WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1016

Pot Roast · 02-21-2017, 02:27 AM

Raw is missing something without Jericho and KO being BFFS. I mean I like that they did it, but still feels like something is missing.

mikecamp99 · 02-21-2017, 10:25 AM

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well it doesnt really help that the womens division is thin as it is anyways...

They really should of had the women all on one show, just like they do with the cruiserweights. The women's roster was already thin before the split, now there's what? 7 women on Raw and 5 women on Smackdown? Maybe a few more total but still, nothing like the men's roster where you can split it into two.

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only downside of this...Braun has gotten the better of Roman time and time again..

which naturally of course means Braun will have his first clean loss to Roman at the PPV...

let the eye rolling begin

Hoping if it's still Roman vs Taker at mania, Taker screws Roman at the PPV.

Wolves4Life · 02-21-2017, 11:46 AM

"Reigns is getting over pushed" the fans say.

Reigns loses to Tag champs and getting beat up by Braun week after week but fans still think he's "over pushed".

ThaReal1 · 02-21-2017, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

"Reigns is getting over pushed" the fans say.

Reigns loses to Tag champs and getting beat up by Braun week after week but fans still think he's "over pushed".

Losing a match by taking a chair and laying out tag champs was not a loss...reigns wiped the tag Champs by himself and looked very strong after superman punch and spear to both... if that's not a push, I don't what it is

Braun did get the better of him though.

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cdub6238 · 02-21-2017, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

"Reigns is getting over pushed" the fans say.

Reigns loses to Tag champs and getting beat up by Braun week after week but fans still think he's "over pushed".

- loses to tag champs last week...only to end up getting the better of them after the match..

- loses to tag champs this week by disqualification..because he beat them down with a chair and just destroyed them by himself..the TAG CHAMPS...

- keeps losing to Braun and getting beat down..only because hes gonna cost Braun his first clean loss at the upcoming PPV...

nahh i wonder why people think hes overpushed...

mikecamp99 · 02-21-2017, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

"Reigns is getting over pushed" the fans say.

Reigns loses to Tag champs and getting beat up by Braun week after week but fans still think he's "over pushed".

I agree with the two above, just because he lost doesn't mean he isn't getting pushed. It helps the Tag Champs none at all having them get destroyed by Reigns after the matches to make him look strong, and to have them look absolutely pathetic being beat up by one man.

hreed2 · 02-21-2017, 12:35 PM

I SO wish he would've picked up!

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Ty Hope · 02-21-2017, 12:38 PM

NO ONE should be taking on and getting the better of the tag team champs by themselves. It's beyond being over pushed. It's flat out ridiculous. Some other low-tier team MAYBE. But not the champs. This is the BS people hate Reigns for. And just watch the hate pour in if hd beats Braun. Please don't let that happen Vince....

Jericho · 02-21-2017, 01:15 PM

To be fair to Roman, Im not a fan, but it's not his fault Vince is doing this with him. Is he suppose to say no to these matches and his push? No wrestler would ever say no to this. So while I dont enjoy alot of the Roman stuff, its not his fault, that fault goes to Vince

ThaReal1 · 02-21-2017, 01:23 PM

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To be fair to Roman, Im not a fan, but it's not his fault Vince is doing this with him. Is he suppose to say no to these matches and his push? No wrestler would ever say no to this. So while I dont enjoy alot of the Roman stuff, its not his fault, that fault goes to Vince

I agree so much with this and I've actually been one to defend Wolves when he states how good of a wrestler Roman is. He's really put on some great matches from 2016 on...the storyline and booking is my main problem with him. Plus he's meh on the mic. He's not the worst in the company, but he's not good

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cdub6238 · 02-21-2017, 01:33 PM

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I agree so much with this and I've actually been one to defend Wolves when he states how good of a wrestler Roman is. He's really put on some great matches from 2016 on...the storyline and booking is my main problem with him. Plus he's meh on the mic. He's not the worst in the company, but he's not good

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i agree completely with this..and have even said as much before...giving him credit for improving in the ring and such..

its not so much as hate for Reigns as a person...its hate for the constant pushes he has received after the Shield broke up..juts boom instant ME event push..

although he has improved in the ring..he hasnt helped matters much by his "charisma" and constant lack of caring while in character in certain spots

some might point to Cena and his constant shove n push down everyones throat..

which is true to a point..however Cena has a hell of a lot more charisma and top notch promo skills..and he actually WORKED his way to the top and earned it

Wolves4Life · 02-21-2017, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cdub6238

- loses to tag champs last week...only to end up getting the better of them after the match..

- loses to tag champs this week by disqualification..because he beat them down with a chair and just destroyed them by himself..the TAG CHAMPS...

- keeps losing to Braun and getting beat down..only because hes gonna cost Braun his first clean loss at the upcoming PPV...

nahh i wonder why people think hes overpushed...

I don't think he beats Braun. He should but I think Taker interferes.

mnvikingstwins · 02-21-2017, 05:01 PM

Such a good promo.

DaKidder · 02-21-2017, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

To be fair to Roman, Im not a fan, but it's not his fault Vince is doing this with him. Is he suppose to say no to these matches and his push? No wrestler would ever say no to this. So while I dont enjoy alot of the Roman stuff, its not his fault, that fault goes to Vince

100%, been saying this since Mania. A majority of the boo's he gets aren't for him...they are for Vince & the "idea" of Roman as "the Guy" or more accurately "Vince's guy." Roman is solid in the ring...but the people that call the shots are doing him ZERO favours right now

Ty Hope · 02-21-2017, 06:10 PM

I've even said this too. The Roman hate is primarily because people are sick of being told who to cheer for. Cena's years of mega-pushes caused this. No one wanted Cena 2.0.

That being said, I still don't think Reigns has the charisma to ever be the top guy.

Jericho · 02-21-2017, 09:52 PM

I've always found it dumb that someone eliminated from a battle royal (or the royal rumble for that matter) can come back in and eliminate someone. Just dumb IMO

Jericho · 02-21-2017, 09:58 PM

And these "tie" ending to Battle Royal's are a pain in the ass too.

BoxBreaker72 · 02-21-2017, 10:23 PM

It's 2017 and they didn't go to replay to figure this out.

They hate their audience. They really think we are idiots.

DaKidder · 02-21-2017, 10:55 PM

As much as I'm looking forward to Styles/Harper next week...the end of that battle royal, & "decision" after it got me like...

As Vince always says "I know what the fans want better than they do"

cdub6238 · 02-21-2017, 11:23 PM

not a Naomi fan by any means..but really does suck to see her real emotion even saying Bryan and having to forfeit right after winning the belt..and damn Alexa is good on the mic and getting heat; kinda cheesy win with roll up though

holy crap..please never let the Usos attempt a promo like that again...that was damn near as bad as their cousin with a mic...

what the hell with these cheesy promos for the battle royal...AJ skipping around, Ziggler superkicking a fake background, Mojo Rawley??

Nikki Bella still sucks at promos..no real emotion, just blank looks and reading lines off cue cards...

i guess they had to further set up the WM tag match somehow..but thank god this feud is over..the crowd was completely dead for most of this match

BR was ok for what it was..if Mojo and Kalisto werent the 1st 2 gone, then someone had some explainin 2 do lol Crews furthered the Ziggler storyline...Cena has now eliminated Miz from the title twice, so i guess that furthers that feud...Corbin/Ambrose furthered their feud...

ending was meh...glad to see Harper getting some push though as a singles guy

Yaboi07 · 02-22-2017, 01:07 AM

Prime opportunity for them to put AJ in the main event in a fatal four way at WM. And they pissed it away. Any match with Styles and the up and coming Harper would be great and I love Wyatt. So that sucks they didn't just got 4 way. Shane AJ will be lame

Moose48 · 02-22-2017, 09:50 AM

Here's a question, why does everyone want everything to be a triple threat, or fatal 4-way, or battle royal? Don't people think that two individuals or tag teams are capable of putting on a good match? I find they get boring. This guys gets beat up and thrown out, so he's just forgotten about, then he comes back later so someone else can take a break, etc. It used to be having 3-4 people in a "singles" match was a rarity, now it seems like it's the only thing creative can come up with.

Wolves4Life · 02-22-2017, 09:58 AM

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not a Naomi fan by any means..but really does suck to see her real emotion even saying Bryan and having to forfeit right after winning the belt..and damn Alexa is good on the mic and getting heat; kinda cheesy win with roll up though

holy crap..please never let the Usos attempt a promo like that again...that was damn near as bad as their cousin with a mic...

what the hell with these cheesy promos for the battle royal...AJ skipping around, Ziggler superkicking a fake background, Mojo Rawley??

Nikki Bella still sucks at promos..no real emotion, just blank looks and reading lines off cue cards...

i guess they had to further set up the WM tag match somehow..but thank god this feud is over..the crowd was completely dead for most of this match

BR was ok for what it was..if Mojo and Kalisto werent the 1st 2 gone, then someone had some explainin 2 do lol Crews furthered the Ziggler storyline...Cena has now eliminated Miz from the title twice, so i guess that furthers that feud...Corbin/Ambrose furthered their feud...

ending was meh...glad to see Harper getting some push though as a singles guy

You are the only person i have seen complain about USO's promo. IMO that's the best promo any tag team has cut in years.

Wolves4Life · 02-22-2017, 10:00 AM

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Prime opportunity for them to put AJ in the main event in a fatal four way at WM. And they pissed it away. Any match with Styles and the up and coming Harper would be great and I love Wyatt. So that sucks they didn't just got 4 way. Shane AJ will be lame

Why do people still think AJ is going to be in the main event? Wyatt family story is better for Wrestlmania. I like AJ he had the best year of any superstar in a long time. Him not being in the main event won't diminish anything.

Nyfancam01 · 02-22-2017, 10:01 AM

AJ clearly hit first... but I would much rather see AJ in the main event... lol

i figure its going to be Bray vs Luke... and then bray will ask randy to join the match since he won rumble and can be "insurance" .....

randy then turns on bray... destroys both bray and luke and wins title

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Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,460	"Reigns is getting over pushed" the fans say. Reigns loses to Tag champs and getting beat up by Braun week after week but fans still think he's "over pushed".

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hreed2 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,580	I SO wish he would've picked up! Video: The Rock Calls CM Punk From The Ring After RAW Goes Off The Air - TheSportster

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Ty Hope Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,870	NO ONE should be taking on and getting the better of the tag team champs by themselves. It's beyond being over pushed. It's flat out ridiculous. Some other low-tier team MAYBE. But not the champs. This is the BS people hate Reigns for. And just watch the hate pour in if hd beats Braun. Please don't let that happen Vince....

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Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 3,042	To be fair to Roman, Im not a fan, but it's not his fault Vince is doing this with him. Is he suppose to say no to these matches and his push? No wrestler would ever say no to this. So while I dont enjoy alot of the Roman stuff, its not his fault, that fault goes to Vince

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mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,244 ski_4 ski_4	Such a good promo.

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Ty Hope Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,870	I've even said this too. The Roman hate is primarily because people are sick of being told who to cheer for. Cena's years of mega-pushes caused this. No one wanted Cena 2.0. That being said, I still don't think Reigns has the charisma to ever be the top guy.

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Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 3,042	I've always found it dumb that someone eliminated from a battle royal (or the royal rumble for that matter) can come back in and eliminate someone. Just dumb IMO

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Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 3,042	And these "tie" ending to Battle Royal's are a pain in the ass too.

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BoxBreaker72 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10,353	It's 2017 and they didn't go to replay to figure this out. They hate their audience. They really think we are idiots.

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cdub6238 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18,035	not a Naomi fan by any means..but really does suck to see her real emotion even saying Bryan and having to forfeit right after winning the belt..and damn Alexa is good on the mic and getting heat; kinda cheesy win with roll up though holy crap..please never let the Usos attempt a promo like that again...that was damn near as bad as their cousin with a mic... what the hell with these cheesy promos for the battle royal...AJ skipping around, Ziggler superkicking a fake background, Mojo Rawley?? Nikki Bella still sucks at promos..no real emotion, just blank looks and reading lines off cue cards... i guess they had to further set up the WM tag match somehow..but thank god this feud is over..the crowd was completely dead for most of this match BR was ok for what it was..if Mojo and Kalisto werent the 1st 2 gone, then someone had some explainin 2 do lol Crews furthered the Ziggler storyline...Cena has now eliminated Miz from the title twice, so i guess that furthers that feud...Corbin/Ambrose furthered their feud... ending was meh...glad to see Harper getting some push though as a singles guy

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Yaboi07 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tacoma, Wa Posts: 2,447 Don7885	Prime opportunity for them to put AJ in the main event in a fatal four way at WM. And they pissed it away. Any match with Styles and the up and coming Harper would be great and I love Wyatt. So that sucks they didn't just got 4 way. Shane AJ will be lame

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Nyfancam01 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25,890 Nyfancam01 Nyfancam01	AJ clearly hit first... but I would much rather see AJ in the main event... lol i figure its going to be Bray vs Luke... and then bray will ask randy to join the match since he won rumble and can be "insurance" ..... randy then turns on bray... destroys both bray and luke and wins title