Galactics are overrated

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by yoyosh

Are baseball Galactics also over rated? LMK if I should just toss this one

Galactics are always underrated. I like how this thread has become the go to Galactic thread lol

[mindcycle]

Originally Posted by tjforce

High? I thought it was low...

At least compared to stuff like Kabooms and Downtowns.

Not talking about price, just the social media pump that is happening right now.

Originally Posted by Pathora

The only counter I have to this is this was literally the first Curry 15/16 Base Galactic listed in years. These don't just pop up compared to things like Kabooms or Color Blasts. If you're looking at any year past the first (maybe the 2nd or 3rd though I admit I'm biased on 16/17) the print runs surely go up.

Yeah I get it. I mean if this is true market value then that's fine, all i'm saying is there's lots of guys pumping these right now.

[kd the sniper]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Since we're discussing the top copy for each of the top guys...my personal favorite Galactic I own:

If only that was a psa 11, you would really be in the $$$

[kd the sniper]

Any love for the 15-16 galactic showstoppers?
I paid up last year to just own one..
Won't grade well, but I am a collector who had to have it
Goals!!

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by kd the sniper

If only that was a psa 11, you would really be in the $$$

Shhh…

You’ll ruin Nat’s big 2022 New Years reveal

[AK9]

This is definitely one of my all time favorite insert sets. Still searching for a BGS 9.5 Rose…




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[bkcardcollector]

He's heating up!

[bberns]

Originally Posted by Pathora

The only counter I have to this is this was literally the first Curry 15/16 Base Galactic listed in years. These don't just pop up compared to things like Kabooms or Color Blasts. If you're looking at any year past the first (maybe the 2nd or 3rd though I admit I'm biased on 16/17) the print runs surely go up.

I actually think the print run was consistent across the first 3-4 years. The first years sell infrequently because group of people own a lot of them and they aren't interested in selling. Others (especially player collectors) recognize they are grails that they will likely never get back.

I do think that the LeBron and Steph sales will bring a few out of hiding. Or at least I'm hoping it will.

[bberns]

Originally Posted by mindcycle

Not talking about price, just the social media pump that is happening right now.



Yeah I get it. I mean if this is true market value then that's fine, all i'm saying is there's lots of guys pumping these right now.

I haven't been on social media much lately, but what do you mean by pumping? People who own Galactics showing off what they own? If so, I wouldn't describe that as pumping. Isn't that the point of Instagram?

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by bberns

I actually think the print run was consistent across the first 3-4 years. The first years sell infrequently because group of people own a lot of them and they aren't interested in selling. Others (especially player collectors) recognize they are grails that they will likely never get back.

I do think that the LeBron and Steph sales will bring a few out of hiding. Or at least I'm hoping it will.

The scarcity of 15-16 is unlike anything else as far as I know. They simply don’t come up for sale. It’s pretty wild. To anyone that thinks the 15-16 Galactics aren’t that special, which cards from 15-16 are better? I’m talking in terms of checking all of the boxes that the hobby has deemed important, not personal preference.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by bberns

I haven't been on social media much lately, but what do you mean by pumping? People who own Galactics showing off what they own? If so, I wouldn't describe that as pumping. Isn't that the point of Instagram?

I was wondering the same thing. I’m not a big social media guy… I use Blowout and have my card account on IG and that’s it. The hype/pumping is endless for all cards on IG. The Revolution chatter stays pretty limited to these types of threads from what I can see. But I may be missing something. I think a lot of collectors are eager to call their shot or like to draw attention to their savvy purchases from way back when, which often blends in with pumping.

[KhalDrogo]

There’s no social media pump going on. A few guys who really like Revolution have posted some stories/posts. They’re members here. They’re not pumpers.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by bberns

I haven't been on social media much lately, but what do you mean by pumping? People who own Galactics showing off what they own? If so, I wouldn't describe that as pumping. Isn't that the point of Instagram?

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

There’s no social media pump going on. A few guys who really like Revolution have posted some stories/posts. They’re members here. They’re not pumpers.

At this point I think a lot of us know who the pumpers are on InstaGram.

There are a few accounts that will start really pushing a card or type of card, then put up a post asking to buy more, all while showing off the stash they already have accumulated.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

The scarcity of 15-16 is unlike anything else as far as I know. They simply don’t come up for sale. It’s pretty wild. To anyone that thinks the 15-16 Galactics aren’t that special, which cards from 15-16 are better? I’m talking in terms of checking all of the boxes that the hobby has deemed important, not personal preference.

The one other set I can think of is 2012 Prizm Gold.

I have a friend who would pay almost any price for a LeBron and still can't get one.

I've tracked down 4 of the other Tom Brady Gold owners. We all chat back and forth and none of us are selling. We are all middle aged collectors who look at this card as their grail and know if we ever sold we'd never be able to get it back. It's might be our one and only chance to own a significant card that not even Nat or any of the other big dogs own.

[mindcycle]

Originally Posted by bberns

I haven't been on social media much lately, but what do you mean by pumping? People who own Galactics showing off what they own? If so, I wouldn't describe that as pumping. Isn't that the point of Instagram?

Yeah you're right, maybe pumping is the wrong word. Posting any card on social media and talking about how great it is could be considered pumping to some degree. We've probably all done it, myself included. That's more what I was getting at, that these cards are showing up in a lot of posts right now.

I'm not trying to say that guys showing off their collection are in any way trying to manipulate the market. It's true that most chatter are just guys who like the set. I did see a post or two saying these are the next PMGs, etc.. which was the basis of my warning from yesterday, but that's likely not the majority of galactic posts on IG atm, so my bad generalizing as I did.

Hive mentality is definitely a thing in this hobby though, so my warning was more or less directed at people looking to potentially drop thousands or tens of thousands on galactics right now may be buying at a high point. That's about it. Sorry if I offended anyone, that wasn't my intent.

[bakelle1]

I’m a bit of a newb, what should be the price difference between a normal rookie galactic and rookie revolution galactic? I bid $950 on a Booker BGS 9.5 Rookie Revolution Galactic last month stupidly not realizing the difference. I couldn’t find any comps and was worried I made a huge mistake, luckily someone topped my bid.

Maybe a better way to put this is how much of a downgrade is the rookie revolution version?

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by bakelle1

I’m a bit of a newb, what should be the price difference between a normal rookie galactic and rookie revolution galactic? I bid $950 on a Booker BGS 9.5 Rookie Revolution Galactic last month stupidly not realizing the difference. I couldn’t find any comps and was worried I made a huge mistake, luckily someone topped my bid.

Maybe a better way to put this is how much of a downgrade is the rookie revolution version?

Not sure there's a clear multiplier - check sold listings to try and figure out a general guide I guess.

The base galactics will be worth more simply because people will say they are the "true" rookie card galactic but Rookie Rev galactics are just as difficult to hit so it's a bit arbitrary.

I actually like some of the Rookie Rev designs more than the base designs some years. 2018-19 in particular.

[cardrcomeback]

What year did they start pumping out more base galactics? It seems like there's a ton from 19-20

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by cardrcomeback

What year did they start pumping out more base galactics? It seems like there's a ton from 19-20

We're not talking Prizm Silver or Mosaic Genesis numbers here, but I think the pop report tells a bit of a story, and that's that they started making more somewhere around 2018:

2016 Ben Simmons has 3 PSA 10s and 1 PSA 9s
2018 Luka Doncic has 5 PSA 10s and 6 PSA 9s
2019 Zion has 5 PSA 10s and 2 PSA 9s

My guess is that the pop went up from the original suspected 13 to 20-30.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by tjforce

We're not talking Prizm Silver or Mosaic Genesis numbers here, but I think the pop report tells a bit of a story, and that's that they started making more somewhere around 2018:

2016 Ben Simmons has 3 PSA 10s and 1 PSA 9s
2018 Luka Doncic has 5 PSA 10s and 6 PSA 9s
2019 Zion has 5 PSA 10s and 2 PSA 9s

My guess is that the pop went up from the original suspected 13 to 20-30.

I was looking at that yesterday too. Comparing it to cubic POP where we know cubic is /50 I'd guess the recent Galactics are /20 or /25.

[Inferno]

This hockey collector has lurked in threads like this for a while and I have to say I’m insanely jealous you guys get to collect cards like this. We had a little taste of Prizm and Select back in 2013-14 before Panini lost the NHL license and ever since I’ve had to live vicariously through basketball (and football) collectors who post cards like these Galactics. I’d do unspeakable things to get licensed Revolution in hockey. Bring back Prizm and Select too. Hell I’d even take Mosaic/Optic/anything shiny.

Stunning cards. Just stunning.

[bberns]

Originally Posted by tjforce

We're not talking Prizm Silver or Mosaic Genesis numbers here, but I think the pop report tells a bit of a story, and that's that they started making more somewhere around 2018:

2016 Ben Simmons has 3 PSA 10s and 1 PSA 9s
2018 Luka Doncic has 5 PSA 10s and 6 PSA 9s
2019 Zion has 5 PSA 10s and 2 PSA 9s

My guess is that the pop went up from the original suspected 13 to 20-30.

I think 20-25 is a fair guess beginning in 2018-19. The pop reports are a bit misleading with a ton of cracking and resubbing. Just about everyone knows what a galactic is, so you better believe that PSA/BGS are touching most or all of the nice ones that have been pulled.

[bberns]

Originally Posted by TSonn

I was looking at that yesterday too. Comparing it to cubic POP where we know cubic is /50 I'd guess the recent Galactics are /20 or /25.

I understand the logic, but the ROI on grading a cubic is so much lower (not saying it should be that way), it's not surprising that a much higher proportion of galactics are getting graded.

[duron]

Originally Posted by mindcycle

Yeah you're right, maybe pumping is the wrong word. Posting any card on social media and talking about how great it is could be considered pumping to some degree. We've probably all done it, myself included. That's more what I was getting at, that these cards are showing up in a lot of posts right now.

I'm not trying to say that guys showing off their collection are in any way trying to manipulate the market. It's true that most chatter are just guys who like the set. I did see a post or two saying these are the next PMGs, etc.. which was the basis of my warning from yesterday, but that's likely not the majority of galactic posts on IG atm, so my bad generalizing as I did.

Hive mentality is definitely a thing in this hobby though, so my warning was more or less directed at people looking to potentially drop thousands or tens of thousands on galactics right now may be buying at a high point. That's about it. Sorry if I offended anyone, that wasn't my intent.

Not that I have some amazing collection, but this is why I hate even writing long descriptions to my posts if it isn’t something technical. You read so many now that come across as if they’ve just acquired the Mona Lisa. Some of that is genuine excitement for finally landing a grail or something from a personally nostalgic set, but other times I can’t even get to the last paragraph before laughing to myself. Shameless posts are comedy central.

[bberns]

Originally Posted by mindcycle

Yeah you're right, maybe pumping is the wrong word. Posting any card on social media and talking about how great it is could be considered pumping to some degree. We've probably all done it, myself included. That's more what I was getting at, that these cards are showing up in a lot of posts right now.

I'm not trying to say that guys showing off their collection are in any way trying to manipulate the market. It's true that most chatter are just guys who like the set. I did see a post or two saying these are the next PMGs, etc.. which was the basis of my warning from yesterday, but that's likely not the majority of galactic posts on IG atm, so my bad generalizing as I did.

Hive mentality is definitely a thing in this hobby though, so my warning was more or less directed at people looking to potentially drop thousands or tens of thousands on galactics right now may be buying at a high point. That's about it. Sorry if I offended anyone, that wasn't my intent.

No worries. I think this happens with virtually any card. I don't mind it, but it is expected at this point. If a first year aurora curry sold for big money (just randomly picking a card), you can bet your bottom dollar that anybody and everybody with a curry aurora (or any star aurora) would be sharing it that week on IG. Viewed through the most charitable lens, it builds a collecting community and establishes bridges between collectors. There are other lenses for sure, but most people are fundamentally decent and well-meaning in my experience.