WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[hitman1116]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

you going with this argument again?

Cena's reaction is split..the difference between him and Reigns, Cena has been around for 10+ years and his character has grown stale...thats where his "boos" come from

merchandise sales have nothing to do with how over someone is...so a kid watches wrestling at home and asks mommy or daddy for a shirt/poster etc for Reigns..of course...but you think the majority of 20+ somethings at least that are shelling out $$ for houseshows and live shows, are buying his merch/supporting him? no..they are the ones you hea boooing him endelslly night in night out...

does WWE care? no they get their $$ either way..

yet you think a person who just watches on TV gets their parents to just buy merch.

When I was younger my parents would take me to the shows to watch the baby face beat the heel. That's what happens still.

Look I don't think Roman is over with the 20-35 demo but guess who he is over with....Women and children and that's good enough.

you do know merch sales is a good way to gauge how well an act is liked right? Like they don't just make 15 shirts for a guy if 14 aren't selling.

Hell The Bellas are over and top merch sellers too.

[cdub6238]

please keep Dar as far away from the mic as possible...

[hitman1116]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

please keep Dar as far away from the mic as possible...

Alica FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOx

[hitman1116]

Love Neville as the king of the Cruiserweights

Really think that with Tozawa, Gallagher, Neville, Alexander, and potentially Austin Aries, that the cruiserweight division will be fine. Just needs to continue to find its footing.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by hitman1116

Love Neville as the king of the Cruiserweights

Really think that with Tozawa, Gallagher, Neville, Alexander, and potentially Austin Aries, that the cruiserweight division will be fine. Just needs to continue to find its footing.

i havent seen any of his outside work they were talking about before his debut...but i wasnt really impressed with Tozawa.

Gallagher is great imo, even just as comic relief...Perkins has been great going back as far as his runs in TNA and ROH..Cedric was also solid in ROH..

this heel Neville is what his character needed..he was floundering with no direction until now

im not sure what the deal is with AA..hes the total package with ring skills and mic skills...not sure if hes announcing due to injury still or if its a transition thing

the rest are..meh

[Wolves4Life]

Please for the love of GAWD don't let this Emmalina return be a joke and it's actually true. No reason SD can have a program for 7 women and RAW a 3 hour show can't go past 4 women.

[hitman1116]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

i havent seen any of his outside work they were talking about before his debut...but i wasnt really impressed with Tozawa.

Gallagher is great imo, even just as comic relief...Perkins has been great going back as far as his runs in TNA and ROH..Cedric was also solid in ROH..

this heel Neville is what his character needed..he was floundering with no direction until now

im not sure what the deal is with AA..hes the total package with ring skills and mic skills...not sure if hes announcing due to injury still or if its a transition thing

the rest are..meh

Tozawa has that Japanese strong style that will separate him from the rest. I'm a fan of his. Thought his match with Gulak was pretty good tonight and got the crowd going.

Yea Gallagher is a great character. I think Cedric and him are the faces to really take 205Live to be something really good

Yea not sure on Aries with that injury. I know it was a nasty injury. No clue on what the time frame is for a broken orbital bone is but it looked nasty. But when he comes back he'll be a great heel.

I think they go with Cedric for the title at Mania unless they do a ladder match then who knows.

[hitman1116]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Please for the love of GAWD don't let this Emmalina return be a joke and it's actually true. No reason SD can have a program for 7 women and RAW a 3 hour show can't go past 4 women.

Issue with bringing Emmalina in now is what will she do? I mean I guess you could give her some squashes but no babyface will be open to feud until after Mania and who knows if they'll have more than 1 going forward.


I thought she should have debuted as sort of opposite Alicia Foxx with the cruiserweight stuff. Keep Alicia face and let Emmalina win a quick feud easy.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by hitman1116

Issue with bringing Emmalina in now is what will she do? I mean I guess you could give her some squashes but no babyface will be open to feud until after Mania and who knows if they'll have more than 1 going forward.


I thought she should have debuted as sort of opposite Alicia Foxx with the cruiserweight stuff. Keep Alicia face and let Emmalina win a quick feud easy.

Yeah, Not sure. Part of me thinks it's the same as few months ago, Debut "next week" but never does. But no promo last week and one tonight for next week debut makes me hopefully it's real. She could do a quick Sasha feud (if she heel) or Dana since Dana dropped Emma the second she got hurt to follow Charlotte along.

[cdub6238]

wouldve been awesome if Joe couldve managed a Muscle Buster on Reigns..

and i dont agree with this booking either, WWE really gonna have Braun's first loss be to Reigns? no the Zayn 10 minute challenge doesnt count as an actual loss imo

[DaKidder]

SAAAAAMMMMOAAAAAA! Can't wait for Joe, Reigns &/or Strowman to fight for a Universal title shot at Mania.......wait, what's that? None of them will face Owens at Mania? Wait...None of the 4 will even be involved in the Universal Title match at Mania? Surely you must be joking? Oh, you're not....well...ummm...ok then :S

[hitman1116]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Yeah, Not sure. Part of me thinks it's the same as few months ago, Debut "next week" but never does. But no promo last week and one tonight for next week debut makes me hopefully it's real. She could do a quick Sasha feud (if she heel) or Dana since Dana dropped Emma the second she got hurt to follow Charlotte along.

yea I don't know where they were/are going with this Emmalina thing. I really dug Emma and Dana as a duo. I could have seen her going against Charlotte to try and get Dana back sort of thing and that way you could spin Emma face, but having her do this sort of Eva Marie type thing just doesn't make sense.

Only thing that, at least for me, is working in its favor is that Emma can go in the ring and I think she's one of the most talented women they have on the roster.

[Wolves4Life]

Roman sells a beat down better than anyone in WWE and it's not even close. Roman makes Strowman look strong .

[Nyfancam01]

Joe really sold the "drive by" move from roman well!

[hitman1116]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Roman sells a beat down better than anyone in WWE and it's not even close. Roman makes Strowman look strong .

I'm a big fan of Sami selling death/being run over by Strowman and a big fan of Bayley selling Nia at London especially.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by hitman1116

I'm a big fan of Sami selling death/being run over by Strowman and a big fan of Bayley selling Nia at London especially.

True but Roman sells week to week good.

[Ty Hope]

Merch is not always a good indicator. WWE has in the past pulled merch of guys who were getting over when Vince didn't want them to. Happened to Ryder at one point and others have gone on record. WWE pushes merch as much as they push talent.

[mikecamp99]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Yeah, Not sure. Part of me thinks it's the same as few months ago, Debut "next week" but never does. But no promo last week and one tonight for next week debut makes me hopefully it's real. She could do a quick Sasha feud (if she heel) or Dana since Dana dropped Emma the second she got hurt to follow Charlotte along.

I don't think they will do anything with her and Sasha. They just booked Bayley vs Charlotte for the title next week, I'm guessing Sasha comes out and screws Bayley so I don't see Emma being anywhere close to that angle at the moment.

My guess is if she does make her debut it will be something to do with her and Dana, whether it's they get back together or start feuding with one another.

[BestRCs]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

He got cheered in Cleveland with the cheap pop.

Honestly, I don't care what the fans think. He's getting pushed. He will beat Taker at Mania and I will be happy.

Originally Posted by hitman1116

lol the fans don't hate him

that's like saying the fans hate cena.

guess who sells the most merch? the top two guys who are getting booed

LOL..... There's like 2 wolves now!

[mikecamp99]

Rollins sounds like he should be good to go for Mania, probably won't be 100% but there is no way he is missing it again this year. I think the injury is a blessing in disguise. Keep him off TV for a few weeks, really build it up that he might not go. Then, sometime after fastlane have him return to maybe do a Pedigree or something that won't hurt his knee which will really build up the story leading to Mania.

[ThaReal1]

Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Rollins sounds like he should be good to go for Mania, probably won't be 100% but there is no way he is missing it again this year. I think the injury is a blessing in disguise. Keep him off TV for a few weeks, really build it up that he might not go. Then, sometime after fastlane have him return to maybe do a Pedigree or something that won't hurt his knee which will really build up the story leading to Mania.

It won't happen...

But can you imagine how awesome it would be if he ditches the pedigree and finishes HHH with the curb stomp?

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[mikecamp99]

Originally Posted by ThaReal1

It won't happen...

But can you imagine how awesome it would be if he ditches the pedigree and finishes HHH with the curb stomp?

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Would get the biggest pop out of anything if he were to do that. I'll bet he teases it, but doesn't come through. I hope he ditches the pedigree either way and goes with a new finisher.

[hitman1116]

good opening segment.

gotta assume that whoever wins gets hit by a sister Abigail after the pin.

[mnvikingstwins]

So 3 divas singles matches at EC? Guess it's not a terrible card

Alexa (c) vs Naomi
Mickie vs Becky
Natayla vs Nikki

Bray vs Dean vs Styles vs Corbin vs Miz vs Cena (c)

Harper vs Orton (probably)

Tag Team Shitfest

[mnvikingstwins]

These 2 could stop this interview any time, not very good at pretending to be intense