WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1021

asujbl · 02-28-2017, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hitman1116

I think we may get (and this depends on Talking Smack tonight)

Shane to strip AJ Styles of the main event at WrestleMania due to Randy Orton stating he is going to face Bray Wyatt

This will be the crux of Shane vs. AJ

Luke falls to the wayside. I dig Luke. I think he's a great big man who can truly do it all in the ring. I wish they would put him in the match because I think he deserves it and I think it fits the story but it doesn't seem like they will.

Maybe

I guess I don't see the point in giving the belt to Orton or Styles currently and Harper allows Wyatt to keep it without a clean victory

asujbl · 02-28-2017, 10:18 PM

What if Orton is faking and it's a way for Wyatt to beat Styles with ease? Not sure how that works for Styles of course

hitman1116 · 02-28-2017, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Maybe

I guess I don't see the point in giving the belt to Orton or Styles currently and Harper allows Wyatt to keep it without a clean victory

Yea I don't see Orton or Styles winning the title. I mean you could have Orton win but you make Wyatt with a win over Orton especially since he's just gone over Styles and Cena in the past weeks.

Harper keeps Orton clean plus he adds to the story

I'd love to see weeks of Bray trying to get his family back in order. Rowan is cleared from his injury. Weeks of Bray and Luke going back and forth because Luke always knew that Orton was the snake that he showed to be but can Bray get back his trust after what has gone down.

hitman1116 · 02-28-2017, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

What if Orton is faking and it's a way for Wyatt to beat Styles with ease? Not sure how that works for Styles of course

that'd probably be a crappy way to play something out at WrestleMania.

It'd be fine for a Smackdown but not for a Mania.

natbornkiller · 02-28-2017, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

With the sudden Orton change like you said and with AJ winning tonight, it seems like they have changed plans.

You're right. This makes no sense to just turn randomly.

so was the crap orton was saying about sister Abigail

BoxBreaker72 · 02-28-2017, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by natbornkiller

so was the crap orton was saying about sister Abigail

Yeah, it was very strange.

Couldn't tell if I should be cringing or if I was watching an episode of Dexter.

Yaboi07 · 03-01-2017, 12:54 AM

Just catching up... just finished the harper styles match. Im mind blown but love the twist of AJ winning. Harper has gotten a great push and has performed well. Interesting to see what happens now. Maybe vince is on the boards somewhere reading how we think AJ should be in the main event.... If only he listened to us about Roman

fulltritty · 03-01-2017, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

Really hoping this Miz promo doesnt go much longer. zzzzzz

Yeah 24 minutes opening the show is ridiculous!

Nyfancam01 · 03-01-2017, 06:39 AM

The Miz is an A lister. He deserves all the talking time he wants lol

I wish he was put in the top notch main event status though...

Next week Miz WILL 100% interfere in the cena/nikki vs carmella chinsworth match

Jericho · 03-01-2017, 09:21 AM

I didnt watch Talking Smack so if they explained it, I apologize. But if they wanna do AJ/Shane at Mania, Im guessing he either just gives Orton the Title match back (Because he did win the Rumble and they dont want to deal with legal issues, yes I know Orton gave up the match but still, its WWE so they have to try and make us think there would be legal issues. lol) Or they have Orton vs Styles in a number 1 contenders match again next week. AJ loses and then complains that Shane was out to get him or something. Either way as long as they get that title off Bray at Mania, I'll be happy

no10pin · 03-01-2017, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

I didnt watch Talking Smack so if they explained it, I apologize. But if they wanna do AJ/Shane at Mania, Im guessing he either just gives Orton the Title match back (Because he did win the Rumble and they dont want to deal with legal issues, yes I know Orton gave up the match but still, its WWE so they have to try and make us think there would be legal issues. lol) Or they have Orton vs Styles in a number 1 contenders match again next week. AJ loses and then complains that Shane was out to get him or something. Either way as long as they get that title off Bray at Mania, I'll be happy

They didn't really explain it, but it's clearly leading to something like that. Styles came on at the end when Shane was there just to make sure that he still had his match, and all Shane would say was that they had a lot to talk about. Since he wouldn't come right out and say he still had the match, it's pretty clear they are going to do something to get Randy in that slot, which sets up the Shane/AJ match as well.

Wolves4Life · 03-01-2017, 11:26 AM

I'm glad AJ won't be in the main event. Even if Luke is added or not. SD's best program outside of the women has been Randy and Bray.

hitman1116 · 03-01-2017, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

I'm glad AJ won't be in the main event. Even if Luke is added or not. SD's best program outside of the women has been Randy and Bray.

SD main event scene has been the best booked programs since the brand split. Bray and Randy program is the longest running outside of Jericho and Owens

I think you got to keep Randy vs. Bray. AJ doesn't fit and the story doesn't need Styles. Styles vs. Shane is a better story. Shane takes him out of the main event but says he's the no. 1 contender after Mania because Orton won the Rumble. Styles doesn't agree and takes his frustration out on Shane which leads to the match at Mania.

Though I do wonder how long Shane is going to be around. I'm surprised he's stayed a year but I don't know if he still has any business ventures in China that he is a part of.

mikecamp99 · 03-01-2017, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

I'm glad AJ won't be in the main event. Even if Luke is added or not. SD's best program outside of the women has been Randy and Bray.

Styles doesn't need to be in the Main Event, that's fine. But the way they are booking him is bad imo. Have him win a #1 contenders match only to strip it from him? That's stupid. Just as dumb as having a guy say he's too injured and won't be able to make a match.... only then for him to come back moments later and say he will have the match (Sasha a few months ago, Seth Rollins last week.)

Wolves4Life · 03-01-2017, 01:18 PM

TNA News:
Drew Gallows (McIntyre), Hardy's, Mike Bennett, Maria Kanellis, Jade are all now gone. Who knows if more will keep leaving.

mikecamp99 · 03-01-2017, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

TNA News:
Drew Gallows (McIntyre), Hardy's, Mike Bennett, Maria Kanellis, Jade are all now gone. Who knows if more will keep leaving.

Sheesh. Idk how the company can survive much longer. Everyone's leaving, I can't see how anybody would want to go there at this point. Even if they make you a big star, people aren't getting paid regularly, they are on a channel not many people watch, plus there are talks in the next couple months POP TV has an option to keep or cancel TNA. Those are factors that I would think keep a lot of people away and looking at ROH or Japan if WWE doesn't want them.

Jericho · 03-01-2017, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

TNA News:
Drew Gallows (McIntyre), Hardy's, Mike Bennett, Maria Kanellis, Jade are all now gone. Who knows if more will keep leaving.

Would be interested in Jade in WWE, she's really talented. I'd want the Hardys too but only if they let they stay The Broken Hardys, which they wont do because it would steal the spotlight from everything else wwe ha going on

Wolves4Life · 03-01-2017, 05:05 PM

Swagger (reportedly) was released. He asked to be.

cdub6238 · 03-01-2017, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Sheesh. Idk how the company can survive much longer. Everyone's leaving, I can't see how anybody would want to go there at this point. Even if they make you a big star, people aren't getting paid regularly, they are on a channel not many people watch, plus there are talks in the next couple months POP TV has an option to keep or cancel TNA. Those are factors that I would think keep a lot of people away and looking at ROH or Japan if WWE doesn't want them.

i dont know how much to read into it, but a lot of the Hardy's reasons were they didnt get a contract until a week or so prior to their current one running out, even though they had agreed to one (verbally i assume) earlier in the year...and Jarrett is back, and it is believed that they wouldnt have creative control anymore, which wouldnt bode well for the "broken" story

also i read somewhere that hilariously...new rules state that if you take indy bookings while employed by TNA, that the wrestlers have to PAY TNA 10% of what they make from said indy dates...

mikecamp99 · 03-01-2017, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cdub6238

also i read somewhere that hilariously...new rules state that if you take indy bookings while employed by TNA, that the wrestlers have to PAY TNA 10% of what they make from said indy dates...

Yup read that as well. TNA making so many smart decisions

Jericho · 03-01-2017, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Swagger (reportedly) was released. He asked to be.

Can't blame him. They really werent using him. Its a shame really. He's so talented and they never really got behind him fully. Wonder if he'd be interested in TNA. A Swagger/Lashley match would be really good. But I wish him the best wherever he ends up, or if he just jumps around the indy's for awhile.

fazzle · 03-01-2017, 07:55 PM

The instant that Swagger won the SD title and he *immediately* switched from goofy dorky Swagger to SRS Swagger, his career died.

hitman1116 · 03-01-2017, 10:31 PM

yea TNA is seriously just going to shits with their talent

They have had that 10% outside booking fee for a while but many of the top talent did not have that in their contract. They are now pushing to get all signed to deals like that.

The biggest thing that will affect the workers, is that they want to pay the contract on a per day basis and not a per episode basis. So if they shoot 6 episodes in 1 day, the talent is only going to get paid once instead of 6 times. That to me is the biggest laughable thing. The workers are providing you content for x amount of episodes but you'll only pay them like they did 1. Imagine if actors in TV were paid like that.

They hired Bruce Prichard back and I love Bruce's podcast. I just don't see what they'll have left to work with.

I'm assuming Lashley and Moose and some other names are still on their old contracts so they haven't had those negotiations yet.

bmac56 · 03-02-2017, 11:07 AM

AJ vs. Shane at Wrestlemania would suck. It does nothing for AJ, unless he just beats Shane to a pulp. All it does is stroke Shane's ego. I actually like Shane, much more than Stephanie, but this is just stupid.

I may be in the minority here but Bray vs. Orton is going to suck too. They need to make it a three-way with Luke or AJ to keep it interesting. Orton is terrible.

Jericho · 03-02-2017, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fazzle

The instant that Swagger won the SD title and he *immediately* switched from goofy dorky Swagger to SRS Swagger, his career died.

That was always strange to me. The second he won, he was Super Serious Swagger. If he kept his same personality I think it would have worked way better

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hitman1116 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,371 collegestudent1116	yea TNA is seriously just going to shits with their talent They have had that 10% outside booking fee for a while but many of the top talent did not have that in their contract. They are now pushing to get all signed to deals like that. The biggest thing that will affect the workers, is that they want to pay the contract on a per day basis and not a per episode basis. So if they shoot 6 episodes in 1 day, the talent is only going to get paid once instead of 6 times. That to me is the biggest laughable thing. The workers are providing you content for x amount of episodes but you'll only pay them like they did 1. Imagine if actors in TV were paid like that. They hired Bruce Prichard back and I love Bruce's podcast. I just don't see what they'll have left to work with. I'm assuming Lashley and Moose and some other names are still on their old contracts so they haven't had those negotiations yet. __________________ 2007 Bowman Chrome Football RC AU set- 31/54 = 57%

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bmac56 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Elsinore Brewery Posts: 213 bmcdonald1976 bmac56	AJ vs. Shane at Wrestlemania would suck. It does nothing for AJ, unless he just beats Shane to a pulp. All it does is stroke Shane's ego. I actually like Shane, much more than Stephanie, but this is just stupid. I may be in the minority here but Bray vs. Orton is going to suck too. They need to make it a three-way with Luke or AJ to keep it interesting. Orton is terrible. __________________ Collecting Chargers

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Yaboi07 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tacoma, Wa Posts: 2,447 Don7885	Just catching up... just finished the harper styles match. Im mind blown but love the twist of AJ winning. Harper has gotten a great push and has performed well. Interesting to see what happens now. Maybe vince is on the boards somewhere reading how we think AJ should be in the main event.... If only he listened to us about Roman

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Nyfancam01 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25,890 Nyfancam01 Nyfancam01	The Miz is an A lister. He deserves all the talking time he wants lol I wish he was put in the top notch main event status though... Next week Miz WILL 100% interfere in the cena/nikki vs carmella chinsworth match

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Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,982	I didnt watch Talking Smack so if they explained it, I apologize. But if they wanna do AJ/Shane at Mania, Im guessing he either just gives Orton the Title match back (Because he did win the Rumble and they dont want to deal with legal issues, yes I know Orton gave up the match but still, its WWE so they have to try and make us think there would be legal issues. lol) Or they have Orton vs Styles in a number 1 contenders match again next week. AJ loses and then complains that Shane was out to get him or something. Either way as long as they get that title off Bray at Mania, I'll be happy

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Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,454	I'm glad AJ won't be in the main event. Even if Luke is added or not. SD's best program outside of the women has been Randy and Bray.

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Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,454	TNA News: Drew Gallows (McIntyre), Hardy's, Mike Bennett, Maria Kanellis, Jade are all now gone. Who knows if more will keep leaving.

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Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,454	Swagger (reportedly) was released. He asked to be.

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fazzle Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,667 mjprz	The instant that Swagger won the SD title and he immediately switched from goofy dorky Swagger to SRS Swagger, his career died.