Anyone Here Collect 80's PSA rookies?

[ngs428]

Originally Posted by bagels88

Just digging after 40 years of not touching the cards, so looking at completed sales on fleabay and pulling stuff that is in top condition based off what sells I guess. Long way to go... Guess I'm going to need one of them fancy photo boxes for listing purposes.

Ha, you mean a scanner? check my signature.

[gmoney328]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

He deserved any hype. He was the Mike Trout of the 1980's. Before his back injury, his first three seasons were probably one of the greatest starts to a career in the history of MLB. During the three seasons he averaged a 0.340 BA, 219 hits, 48 doubles, 30 homers, and 123 RBI's. He should have won the MVP for the second year in a row, but Clemens had his 22-4 year in 1986. He will be remembered in my generation as the Mickey Mantle of the 1980's.

He really was a meteoric talent when he started. EVERYONE loved Mattingly.

[mocean]

Couple recent additions to the Jefferies pc...

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[rogatsby]

Here’s a decent 80’s PSA rookie.



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[WizardofOz1982]

Originally Posted by Nostalgia

Does this card go crazy when he makes the HOF?

Yes, it will.

[ngs428]

Originally Posted by WizardofOz1982

Yes, it will.

What are your thoughts on his 1986 update/traded cards vs the 1987 base. It is funny how things were different in 86’ or 87’ when even though Barry had an 86 Topps traded some still call the 87 Topps a rookie.

Nobody calls Griffey’s 1990 Topps his rookie.

[WizardofOz1982]

Originally Posted by ngs428

What are your thoughts on his 1986 update/traded cards vs the 1987 base. It is funny how things were different in 86’ or 87’ when even though Barry had an 86 Topps traded some still call the 87 Topps a rookie.

Nobody calls Griffey’s 1990 Topps his rookie.

Part of the RC classification back then was that it had to be issued in packs. Since the traded sets (before 1991 Topps) weren't issued in packs they weren't considered RCs.

The '86 Topps Traded will still be the most valuable I think but the '86 Fleer Update and the '87 Topps will take big jumps too. His other RCs will jump some but not as much.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by ngs428

What are your thoughts on his 1986 update/traded cards vs the 1987 base. It is funny how things were different in 86’ or 87’ when even though Barry had an 86 Topps traded some still call the 87 Topps a rookie.

Nobody calls Griffey’s 1990 Topps his rookie.

My thoughts are that the 1986 Topps Trade PSA 10, 1987 Topps PSA 10, or any mass produced junk wax PSA 10 Bonds will at best stay the same price even if he makes the HOF. Before COVID it was financially silly to submit a Bonds junk wax card to PSA, because if it didn't get a PSA 10 you lost money grading the card. With everyone entering back in the hobby, people are now cracking open their sealed 1986 Topps Traded and pulling their numerous 1987 Topps rookies out of 30 year old toploaders and submitting them in large quantities to PSA. Eventually PSA will catch up on grading and all versions of graded Bonds rookies will flood the market. IMO only the rare Bonds will hold value and spike with the HOF. Right now on eBay there are 36 PSA 10 1987 Topps rookies of Bonds and it has been increasing recently.

When it all comes down to it, POP reports will remain the strongest influencer of prices. Also PSA could try to keep POP numbers lower to have these cards maintain their value. I think the Tiffanies are a good buy still, but I would only buy PSA 9 verisions of the junk wax for my collection. PSA 10 junk wax is insanity right now. Paying $2000 for a Ken Griffey Jr PSA 10 Upper Deck is just a bragging piece at this point. There are so many beautiful PSA 9's or BGS/SGC alternatives that can be bought for $200 that I don't see the value. You can buy a 1984 Fleer Update Roger Clemens for the same price as a 1989 Upper Deck Griffey for the same price in PSA 10. One has a population of 3900 and will continue to grow as more people submit. The other has a population of 563 with very limited supply.

[sportzking]

Done with finishing up the three big cards from 83 Topps









Years ago I had wanted to get all three in PSA 10. With prices now, it makes more sense at least to me to just get them in 9. Plus I want to enjoy going broke... I mean the hobby.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by sportzking

Done with finishing up the three big cards from 83 Topps

Years ago I had wanted to get all three in PSA 10. With prices now, it makes more sense at least to me to just get them in 9. Plus I want to enjoy going broke... I mean the hobby.

PSA 9's are all I am focusing on from the 80's and 90's. Those cards have great centering and eye appeal! Congrats! You can get all three of those three cards for $400 to $500 in PSA 9 or $5000 for the PSA 10 equivalents. As a collector I think many of us are priced out of PSA 10's and see the value of the PSA 9's. PSA 9's hold the value right now IMO and will have greater growth as people can't afford PSA 10's.

[ngs428]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

PSA 9's are all I am focusing on from the 80's and 90's. Those cards have great centering and eye appeal! Congrats! You can get all three of those three cards for $400 to $500 in PSA 9 or $5000 for the PSA 10 equivalents. As a collector I think many of us are priced out of PSA 10's and see the value of the PSA 9's. PSA 9's hold the value right now IMO and will have greater growth as people can't afford PSA 10's.

I completely agree with this. 9’s and if need be 8’s are where it is at now.

Big 3.. $114 total shipped.

[ngs428]

Originally Posted by WizardofOz1982

Part of the RC classification back then was that it had to be issued in packs. Since the traded sets (before 1991 Topps) weren't issued in packs they weren't considered RCs.

The '86 Topps Traded will still be the most valuable I think but the '86 Fleer Update and the '87 Topps will take big jumps too. His other RCs will jump some but not as much.

I agree the issues in packs vs sets and also regional vs national distribution played a part in what was considered a rookie card. The way the hobby currently is as far as card availability for all the set only or regional cards, I think the old way of looking at it has little merit anymore. I always go with the earliest licensed card (among other rules I have), so be it in a traded or update set or base whatever is earliest. Tiffany or glossy parallels are considered part of and the most important option for the rookie card.

The pop on the 86TT is so very high, I opted to get a 86 FU. Figured it had the better upside. Heck for $35 for a 9, can’t go wrong.

Originally Posted by discodanman45

My thoughts are that the 1986 Topps Trade PSA 10, 1987 Topps PSA 10, or any mass produced junk wax PSA 10 Bonds will at best stay the same price even if he makes the HOF. Before COVID it was financially silly to submit a Bonds junk wax card to PSA, because if it didn't get a PSA 10 you lost money grading the card. With everyone entering back in the hobby, people are now cracking open their sealed 1986 Topps Traded and pulling their numerous 1987 Topps rookies out of 30 year old toploaders and submitting them in large quantities to PSA. Eventually PSA will catch up on grading and all versions of graded Bonds rookies will flood the market. IMO only the rare Bonds will hold value and spike with the HOF. Right now on eBay there are 36 PSA 10 1987 Topps rookies of Bonds and it has been increasing recently.

When it all comes down to it, POP reports will remain the strongest influencer of prices. Also PSA could try to keep POP numbers lower to have these cards maintain their value. I think the Tiffanies are a good buy still, but I would only buy PSA 9 verisions of the junk wax for my collection. PSA 10 junk wax is insanity right now. Paying $2000 for a Ken Griffey Jr PSA 10 Upper Deck is just a bragging piece at this point. There are so many beautiful PSA 9's or BGS/SGC alternatives that can be bought for $200 that I don't see the value. You can buy a 1984 Fleer Update Roger Clemens for the same price as a 1989 Upper Deck Griffey for the same price in PSA 10. One has a population of 3900 and will continue to grow as more people submit. The other has a population of 563 with very limited supply.

Yeah, I think some of the HOF value is already built into these cards, while we will see a little spike, it won’t last too long.

[WizardofOz1982]

Originally Posted by ngs428

I agree the issues in packs vs sets and also regional vs national distribution played a part in what was considered a rookie card. The way the hobby currently is as far as card availability for all the set only or regional cards, I think the old way of looking at it has little merit anymore. I always go with the earliest licensed card (among other rules I have), so be it in a traded or update set or base whatever is earliest. Tiffany or glossy parallels are considered part of and the most important option for the rookie card.

The pop on the 86TT is so very high, I opted to get a 86 FU. Figured it had the better upside. Heck for $35 for a 9, can’t go wrong.

Shhh...quit tipping people off

I've got a dozen raw '86 Update sets and ten PSA9 Updates sitting at the house just waiting for him to be inducted. I think the lack of a Glossy set in 1986 will help push the Update higher than usual for a base RC. The Tiffany will still be the king for 1986 but if you want a Fleer RC for Bonds the Update is the only option.

[ngs428]

Originally Posted by WizardofOz1982

Shhh...quit tipping people off

I've got a dozen raw '86 Update sets and ten PSA9 Updates sitting at the house just waiting for him to be inducted. I think the lack of a Glossy set in 1986 will help push the Update higher than usual for a base RC. The Tiffany will still be the king for 1986 but if you want a Fleer RC for Bonds the Update is the only option.

I will keep my lips sealed from here on out.

[mcholke]

Added this Walker to pair with another Hall of Fame player from the same team

[soey10]

Added this beauty that was on my list for a while


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[Gradek]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

My thoughts are that the 1986 Topps Trade PSA 10, 1987 Topps PSA 10, or any mass produced junk wax PSA 10 Bonds will at best stay the same price even if he makes the HOF. Before COVID it was financially silly to submit a Bonds junk wax card to PSA, because if it didn't get a PSA 10 you lost money grading the card. With everyone entering back in the hobby, people are now cracking open their sealed 1986 Topps Traded and pulling their numerous 1987 Topps rookies out of 30 year old toploaders and submitting them in large quantities to PSA. Eventually PSA will catch up on grading and all versions of graded Bonds rookies will flood the market. IMO only the rare Bonds will hold value and spike with the HOF. Right now on eBay there are 36 PSA 10 1987 Topps rookies of Bonds and it has been increasing recently.

When it all comes down to it, POP reports will remain the strongest influencer of prices. Also PSA could try to keep POP numbers lower to have these cards maintain their value. I think the Tiffanies are a good buy still, but I would only buy PSA 9 verisions of the junk wax for my collection. PSA 10 junk wax is insanity right now. Paying $2000 for a Ken Griffey Jr PSA 10 Upper Deck is just a bragging piece at this point. There are so many beautiful PSA 9's or BGS/SGC alternatives that can be bought for $200 that I don't see the value. You can buy a 1984 Fleer Update Roger Clemens for the same price as a 1989 Upper Deck Griffey for the same price in PSA 10. One has a population of 3900 and will continue to grow as more people submit. The other has a population of 563 with very limited supply.

The Griffey is higher (and will remain as such) because a) Griffey was/is way more popular than Clemens and more importantly b) the 1989 UD is the iconic card of a generation.

[ngs428]

[droidcrijon]

Originally Posted by soey10

Added this beauty that was on my list for a while

Nice pickup. I grew up in Nashville and remember these cards from Arby's. My two prize possessions as a kid were the Nashville Sounds Mattingly and Willie McGee!

[droidcrijon]

Originally Posted by ngs428

Nice collection! I think Jim Acker is lost.

Okay, I LOL'd

[ngs428]

4x All-Star, 2nd in MVP voting in 1989 when he led the league in slugging, RBI and extra base hits. One of the more memorable batting follow through's I have ever seen. Solid 20 Year career.

[Gustomania]

Couldn’t help myself today, and continue to build my Topps issued 80s. Just love the Gwynn and Mattingly and of course as a Braves fan been looking for a couple nice copies of Glavine and Smoltz.

[MitchjpAU]

Bought these early to mid last year...now I ALMOST feel guilty about the prices I paid...PC cards though, so oh well...

[Browns1981]

Would you post what you paid then vs what they are going for now?

[ngs428]

Originally Posted by MitchjpAU

Bought these early to mid last year...now I ALMOST feel guilty about the prices I paid...PC cards though, so oh well...

I hear ya. I created a cost sheet for a set I was thinking of starting, waited and waited too long. Now looking back at those prices makes me laugh... glad you got in before the bubble. I need a burst!!