First Buzz: 2019 Topps Series 2 baseball cards

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by oddstuff

The elusive 1/1 Franco must be in that orphan box.

NICE!!! lol

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

for example, I know Golds are back to 1:2 in jumbo and things like Black are back to 1:20; the long odds that were in series 1 jumbos and missing SP are over
but inserts remain tough, some now tougher such as Iconic Cards unless there was odds error

Thanks so much for sharing the info. I know I, for one have been avoiding any jumbos for the past year. Nice to know they aren't the value vaccuum that they have been recently(series 1 and 18 update).

[DJP73]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

for example, I know Golds are back to 1:2 in jumbo and things like Black are back to 1:20; the long odds that were in series 1 jumbos and missing SP are over
but inserts remain tough, some now tougher such as Iconic Cards unless there was odds error

Thanks for the Update, I bought both Jumbo and Hobby this time just to be safe. I usually only do Jumbo, Much easier to break time wise.

[kyle1707]

Originally Posted by DJP73

Thanks for the Update, I bought both Jumbo and Hobby this time just to be safe. I usually only do Jumbo, Much easier to break time wise.

I know hobby went from 36 packs to 24

Anyone remember how many base sets can be made from case of hobby

[nera20]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

I know hobby went from 36 packs to 24

Anyone remember how many base sets can be made from case of hobby

i think my friend said like 9 or so

[kyle1707]

Originally Posted by nera20

i think my friend said like 9 or so

Thanks

[Cardsfan84]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

I know hobby went from 36 packs to 24

Anyone remember how many base sets can be made from case of hobby

I thought series 1 was closer to 11.

[Ajax1723]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

I know hobby went from 36 packs to 24

Anyone remember how many base sets can be made from case of hobby

I calculated 3600 base per hobby case. (24 packs + 12.5 base per pack + 12 boxes per case).

Perfect collation would say 10.2 sets, so 8 or 9 sounds right.

[Cardsfan84]

Originally Posted by Ajax1723

I calculated 3600 base per hobby case. (24 packs + 12.5 base per pack + 12 boxes per case).

Perfect collation would say 10.2 sets, so 8 or 9 sounds right.

Maybe Jumbo was exactly 11. One of the two was in series 1. Odds may change that of course.

[brentandbecca]

Master sets look to be even larger than S1, as Faces of Franchise apparently is in hobby, not just retail...plus a gary vee insert set???
no mention on mlb show codes this year, so those may be retired, hmmm

edit:
also, it appears ALL insert odds have changed in both hobby & jumbo
inserts are tough, but some are more tough in jumbo than hobby and some are more tougher in hobby than jumbo
master sets will be more difficult to make than S1 for both hobby & jumbo

[Ajax1723]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

Master sets look to be even larger than S1, as Faces of Franchise apparently is in hobby, not just retail...plus a gary vee insert set???
no mention on mlb show codes this year, so those may be retired, hmmm

That would be a major bummerrrrrrrrr, i liked using those codes.

Do you happen to know the odds of color in hobby? Did it get harder since Jumbo got easier?

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by Ajax1723

That would be a major bummerrrrrrrrr, i liked using those codes.

Do you happen to know the odds of color in hobby? Did it get harder since Jumbo got easier?

yes, despite s2 production being roughly 50% of s1, the odds are longer for hobby and jumbo much easier

[Ajax1723]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

yes, despite s2 production being roughly 50% of s1, the odds are longer for hobby and jumbo much easier

Of course they are haha. Thanks for the info Brent.

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

yes, despite s2 production being roughly 50% of s1, the odds are longer for hobby and jumbo much easier

Don’t know why they keep messing with flagship....

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

yes, despite s2 production being roughly 50% of s1, the odds are longer for hobby and jumbo much easier

i have to think they ran up production on S2 knowing the RC content

[premium1981]

What was last years print run? Anyone remember?

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i have to think they ran up production on S2 knowing the RC content

actually, based on the odds, both JUMBO and HOBBY are lower produced than last year
not sure about what that means for retail, but odds are significant improvement

also, heard silver packs may have a new color added for S2 and Update

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

actually, based on the odds, both JUMBO and HOBBY are lower produced than last year
not sure about what that means for retail, but odds are significant improvement

also, heard silver packs may have a new color added for S2 and Update

very interesting!

Thanks Brent

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

very interesting!

Thanks Brent

at least with the info I do have, every odd is WAY better than series 1 2019, and even significantly better than 2018 s2!!
plus stuff that was not on sell sheet or checklist and new parallels too for silver packs and insert cards (they brought back blue/black/gold for the insert cards that were in 2018 releases, so it's not just 150th parallel only now)

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

at least with the info I do have, every odd is WAY better than series 1 2019, and even significantly better than 2018 s2!!
plus stuff that was not on sell sheet or checklist and new parallels too for silver packs and insert cards (they brought back blue/black/gold for the insert cards that were in 2018 releases, so it's not just 150th parallel only now)

when was the last time a S2 release was this "good" when it comes to RC content?

i cannot think of one from the modern era

[mwash1983]

Why look for vlad jr when the guy people should be chasing is Tatis Jr.

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by mwash1983

Why look for vlad jr when the guy people should be chasing is Tatis Jr.

well b/c VG is an sp, but tatis...yes, lots of nice parallels

[ThoseBackPages]

and PETE!

[anusinha]

Man, the AL crop of RCs this year is weak. Vlad has hype but not the performance (yet).

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by premium1981

What was last years print run? Anyone remember?

Based on my records 2018 series 2 was 2600 hobby cases and 3800 jumbo cases.