✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[Qubits]

So much fun when you lose an auction on a Shoehi and the seller immediately relists the item at >2x what your bid was after shilling it over your bid. LOL, tempted to send him an offer for my exact max bid to send a message.

[oddstuff]

Champion of champions.



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[ThoseBackPages]

BUY!!!!!!!!!

[Qubits]

Already an impressive resume and he's not close to done!

[al3xmac10]

Originally Posted by oddstuff

Champion of champions.



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You can add 2015 NPB Pacific League Pitching Triple Crown to that list...

[here2havefun]

Originally Posted by rms13

Does the fact that Ohtani was pretty much a no show for the World Series and most of the post season have any effect on his hobby value or does being on the World Series championship team automatically increase his hobby value?

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Originally Posted by Tim

Most of the post season? What were his stats in the NLDS and NLCS?

Had a .934 post season OPS going into the WS.

[JWBlue]

I don't get why some people say he won't approach price levels. He can be bigger than Trout. There will be some difference due to print run but his stuff has A LOT of room to grow.

His base PSA 10 will be a $500 card if he pitches well next season.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

I don't get why some people say he won't approach price levels. He can be bigger than Trout. There will be some difference due to print run but his stuff has A LOT of room to grow.

His base PSA 10 will be a $500 card if he pitches well next season.

The best analysts are those who can tell you both sides of the story.

What are some of the reasons YOU believe Ohtani prices could remain stagnant or even go down despite reasonable performance?

[Bcr]

He's going to have to work hard for the MVP next year. He got a lot of help this year with all the injuries in the NL and doing the incredible 50/50 likely won't happen again with him pitching. He needs to remain healthy with an arm that has been surgically repaired twice and pitch well after a long hiatus.

I am hopeful we get the same old Ohtani, but there is more risk next year. Just my 2 cents.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Bcr

He's going to have to work hard for the MVP next year. He got a lot of help this year with all the injuries in the NL and doing the incredible 50/50 likely won't happen again with him pitching. He needs to remain healthy with an arm that has been surgically repaired twice and pitch well after a long hiatus.

I am hopeful we get the same old Ohtani, but there is more risk next year. Just my 2 cents.

i wouldnt worry, just keep collecting

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by oddstuff

Champion of champions.



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Man, what a diss on the Angels.

[Bcr]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i wouldnt worry, just keep collecting

No worries here. I always collect accordingly

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Bcr

He's going to have to work hard for the MVP next year. He got a lot of help this year with all the injuries in the NL and doing the incredible 50/50 likely won't happen again with him pitching. He needs to remain healthy with an arm that has been surgically repaired twice and pitch well after a long hiatus.

I am hopeful we get the same old Ohtani, but there is more risk next year. Just my 2 cents.

There’s more risk, but only because of the 2024 he just had. To top it, he will need to hit 50 HRs, win 10 games, and win a World Series. The achievements already border on the absurd.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by Qubits

So much fun when you lose an auction on a Shoehi and the seller immediately relists the item at >2x what your bid was after shilling it over your bid. LOL, tempted to send him an offer for my exact max bid to send a message.

Hey, they gotta recoup the seller's fee for their shill bid backfiring!

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

There’s more risk, but only because of the 2024 he just had. To top it, he will need to hit 50 HRs, win 10 games, and win a World Series. The achievements already border on the absurd.

If he puts up a 10+ war like he did in 2023 - who will beat him? The only other player to put up 10's was #99 and he is over in the AL.

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

There’s more risk, but only because of the 2024 he just had. To top it, he will need to hit 50 HRs, win 10 games, and win a World Series. The achievements already border on the absurd.

I am not sure I understand your perspective of risk when it comes to Ohtani card prices due to performance (not economy or card market risk). Are you saying you see a scenerio where cards prices fall significantly (like 40-50%) if he doesn't win MVP or have MVP like numbers next year?

At this point there really is nothing left for him to accomplish. Even if he couldn't play another game the HOF would likely make an exception for his inclusion.

Just take a look
Unicorn
Legend
ROY
MVPx3 (assuming he wins this year)
WS champ

Every accomplishment from here on out just adds to the legend of Shohei Ohtani. The guy is in his prime, and I assume he will be healthy enough to pitch this next year, and his dislocated shoulder will heal and he will return to being a top hitter.

So can you please explain explicitly what risk you are talking about with his card prices? And which specific cards?

[Hellcat]

Originally Posted by oddstuff

Champion of champions.



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You forgot 2024 NL MVP!

[ObanMontecristo]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

I am not sure I understand your perspective of risk when it comes to Ohtani card prices due to performance (not economy or card market risk). Are you saying you see a scenerio where cards prices fall significantly (like 40-50%) if he doesn't win MVP or have MVP like numbers next year?

At this point there really is nothing left for him to accomplish. Even if he couldn't play another game the HOF would likely make an exception for his inclusion.

Just take a look
Unicorn
Legend
ROY
MVPx3 (assuming he wins this year)
WS champ

Every accomplishment from here on out just adds to the legend of Shohei Ohtani. The guy is in his prime, and I assume he will be healthy enough to pitch this next year, and his dislocated shoulder will heal and he will return to being a top hitter.

So can you please explain explicitly what risk you are talking about with his card prices? And which specific cards?

There’s always risk when it comes to active players. The value of his cards are based in large part on the assumption that he’ll continue doing what he’s been doing. If he retires right now, gets injured, or doesn’t perform well, his card values will go down- not all the way to $0, but they will go down.

I collect Ohtani and so I’m certainly not a hater or hoping that he doesn’t continue to do well, but you can’t say there’s absolutely 0 risk, particularly with his injury history… and the fact that his cards are at an all-time high right now.

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by ObanMontecristo

There’s always risk when it comes to active players. The value of his cards are based in large part on the assumption that he’ll continue doing what he’s been doing. If he retires right now, gets injured, or doesn’t perform well, his card values will go down- not all the way to $0, but they will go down.

I collect Ohtani and so I’m certainly not a hater or hoping that he doesn’t continue to do well, but you can’t say there’s absolutely 0 risk, particularly with his injury history… and the fact that his cards are at an all-time high right now.

I did not say zero risk, or that his cards could not go down for a variety of reasons. I was just saying what scenario Khal was specifically talking about. I guess my point is he has already accomplished all he needs to be a HOF and Legend.

[SidVish]

Originally Posted by ObanMontecristo

There’s always risk when it comes to active players. The value of his cards are based in large part on the assumption that he’ll continue doing what he’s been doing. If he retires right now, gets injured, or doesn’t perform well, his card values will go down- not all the way to $0, but they will go down.



I collect Ohtani and so I’m certainly not a hater or hoping that he doesn’t continue to do well, but you can’t say there’s absolutely 0 risk, particularly with his injury history… and the fact that his cards are at an all-time high right now.

Exactly. Tomorrow never knows.

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[ThoseBackPages]

like always, buy a card because you like it and you cant go wrong!

[NYRE2PECT]

I predict prices will go: up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, and Start

They always have and always will.

/marketwatch

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

I predict prices will go: up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, and Start

They always have and always will.

/marketwatch

Sneaky great post here

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

I predict prices will go: up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, and Start

They always have and always will.

/marketwatch

This post tells me a few things. You are old like me, played video games as a kid, and like Dad humor.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by ObanMontecristo

There’s always risk when it comes to active players. The value of his cards are based in large part on the assumption that he’ll continue doing what he’s been doing. If he retires right now, gets injured, or doesn’t perform well, his card values will go down- not all the way to $0, but they will go down.

I collect Ohtani and so I’m certainly not a hater or hoping that he doesn’t continue to do well, but you can’t say there’s absolutely 0 risk, particularly with his injury history… and the fact that his cards are at an all-time high right now.

His low-end rookie cards are most definitely NOT at an all-time high right now - not even close actually.