First Buzz: 2021-22 Panini PhotoGenic basketball cards

[phil]

Originally Posted by Nomad

It's a nice set but since its popular I guess Panini will print it to the moon.

Next year maybe. This was 12000-13000 boxes or so.

[phil]

Originally Posted by wxguy44

there is a Giannis Shoe Game insert posted in r/basketballcards

LaMelo on ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/39413251469...oAAOSwi85itl9b

[meltedvanilluxe]

Hits from my 6 boxes. Pretty satisfied. Cracked ice looks better in person. Definitely putting together a binder of the base set at some point.




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[casebreaksllc]

Originally Posted by Pathora

1 Numbered Base per box = 12040 boxes total (no idea if insert numbered would add to total, haven't seen any pulled yet).

Would place it at 860 cases.

Getting a numbered RC auto is about 3.6% chance, or 51% in case.

Going to guess dual autos are 1:2 cases, would put the average estimated print run at 43 each. Would guess some are more and like Curry/Durant are less.

there is numbered inserts in this as well, so that will add a little.

i have done two cases so far, both had 1 numbered auto and a 1/1. didn't hit a dual in either.

[Pathora]

Originally Posted by casebreaksllc

there is numbered inserts in this as well, so that will add a little.

i have done two cases so far, both had 1 numbered auto and a 1/1. didn't hit a dual in either.

Yeah I didn't know if the insert numbered would add along with a base numbered or not.

Total would now be around 13140 boxes, but I know someone who didn't get a numbered in their box. This is around 940-1000 cases.

I'm also now assuming the dual autos are WAY less than I guessed, more like 10 at most of each. The Shoe Game is probably similar at around 5-10 of each but theres still a lot that hasnt been opened.

[Tallboy]

I may end up really, really loving this set for the emphasis on important moments.

This is a hell of a card:

[illiggle]

Opened my 3 boxes today... best cards:

• Autos: Kuminga, Cade redemp, Ziaire Williams
• RC's: Evan Mobley base & Rookie Focus, Jalen Green Rookie Focus, Josh Giddey base, Jalen Suggs Rookies in Motion
• /75: Isiah Thomas, Caris Levert, Desmond Bane
• Vet Inserts: Giannis Championship Feels, Lebron Pregame, Shaq Unforgettable, Ayton First Night
• Silvers: Dame, Isiah Thomas, Wendell Carter, Anfernee Simons, Jalen Suggs RC, Miles McBride RC

Love this set overall... even the vet cards feel special because of the photos. Feels like so much less fluff than other Panini sets -- the inserts all seem like they mean something and the vast majority of the base set is made up of players who are/were impact players.

The only things I didn't like were rookie auto cards stray from the set design and are boring (and stickers), the upright position of the back of the horizontal cards makes the bottom of the front of the cards face left (why can't they just stay consistent with this???), and the silver parallel is a very boring parallel (could have spiced it up a bit). Oh, and I guess that I also got a lot of 3x of one base card across three boxes but didn't get any of certain vet players but I guess that could just be luck of the draw.

[eastbayak]

How's the quality of the card stock?

Cheap like Donruss? Nicer like something else?

[Pathora]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

How's the quality of the card stock?

Cheap like Donruss? Nicer like something else?

The card stock is actually 55 point. Very good quality to it as well, corners aren't perfect but it doesn't feel cheap. If you plan on ripping this get the right size toploaders.

[detroitbball]

Originally Posted by illiggle

Opened my 3 boxes today... best cards:

• Autos: Kuminga, Cade redemp, Ziaire Williams
• RC's: Evan Mobley base & Rookie Focus, Jalen Green Rookie Focus, Josh Giddey base, Jalen Suggs Rookies in Motion
• /75: Isiah Thomas, Caris Levert, Desmond Bane
• Vet Inserts: Giannis Championship Feels, Lebron Pregame, Shaq Unforgettable, Ayton First Night
• Silvers: Dame, Isiah Thomas, Wendell Carter, Anfernee Simons, Jalen Suggs RC, Miles McBride RC

Love this set overall... even the vet cards feel special because of the photos. Feels like so much less fluff than other Panini sets -- the inserts all seem like they mean something and the vast majority of the base set is made up of players who are/were impact players.

The only things I didn't like were rookie auto cards stray from the set design and are boring (and stickers), the upright position of the back of the horizontal cards makes the bottom of the front of the cards face left (why can't they just stay consistent with this???), and the silver parallel is a very boring parallel (could have spiced it up a bit). Oh, and I guess that I also got a lot of 3x of one base card across three boxes but didn't get any of certain vet players but I guess that could just be luck of the draw.

Maybe a little disappointing to see Cade as redemption just given the fiasco situation right now with Panini and redemptions. If Cade is already a redemption in this product, can we expect that he will also be redemption in future products?

[JAMSC]

Opened 3 boxes.

Autos: Scottie Barnes, Ziaire Williams, and Usman Garuba.

Got a Giddey base, 2 silvers, and a 75th parallel.

75th parallels in other two boxes were Paul George and Charles Barkley

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Pathora

The card stock is actually 55 point. Very good quality to it as well, corners aren't perfect but it doesn't feel cheap. If you plan on ripping this get the right size toploaders.

Thanks for the response. Decided to split a case (rip 1-2 boxes and stash the rest) with another BO member because of your confirmation so greatly appreciate it.

[mccoolio]

The more I keep researching the cards, the more impressed I am with the set.

As mentioned previously, Lebron's Unforgettable insert is a dunk from his first game, KG's base is a photo from his rookie year, you just can't get a lot of these shots, even from sets the year the shot was taken. Love that they dig deep into classic moments in time, this product truly is a treat to rip. Even Larry Bird's base has the quote from Gary Payton where he discussed how Larry could give you buckets any way he wanted to ��

[oldgoldy97]

Despite my box being hot trash the product is pretty nice.

So expect $300 next year.

[cms11]

Originally Posted by meltedvanilluxe

My only main gripe is that the rookie autos should have been vertically. And not just because. There is so much wasted space on the right side of the horizontal autos that it just throws the card off. There’s enough real estate on the card for their “photogenic” photo and the sticker auto beneath them. Hell, the rookie logo, name and team are all vertical. Just a weird but not surprising design choice.


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I'm just going to say it - they look tacky.

[90skid]

In case anyone had not seen or known, the 1/1 Lebron Chalk Toss has been pulled:

[Charismatic44th]

This shoe game insert set will be hard for me to complete if no one seems to be pulling them haha

[90skid]

Originally Posted by detroitbball

Maybe a little disappointing to see Cade as redemption just given the fiasco situation right now with Panini and redemptions. If Cade is already a redemption in this product, can we expect that he will also be redemption in future products?

It would appear they used up the rest of the stickers for the dual autos, as those are live in the product:



Honestly the stickers just ruin it. I'm sure the logistics of getting two athletes to sign these is insanely difficult these days, but still....do them right or don't do them at all.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by 90skid

It would appear they used up the rest of the stickers for the dual autos, as those are live in the product:



Honestly the stickers just ruin it. I'm sure the logistics of getting two athletes to sign these is insanely difficult these days, but still....do them right or don't do them at all.

Agree.

In general, the set photography looks great. But sticker autos are just so lazy. They've delayed everything by what feels like a year. If you're going to do that, at least give us on-card autos!

[JAMSC]

The photos in this set really are awesome. Love that there’s a Vince Carter card from his between the legs dunk in the slam dunk contest!

[Promethius88]

Originally Posted by cms11

I'm just going to say it - they look tacky.

I opened my 3 boxes and did very well with the numbered cards. There isn't much value on the base rookies or other base cards. The autos are not great and unless you get one of the big names or a dual, they are worth maybe 5% of the box cost.

While the photography is nice and the card stock is thicker, I personally don't find anything exciting about this set besides the numbered cards. The silvers don't look as good as the base cards and even the gold cards /10 that aren't the cracked ice looking cards, that I think are only for the inserts, are pretty bland looking as well.

[brock]

The pump is on for this set!

I thought One and One was supposed to feature really cool in game photography... and now this.

Haven't seen a pump like this since Flux.

[bigjbasketball]

Originally Posted by brock

The pump is on for this set!

I thought One and One was supposed to feature really cool in game photography... and now this.

Haven't seen a pump like this since Flux.

Lol what a ridiculous comment. God forbid a few people have a small thread where they can discuss a set that looks good and was well-priced. I don’t think you quite understand what “pump” means if you think that’s what’s happening here.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

Lol what a ridiculous comment. God forbid a few people have a small thread where they can discuss a set that looks good and was well-priced. I don’t think you quite understand what “pump” means if you think that’s what’s happening here.

Pumping up the photography, I guess?

Trying to turn $3 base into $4 base?

Can’t like anything now without being called a pumper even when there’s no evidence of selling.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by brock

The pump is on for this set!

I thought One and One was supposed to feature really cool in game photography... and now this.

Haven't seen a pump like this since Flux.

It isn't a pump. This is just a well designed set that people are appreciating.