Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 10

okumeister · 04-07-2020, 09:41 PM

Posted in the Project 2020 thread under "Topps Now" section too, but I got the Ichiro AP in the mail today.
$99.99 price tag for just the silver frame and hand numbering on back certainly isn't justifiable, but I needed to get this card and glad I was able to do so directly on Topps.com instead of paying triple/quadruple the price in the secondary market.

Ctjwa · 04-07-2020, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by okumeister

Posted in the Project 2020 thread under "Topps Now" section too, but I got the Ichiro AP in the mail today.
$99.99 price tag for just the silver frame and hand numbering on back certainly isn't justifiable, but I needed to get this card and glad I was able to do so directly on Topps.com instead of paying triple/quadruple the price in the secondary market.

I agree with OKU, there is no justification for people to desire the /20's other than we have been programmed into a scarcity mindset by Topps. Forget the silver or gold frame, the entire card is in a "frame" of the one touch.

People are quick to bash the absurdity of art, but here we are complaining because robots beat us to the privilege of paying 5x more for the same thing we could get in unlimited quantity.

And the art is pretty darn cool. Except for oldmanalan who is completely off the reservation with that Gwynn.

blakejamieson · 04-07-2020, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

do you, as the artist, have free range on WHICH Topps cards of those 20 subjects to choose?

Every artist is painting from the same reference cards. So the Jackie cards should all look *kind of* similar.

Eaglesfan371 · 04-07-2020, 10:51 PM

So I just started following this thread and found the checklist with photos online. Some of the first round cards looking amazing, some not. Of course different opinions with everyone.

I do see the first several cards carrying large premiums in the secondary market. I am not too familiar with the art or sketch scene these days but I remember several years ago there were Star Wars sketch artists that always carried huge premiums. Are any of these 20 artists very well known in the sketch community and generally carry premiums?

What players do you all feel will hold investment value? Of course will buy a couple for my personal collection but the 5x premiums I see on the Ichiro already intrigues me.

REGGIE206 · 04-07-2020, 11:02 PM

The 1987 Topps McGwire RC is the card that got me into collecting during my childhood. To me, this Topps Project 2020 McGwire looks horrible.

I should of submitted the drawing I quickly made for my son (for home school art class) not too long ago.. lol.

mwheeler27 · 04-08-2020, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by REGGIE206

The 1987 Topps McGwire RC is the card that got me into collecting during my childhood. To me, this Topps Project 2020 McGwire looks horrible.

I should of submitted the drawing I quickly made for my son (for home school art class) not too long ago.. lol.

Are you saying your art is better than the Project 2020 McGwire art?

yrocks2001 · 04-08-2020, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by REGGIE206

The 1987 Topps McGwire RC is the card that got me into collecting during my childhood. To me, this Topps Project 2020 McGwire looks horrible.

I should of submitted the drawing I quickly made for my son (for home school art class) not too long ago.. lol.

I really like efdot's work on his McGwire but yours shows promise, keep up the work and maybe you can get into Project 3030?

ottobord · 04-08-2020, 10:28 AM

I like the project, my initial reaction to the one card I mostly care about, the Mattingly, was to the reject it, but I'm beginning to like it now.

I do wish Topps gave the artists permission to create something that reminds us of the original with more freedom.

jjj5278 · 04-08-2020, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ottobord

I do wish Topps gave the artists permission to create something that reminds us of the original with more freedom.

Huh? More freedom but reminds us of the original? How much more freedom do you want after seeing the Mattingly? I’m not sure more freedom and familiarity can be used together.

okumeister · 04-08-2020, 11:50 AM

I've said this in the thread before, but people's preference to art is subjective, so it is okay to have different opinions.

But I think the problem is that so many people in here have such narrow view of what a remake of card should be.
The concept of this set is for each artist to re-create/re-imagine the iconic rookie cards, and not draw identical sketch of the original card or create "true to original" artwork of the cards.

I'm not gonna say that all the cards that have come out in the set so far are absolute master works, but Topps is pretty much staying true to its concept of the set, and I'm excited to see the 2 cards that come out each day.

SupermanBrandon · 04-08-2020, 12:05 PM

So when does today's drop?

Comix Guy · 04-08-2020, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

So when does today's drop?

An hour ago.

jjj5278 · 04-08-2020, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Comix Guy

An hour ago.

Nope. They haven’t gone live yet.

SmokeyJ · 04-08-2020, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jjj5278

Nope. They haven’t gone live yet.

Ichiro and Henderson now up.

Joliet Jake · 04-08-2020, 12:55 PM

The Matt Taylor card is exactly what I was hoping for from him. I absolutely love his style!

SupermanBrandon · 04-08-2020, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Joliet Jake

The Matt Taylor card is exactly what I was hoping for from him. I absolutely love his style!

The Henderson is sick. I actually own a couple of Matt's artwork pieces of Back To The Future posters. The Henderson is exactly what I would expect. I cant wait for his others.

UGLI baby · 04-08-2020, 01:02 PM

Both of the ones from today are sick!

Joliet Jake · 04-08-2020, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

The Henderson is sick. I actually own a couple of Matt's artwork pieces of Back To The Future posters. The Henderson is exactly what I would expect. I cant wait for his others.

I own his Star Wars timed print from Bottleneck Gallery released a couple years ago. Just amazing.

ThoseBackPages · 04-08-2020, 01:09 PM

lets see these posters fellas!

Joliet Jake · 04-08-2020, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

lets see these posters fellas!

This is the timed-edition released by Bottleneck Gallery.

Zan · 04-08-2020, 01:15 PM

Rickey is just nasty

SupermanBrandon · 04-08-2020, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

lets see these posters fellas!

My BTTF1 is hanging at my office but this is the image.

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ThoseBackPages · 04-08-2020, 01:18 PM

those are AWESOME!!!!

Joliet Jake · 04-08-2020, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

those are AWESOME!!!!

Matt Taylor is on a whole other level when it comes to his style and execution. He's well known for his MCU prints.

Check out his site for most of his work.
http://www.matttaylor.co.uk

blakejamieson · 04-08-2020, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Joliet Jake

Matt Taylor is on a whole other level when it comes to his style and execution. He's well known for his MCU prints.

Check out his site for most of his work.
http://www.matttaylor.co.uk

Holy crap his work is EPIC! I was at US open and loved that work.

Mad respect.

04-07-2020, 09:41 PM	#226
okumeister Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11,410	Posted in the Project 2020 thread under "Topps Now" section too, but I got the Ichiro AP in the mail today. $99.99 price tag for just the silver frame and hand numbering on back certainly isn't justifiable, but I needed to get this card and glad I was able to do so directly on Topps.com instead of paying triple/quadruple the price in the secondary market. __________________ Mainly collecting Topps Now Collecting following players : Ichiro, Christian Yelich, Noah Syndergaard, Michael Conforto

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REGGIE206 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Mukilteo, WA (hometown: Vallejo, CA) Posts: 9,643	The 1987 Topps McGwire RC is the card that got me into collecting during my childhood. To me, this Topps Project 2020 McGwire looks horrible. I should of submitted the drawing I quickly made for my son (for home school art class) not too long ago.. lol. Last edited by REGGIE206; 04-07-2020 at 11:50 PM.

04-08-2020, 11:50 AM	#235
okumeister Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11,410	I've said this in the thread before, but people's preference to art is subjective, so it is okay to have different opinions. But I think the problem is that so many people in here have such narrow view of what a remake of card should be. The concept of this set is for each artist to re-create/re-imagine the iconic rookie cards, and not draw identical sketch of the original card or create "true to original" artwork of the cards. I'm not gonna say that all the cards that have come out in the set so far are absolute master works, but Topps is pretty much staying true to its concept of the set, and I'm excited to see the 2 cards that come out each day. __________________ Mainly collecting Topps Now Collecting following players : Ichiro, Christian Yelich, Noah Syndergaard, Michael Conforto

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Joliet Jake Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,610 bluesbrother1908 Joliet_Jake	The Matt Taylor card is exactly what I was hoping for from him. I absolutely love his style! __________________ Focused Collecting: Topps MLB Living Set, Brad Kilby, Chris Kinsey, Mike Tonis, Casey Weathers Last edited by Joliet Jake; 04-08-2020 at 01:43 PM. Reason: Image layout

04-08-2020, 01:09 PM	#244
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 88,914 ThoseBackPages	lets see these posters fellas! __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

04-07-2020, 10:51 PM	#229
Eaglesfan371 Banned Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 267	So I just started following this thread and found the checklist with photos online. Some of the first round cards looking amazing, some not. Of course different opinions with everyone. I do see the first several cards carrying large premiums in the secondary market. I am not too familiar with the art or sketch scene these days but I remember several years ago there were Star Wars sketch artists that always carried huge premiums. Are any of these 20 artists very well known in the sketch community and generally carry premiums? What players do you all feel will hold investment value? Of course will buy a couple for my personal collection but the 5x premiums I see on the Ichiro already intrigues me.

04-08-2020, 10:28 AM	#233
ottobord Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 1,752	I like the project, my initial reaction to the one card I mostly care about, the Mattingly, was to the reject it, but I'm beginning to like it now. I do wish Topps gave the artists permission to create something that reminds us of the original with more freedom.

04-08-2020, 12:05 PM	#236
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	So when does today's drop?

04-08-2020, 01:02 PM	#242
UGLI baby Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 2,448 uglibaby	Both of the ones from today are sick!

04-08-2020, 01:15 PM	#246
Zan Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: NY Posts: 1,049 card_soup	Rickey is just nasty __________________ I collect Hank Greenberg.

04-08-2020, 01:18 PM	#248
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 88,914 ThoseBackPages	those are AWESOME!!!! __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards