand over the info so they had to shut it down.

Including Kobach's state...and these were his ideas behind the requests from states...something he and his own state didn't even provide.

For the states that released info, there was nothing sweeping nor anything of concern.

They shut it down because they turned up nothing in the states that submitted and got push back from blue and red states.

So again, this has been exhausted.

[chezball]

Nothing to see here.
https://twitter.com/tomfitton/status...744323?lang=en

[discostu]

Originally Posted by chezball

Nothing to see here.
https://twitter.com/tomfitton/status...744323?lang=en

Voter rolls are not votes, you know that.

I get that it sounds impressive, but it's zero evidence of anything fraudulent or even troublesome to people without an agenda.

[Astros19]

It's amazing how upset those on the left get at people showing us things like corruption but don't seem fazed by those actually doing things that are corrupt.

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[jdandns]

If by "upset", you mean slam-dunking garbage speculation into the trash while calmly pointing out verified facts, then sure.

Well done, discostu.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by jdandns

If by "upset", you mean slam-dunking garbage speculation into the trash while calmly pointing out verified facts, then sure.

Well done, discostu.

Well with you upset typically means dragging the baseball team I follow into the political thread, but alas, you already knew that didn't you.

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[jdandns]

I was actually done mentioning that group of proven cheaters you celebrate.

Not these ones, though:



Look out, Baby Yoda, he's adorable!

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by Astros19

It's amazing how upset those on the left get at people showing us things like corruption but don't seem fazed by those actually doing things that are corrupt.

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Its wild, but completely expected.

Talk about "not accepting the outcome of an election".

[jdandns]

Was "Parasite" good? I don’t know. I’m looking for...like...let’s get "Gone with the Wind"...can we get "Gone with the Wind" back, please? "Sunset Boulevard"? So many good movies...Greta Garbo, and Monroe. Dietrich and DiMaggio. Marlon Brando, Jimmy Dean the cover of a magazine. Grace Kelly; Harlow, Jean. Picture of a beauty queen. Don't just stand there, let's get to it.
Strike a pose, there's nothing to it...

[rman112]

1. Cheers on "slam-dunking garbage speculation".
2. Posts a pic suggesting Putin controls Trump.

[quackhead]

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by quackhead

Epstein died in a federal prison overseen by Attorney General William Barr, but yeah, Hillary somehow did it.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/willi...ffrey-epstein/

Hillary doesn't even like Trump. Why would she kill the Trump's very good friend Jeffrey to keep him from turning on Donald and A.G. Barr?
I would think she would want him to.

Calm down. Tell 'im, D-Man!

[rman112]

Epstein talking would've been bad for a lot of people. One of them was Bill Clinton. Or just completely gloss over that connection to Hillary and focus on your childish obsession over Trump.

[jdandns]

No, if Bill Clinton was into creepy stuff with Epstein like Trump was, he'd also deserve punishment. Got any pictures (or even better, video footage) of the two of them together, for instance, grotesquely ogling women?
Post it up...

[preakness]

Trump/ sheriff joe 2020

[rman112]

Originally Posted by jdandns

No, if Bill Clinton was into creepy stuff with Epstein like Trump was, he'd also deserve punishment. Got any pictures (or even better, video footage) of the two of them together, for instance, grotesquely ogling women?
Post it up...

Are you playing dumb, or genuinely unaware that there are zero doubts that Clinton flew on Epstein's private planes multiple times?

[jdandns]

CLINTON:

Feb. 9, 2002 — Clinton hopped a flight from Miami to Westchester, New York, where he lives.
March 19, 2002 — Clinton was listed as flying from New York to London and then returning two days later.
May 22, 2002 — Clinton flew from Japan to Hong Kong. The next day he flew to Singapore (by way of Shenzhen, China), where he gave a speech. On May 25, he left for Brunei, by way of Bangkok.
July 13, 2002 — He attended a wedding in Morocco and then hopped a flight to New York, stopping in the Azores.
Sept. 21, 2002 — Clinton left for a nine-day trip to Africa with actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker, visiting Ghana, Nigeria, Rwanda, Mozambique and South Africa. While there, he worked on HIV and AIDS prevention projects, democratization, and economic development. He finished the trip in England, where he addressed the Labour Party during its annual conference. In a 2002 profile of Epstein, Clinton is quoted as saying through a spokesman, “Jeffrey is both a highly successful financier and a committed philanthropist with a keen sense of global markets and an in-depth knowledge of twenty-first-century science. I especially appreciated his insights and generosity during the recent trip to Africa to work on democratization, empowering the poor, citizen service, and combating HIV/AIDS.” According to the flight records, this was the longest trip Clinton took on Epstein’s plane, and it accounted for 11 of the 26 total flights.
Nov. 4, 2003 — About a year after the Africa trip, Clinton took what appears to be his last trip on Epstein’s plane. He flew from Brussels to Oslo, where he had a two-day visit with officials to work on his project to prevent HIV and AIDS in developing countries. He then flew to Hong Kong, by way of Siberia, and finished the trip in Beijing.

TRUMP: I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by jdandns

CLINTON:

Feb. 9, 2002 — Clinton hopped a flight from Miami to Westchester, New York, where he lives.
March 19, 2002 — Clinton was listed as flying from New York to London and then returning two days later.
May 22, 2002 — Clinton flew from Japan to Hong Kong. The next day he flew to Singapore (by way of Shenzhen, China), where he gave a speech. On May 25, he left for Brunei, by way of Bangkok.
July 13, 2002 — He attended a wedding in Morocco and then hopped a flight to New York, stopping in the Azores.
Sept. 21, 2002 — Clinton left for a nine-day trip to Africa with actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker, visiting Ghana, Nigeria, Rwanda, Mozambique and South Africa. While there, he worked on HIV and AIDS prevention projects, democratization, and economic development. He finished the trip in England, where he addressed the Labour Party during its annual conference. In a 2002 profile of Epstein, Clinton is quoted as saying through a spokesman, “Jeffrey is both a highly successful financier and a committed philanthropist with a keen sense of global markets and an in-depth knowledge of twenty-first-century science. I especially appreciated his insights and generosity during the recent trip to Africa to work on democratization, empowering the poor, citizen service, and combating HIV/AIDS.” According to the flight records, this was the longest trip Clinton took on Epstein’s plane, and it accounted for 11 of the 26 total flights.
Nov. 4, 2003 — About a year after the Africa trip, Clinton took what appears to be his last trip on Epstein’s plane. He flew from Brussels to Oslo, where he had a two-day visit with officials to work on his project to prevent HIV and AIDS in developing countries. He then flew to Hong Kong, by way of Siberia, and finished the trip in Beijing.

TRUMP: I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.

So what are you saying? Trump was involved, or that he knew what Epstein was doing? Neither are good, but they're not at all the same. From what I can see, Clinton was on there 20+ times, and 5 w/o Secret Service. It's pretty clear to say he was on there to bang underage girls with Epstein and Co. Trump was on there once.

[rman112]

I love those descriptions, too. What do you think they're going to say?

"Hopped on worldwide flights on plane with bed to have group sex with underage girls amongst famous, powerful people?"

Stop choosing to be naive.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by jdandns

I was actually done mentioning that group of proven cheaters you celebrate.



Not these ones, though:







Look out, Baby Yoda, he's adorable!

Without any doubt what so ever.
#irresistible

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[rman112]

One more thing about Trump's quote on Epstein.

"Young" doesn't necessarily mean 13 or 15. 18, 19, 20, etc. are "young" as well. And obviously so to an older man. I have a really hard time believing Trump would willingly admit (that quote) to knowing Epstein was doing what he was doing with underage girls. Makes no sense. And if Trump knew, and took part, he'd be a frequent flier like Bill was.

[Athey49]

Originally Posted by rman112

So.. Ilhan married her bro?

She is a full on nut case

[Brobocop]

I love the back and forth of “My guy isn’t as terrible and awful as your guy!!!” going on right now. Classic politics thread.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

I love the back and forth of “My guy isn’t as terrible and awful as your guy!!!” going on right now. Classic politics thread.

Well it is the easiest argument to win.
Oh, and leave me out of that mess.

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[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by discostu

The entire issue with "Russian meddling" was an enormous, multi-faceted disinformation campaign.

It wasn't about affecting votes at the ballot box, it was about interfering and blurring the reality through social media outlets and crafting opinion to shift beliefs.

It spread fear, distrust and division throughout the country. This campaign reached millions through fake accounts, sharing, etc. Realize that the election was won by a few hundred thousand votes and that by all accounts ("all" as in the entire intelligence community...Obama's people and Trump's people) the campaign was to help steer the election towards Trump.

This same "all" group is in agreement that Russia is still at it and never stopped.

I'm not asking you to believe this, I'm just stating that it wasn't at the ballot box and that it's most certainly impossible to know how much of an impact it had.

Regarding actual voter fraud, Trump created a committee that failed miserably in finding anything.

Georgia investigated 25 inquiries into "suspicious" activity out of over 4 million ballots cast...and that was one of the largest numbers reported. 0.000625%.

Voter fraud is the hoax, not Russian meddling.

Voter fraud is a hoax in practical terms. But stupid people love their hoaxes and conspiracy theories.

As far as Russian meddling, it's also a hoax in practical terms. They weren't doing anything different than what Democrats and Republicans do to each other all the time. And they spent a lot less money too. Again, it's not the Russians I see as the problem, but stupid people, who are not in short supply in this country.