2019 NBA Lottery - Page 10

Jasondr91 · 05-14-2019, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Adam Silver's slow morph into Gollum has been nothing short of spectacular.

Not bad, but I was thinking the original Dracula, or perhaps Salem’s Lot myself.

yiguiri2002 · 05-14-2019, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SHowley2003

The C's package would likely be Tatum, Smart, Pick 14, Pick 22 and the future Memphis pick. Not sure how that stacks up against other offers. Especially as Tatum is much closer to being due a significant pay day.

I think this draft hurt you guys. Morant and JJJ are building blocks, and couple with whatever they can get for Conley, the Grizzlies might be a decent team when the pick becomes unprotected.

Something tells me Griffin is gonna ask for the farm on AD too. If not, he'll ride it out hoping he sees the potential in Zion.

tolrobb · 05-14-2019, 08:18 PM

after what happened at the end of last season, it is shocking to me that anyone thinks there is even a small chance that AD plays another game as a Pelican.

KhalDrogo · 05-14-2019, 08:18 PM

Hard to figure out how anything is going to go down right now. A lot of change is coming. But you have to think Zion to New Orleans is a guarantee. And that's not good.

asujbl · 05-14-2019, 08:19 PM

Durant to New Orleans

Jrue
Durant
Davis
Zion

That’s pretty good.

Just trade everyone else to clear space

You’re welcome David Griffin

Pathora · 05-14-2019, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

I think this draft hurt you guys. Morant and JJJ are building blocks, and couple with whatever they can get for Conley, the Grizzlies might be a decent team when the pick becomes unprotected.

Something tells me Griffin is gonna ask for the farm on AD too. If not, he'll ride it out hoping he sees the potential in Zion.

Young teams aren't going to make the playoffs in the Western Conference in 2 years.

SHowley2003 · 05-14-2019, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tolrobb

after what happened at the end of last season, it is shocking to me that anyone thinks there is even a small chance that AD plays another game as a Pelican.

Is there some irony to the fact that him dogging it all season actually increased the odds that the Pelicans got the number one overall pick, therefore decreasing the odds that another team would land it an have an easier time trading for him?

yiguiri2002 · 05-14-2019, 08:20 PM

Top of my head, the best offers for AD could be:

Lakers: Kuzma, Ball, Ingram, Hart, #4 pick, future pick
Celtics: Tatum, Brown, Smart, Memphis pick, future pick

I still think the Celtics offer is a little better. But I don't think it'll be enough.

asujbl · 05-14-2019, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pathora

Young teams aren't going to make the playoffs in the Western Conference.

How old do you think Denver is exactly?

The word you want is inexperienced

yiguiri2002 · 05-14-2019, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pathora

Young teams aren't going to make the playoffs in the Western Conference in 2 years.

Decent team doesn't mean playoffs. They could be close to 40 wins and pick 12 or something like that.

ninjacookies · 05-14-2019, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasondr91

Not bad, but I was thinking the original Dracula, or perhaps Salem’s Lot myself.

OG Count...you nailed it.

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

But you have to think Zion to New Orleans is a guarantee. And that's not good.

Don't think it's nearly as bad as people are making it out to be. AD showed that there can be huge money flowing into a Pels prospect. His stuff was as high if not a bit higher than Kyrie out the gate, and key rc's reached some pretty astronomical numbers 2 seasons ago.

SHowley2003 · 05-14-2019, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

I think this draft hurt you guys. Morant and JJJ are building blocks, and couple with whatever they can get for Conley, the Grizzlies might be a decent team when the pick becomes unprotected.

Something tells me Griffin is gonna ask for the farm on AD too. If not, he'll ride it out hoping he sees the potential in Zion.

It depends on your perspective. I'm a fan who doesn't want AD in Boston. I want them to build through Tatum, Brown and continue to draft. They need to develop their own system and stop chasing these fireworks. I'd love to see them package picks 14, 20 & 22 to move up to the 8-11 range this year, or move some of those picks to teams for future picks.

NinjaJohnny · 05-14-2019, 08:23 PM

Has to be one of the worst landing spots for Zion. Will be interesting to see what happens with the 3 and 4 picks. I would be surprised if both arent dangled in potential trades.

Pathora · 05-14-2019, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Top of my head, the best offers for AD could be:

Lakers: Kuzma, Ball, Ingram, Hart, #4 pick, future pick
Celtics: Tatum, Brown, Smart, Memphis pick, future pick

I still think the Celtics offer is a little better. But I don't think it'll be enough.

You're forgetting Eastern Conference vs Western Conference, and also giving AD exactly what he wants vs telling him to pound sand and have fun in Boston. Ingram has the blood clot issue which is either minor or if he has it again could end his career.

blackbears86 · 05-14-2019, 08:24 PM

I love the bipolar people in this thread:

first few pages: "the NBA is rigging this so LA and the Knicks get picks 1-2!!!!"
Last few pages: "the NBA sucks!!! this is terrible for the hobby" Zion's cards won't be worth anything!!!!!

Can we put the "rigging" argument to bed now?

Springerj23 · 05-14-2019, 08:25 PM

As much as it doesn’t make sense, the Lakers getting AD now with them offering up the 4 in a package of the young guys is a lot more enticing. Probably allows the Lakers to keep Kuzma as well. Pelicans rebuild with nobody older than 24, with a ton of talent and potential. AD is not playing in NO again period, NO WAY!!!

johnyensmith123 · 05-14-2019, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbears86

I love the bipolar people in this thread:

first few pages: "the NBA is rigging this so LA and the Knicks get picks 1-2!!!!"
Last few pages: "the NBA sucks!!! this is terrible for the hobby" Zion's cards won't be worth anything!!!!!

Can we put the "rigging" argument to bed now?

I think it's pretty likely the draft was rigged in some of the previous years, like with Ewing and probably Rose. Maybe not so much anymore after Silver replaced Stern.

alias21 · 05-14-2019, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Top of my head, the best offers for AD could be:

Lakers: Kuzma, Ball, Ingram, Hart, #4 pick, future pick
Celtics: Tatum, Brown, Smart, Memphis pick, future pick

I still think the Celtics offer is a little better. But I don't think it'll be enough.

That would be a horrific trade for Boston.

asujbl · 05-14-2019, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alias21

That would be a horrific trade for Boston.

It’s clearly based on Kyrie being back

Davis, Kyrie, Hayward, Horford and whatever else they have left

packman80 · 05-14-2019, 08:29 PM

So are Suns FO and Suns fans jumping off bridges right now? Go from a top 3 player to pick 6 in a draft that won't probably even have 5 top players to draft?

packman80 · 05-14-2019, 08:29 PM

So now would AD reconsider staying in NO with Zion there and try to make them a contender?

yiguiri2002 · 05-14-2019, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

It’s clearly based on Kyrie being back

Davis, Kyrie, Hayward, Horford and whatever else they have left

Yep. And if you have a guarantee from AD, you do it. But it all depends on Kyrie and his flat earth theories.

Pathora · 05-14-2019, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

How old do you think Denver is exactly?

The word you want is inexperienced

Sorry yeah that's a better word inexperienced, relying on JJJ who played 1/2 a season and Ja Morant/RJ Barrett.

patchgenie · 05-14-2019, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by packman80

So are Suns FO and Suns fans jumping off bridges right now? Go from a top 3 player to pick 6 in a draft that won't probably even have 5 top players to draft?

i could see culver or deandre hunter being a khris middleton type player for them.

gonygo · 05-14-2019, 08:32 PM

Ja= D Lillard hobby wise comes to mind. He’ll be great, but will anyone care??

Comparison for Zion hobby wise now???

05-14-2019, 08:18 PM	#228
tolrobb Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 12,807 Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose!	after what happened at the end of last season, it is shocking to me that anyone thinks there is even a small chance that AD plays another game as a Pelican. __________________ Bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/69440988@N05/albums

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KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,087	Hard to figure out how anything is going to go down right now. A lot of change is coming. But you have to think Zion to New Orleans is a guarantee. And that's not good. __________________ I love PSA!

05-14-2019, 08:19 PM	#230
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,314 ohiosundevils	Durant to New Orleans Jrue Durant Davis Zion That’s pretty good. Just trade everyone else to clear space You’re welcome David Griffin __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

05-14-2019, 08:20 PM	#233
yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 12,346 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	Top of my head, the best offers for AD could be: Lakers: Kuzma, Ball, Ingram, Hart, #4 pick, future pick Celtics: Tatum, Brown, Smart, Memphis pick, future pick I still think the Celtics offer is a little better. But I don't think it'll be enough. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos

05-14-2019, 08:32 PM	#250
gonygo Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: U.S./east coast Posts: 9,349	Ja= D Lillard hobby wise comes to mind. He’ll be great, but will anyone care?? Comparison for Zion hobby wise now??? __________________ To prevent potential problems-I will be more selective with whom I choose to sell to and/or trade with. **Cards posted in the BST section may be listed on Ebay and may be sold before you claim to buy via post or pm. As always-PM works best.

05-14-2019, 08:23 PM	#238
NinjaJohnny Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Ohio Posts: 429	Has to be one of the worst landing spots for Zion. Will be interesting to see what happens with the 3 and 4 picks. I would be surprised if both arent dangled in potential trades.

05-14-2019, 08:24 PM	#240
blackbears86 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: maine Posts: 17,073 blackbears86	I love the bipolar people in this thread: first few pages: "the NBA is rigging this so LA and the Knicks get picks 1-2!!!!" Last few pages: "the NBA sucks!!! this is terrible for the hobby" Zion's cards won't be worth anything!!!!! Can we put the "rigging" argument to bed now?

05-14-2019, 08:25 PM	#241
Springerj23 Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Newburgh, IN Posts: 1,499	As much as it doesn’t make sense, the Lakers getting AD now with them offering up the 4 in a package of the young guys is a lot more enticing. Probably allows the Lakers to keep Kuzma as well. Pelicans rebuild with nobody older than 24, with a ton of talent and potential. AD is not playing in NO again period, NO WAY!!!

05-14-2019, 08:29 PM	#245
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 16,916	So are Suns FO and Suns fans jumping off bridges right now? Go from a top 3 player to pick 6 in a draft that won't probably even have 5 top players to draft?

05-14-2019, 08:29 PM	#246
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 16,916	So now would AD reconsider staying in NO with Zion there and try to make them a contender?