2023-24 NBA Season Thread

[brothertona]

Originally Posted by jcmel323

I'm curious to see what that significant offer is
They could offer nurkic, jerami grant and 3 1st round picks and still miami wont be interested.

I’m assuming significant would be Sharpe, Simons, #3 plus future picks


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[Braswell10]

Originally Posted by brothertona

I’m assuming significant would be Sharpe, Simons, #3 plus future picks


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Bam is not worth all of that. I would rather have KAT.

[Spacemanspif]

18 pts / 10 reb / 4 asst / 1.6 stock / 2.7 TO / 48% FG / 82% FT / made the Finals again / 69 career playoff games and 8 series wins in 6 years

18 pts / 10 reb / 2 asst / 1.4 stock / 3.6 TO / 46% FG / 75% FT / 25% 3P / another first round exit / 16 career playoff games and 0 series wins in 8 years

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

18 pts / 10 reb / 4 asst / 1.6 stock / 2.7 TO / 48% FG / 82% FT / made the Finals again / 69 career playoff games and 8 series wins in 6 years

18 pts / 10 reb / 2 asst / 1.4 stock / 3.6 TO / 46% FG / 75% FT / 25% 3P / another first round exit / 16 career playoff games and 0 series wins in 8 years

Oh snap

I love these

[Braswell10]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

18 pts / 10 reb / 4 asst / 1.6 stock / 2.7 TO / 48% FG / 82% FT / made the Finals again / 69 career playoff games and 8 series wins in 6 years

18 pts / 10 reb / 2 asst / 1.4 stock / 3.6 TO / 46% FG / 75% FT / 25% 3P / another first round exit / 16 career playoff games and 0 series wins in 8 years

KATs playing with another center in Gobert who clearly isn’t a good fit. Bam has zero offensive game besides around the basket, and is too small to match up against real centers. Nobody in their right mind is giving up all of that for a 6’9 center. Bam is more valuable to Miami than he would be to any other team.

I’ll take the big man who has an offensive game and can stretch the floor 10 times out of 10.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by daeve

Draymond was in 99th percentile on DEPM, Nesmith was in 32nd. Find a new slant.

Draymond is staying with the Warriors anyway.

No reason to overthink it.

[daeve]

finally in writing from a reputable source...

[Wojnarowski] The Hornets are preparing to select Brandon Miller at No. 2 overall

quite possible we see Dame and Zion traded in the next 48 hours.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by daeve

finally in writing from a reputable source...

quite possible we see Dame and Zion traded in the next 48 hours.

i wish I could see the connection here

[daeve]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

i wish I could see the connection here

Scoot is the pick at #3 for Portland... so if it's not traded then he gone. Maybe he stays if Pels trade Zion for the pick, or potentially Siakam. Haven't heard much else rumor-wise. Nothing on KAT.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by daeve

Scoot is the pick at #3 for Portland... so if it's not traded then he gone. Maybe he stays if Pels trade Zion for the pick, or potentially Siakam. Haven't heard much else rumor-wise. Nothing on KAT.

Do you really think New Orleans would trade Zion for #3?

I don't think Scoot fits the roster. I would much rather have Zion+Dyson than Scoot.

He's a ball dominator. You've already got multiple other guys who need the ball to be effective (BI/CJ). Add in Trey who showed some real shot creation, on-ball skills last season.

Yea Zion can't stay healthy and maybe he doesn't like NO but he's a guy who can dominate with or without the ball

[indyguy]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Do you really think New Orleans would trade Zion for #3?

I don't think Scoot fits the roster. I would much rather have Zion+Dyson than Scoot.

He's a ball dominator. You've already got multiple other guys who need the ball to be effective (BI/CJ). Add in Trey who showed some real shot creation, on-ball skills last season.

Yea Zion can't stay healthy and maybe he doesn't like NO but he's a guy who can dominate with or without the ball

Scoot/CJ/BI/Dyson/Trey/Alvarado/Lewis....that's a LOT of dribble drive offense. That could be great for their catch and shoot guys.

[brothertona]

Looks like Hunter, Capela, and JC are on the market, and they've hinted that DJ could be.

Massive change is on the way in Atlanta.

[Braswell10]

Originally Posted by brothertona

Looks like Hunter, Capela, and JC are on the market, and they've hinted that DJ could be.

Massive change is on the way in Atlanta.

That’s good for the Hawks. They need to make more room for AJ, JJ, and OO.

[daeve]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Do you really think New Orleans would trade Zion for #3?

I don't think Scoot fits the roster. I would much rather have Zion+Dyson than Scoot.

He's a ball dominator. You've already got multiple other guys who need the ball to be effective (BI/CJ). Add in Trey who showed some real shot creation, on-ball skills last season.

Yea Zion can't stay healthy and maybe he doesn't like NO but he's a guy who can dominate with or without the ball

I think if their relationship is as bad as the media is indicating, then being able to draft Scoot would be looked at as getting as big of a 'young star' as they can get for Zion. I don't think they would worry as much about fit as they would about trying to replace Z with another young star. It's a unique situation and I don't see a better one appearing out of nowhere if indeed they want to ditch the Zion experiment.

[bustsomewax]

The Hornets taking Miller over Scoot is just another incompetent move in a long, rich history of them.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by daeve

I think if their relationship is as bad as the media is indicating, then being able to draft Scoot would be looked at as getting as big of a 'young star' as they can get for Zion. I don't think they would worry as much about fit as they would about trying to replace Z with another young star. It's a unique situation and I don't see a better one appearing out of nowhere if indeed they want to ditch the Zion experiment.

Yea I don't disagree but just seems like a huge waste to get rid of Zion now for a single 1st.

You'd think he could get at least 4-5 1sts and a couple young players despite the health issues.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by daeve

Draymond was in 99th percentile on DEPM, Nesmith was in 32nd. Find a new slant.

Seems like DRTG is the metric in use these days? Nesmith 118.8, Draymond 112, unless I am missing something.

Also:

"Out of necessity (owing to a lack of defensive data in the basic boxscore), individual Defensive Ratings are heavily influenced by the team's defensive efficiency. They assume that all teammates are equally good (per minute) at forcing non-steal turnovers and non-block misses, as well as assuming that all teammates face the same number of total possessions per minute. Perhaps as a byproduct, big men tend to have the best Defensive Ratings...."

What this means is that 6'5 Nesmith's accomplishment is all the more formidable, considering the Pacers were 28th in defense league wide.

[daeve]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Yea I don't disagree but just seems like a huge waste to get rid of Zion now for a single 1st.

You'd think he could get at least 4-5 1sts and a couple young players despite the health issues.

I'm sure if it's Zion then Portland will add more. If they're keeping Dame and risking it on a run now then might as well. What if the overall package is Simons, Reddish [salary matching], #3, #23 and '25 and '27 1sts?

[daeve]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Seems like DRTG is the metric in use these days? Nesmith 118.8, Draymond 112, unless I am missing something.

Also:

"Out of necessity (owing to a lack of defensive data in the basic boxscore), individual Defensive Ratings are heavily influenced by the team's defensive efficiency. They assume that all teammates are equally good (per minute) at forcing non-steal turnovers and non-block misses, as well as assuming that all teammates face the same number of total possessions per minute. Perhaps as a byproduct, big men tend to have the best Defensive Ratings...."

What this means is that 6'5 Nesmith's accomplishment is all the more formidable, considering the Pacers were 28th in defense league wide.

It's not. He's negative defensively in both RAPTOR and EPM

[Nomad]

Welp, I must be bored. Too lazy to check or get my head around anything. All I know is Pacers are in a great position. Wonder if they will go for 3-point marksman Grady Dick, considering there are plenty of big man defensive options available with later picks.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by daeve

I'm sure if it's Zion then Portland will add more. If they're keeping Dame and risking it on a run now then might as well. What if the overall package is Simons, Reddish [salary matching], #3, #23 and '25 and '27 1sts?

That's actually a pretty good looking deal for both sides imo.

[Braswell10]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

The Hornets taking Miller over Scoot is just another incompetent move in a long, rich history of them.

I actually disagree. I think Miller is underrated for a #2 overall pick and I could easily see him being better than Scoot. I think both are great prospects.

In this league, a top SF will always be drafted over a top PG prospect.

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by Braswell10

I actually disagree. I think Miller is underrated for a #2 overall pick and I could easily see him being better than Scoot. I think both are great prospects.

In this league, a top SF will always be drafted over a top PG prospect.

With all due respect, I would not want to be on the side of the Charlotte Hornets when it comes to talent analysis.

[jcardstore]

Miller looked horrible in the tourney. Didn't see anything from him that would make me think star potential.

[indyguy]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Welp, I must be bored. Too lazy to check or get my head around anything. All I know is Pacers are in a great position. Wonder if they will go for 3-point marksman Grady Dick, considering there are plenty of big man defensive options available with later picks.

Rumors last week that Pacers going to trade 7 for a wing...OG's name was brought up. I hope it isn't true. I'd hate to trade for an injury prone player again.