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Old 02-14-2017, 11:52 AM   #226
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He's been their second best player this season. For real.
I agree that this is his best season as a Cav, but I could never put him over lebron and Kyrie. To each their own though
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Old 02-14-2017, 11:52 AM   #227
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Don't get me wrong i'm happy. It really wasn't much to give up. Still hoping we can find someone to offload Demarre Carroll on. Best part of this move is it gets PPatt onto the bench where he's super effective, and puts Norman Powell back into the rotation. Not a bad starting line up.

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The Raptors have the most solid 1 to 9 rotation for the playoffs. Who's their worst player, Cory Joseph? Great trade for them.
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Old 02-14-2017, 11:56 AM   #228
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Just an FYI the pick Raptors gave up is the Clippers pick they got from Milwaukee in the Greivis Vasquez for Norman Powell deal. Thank you Milwaukee!
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Old 02-14-2017, 11:59 AM   #229
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The Raptors have the most solid 1 to 9 rotation for the playoffs. Who's their worst player, Cory Joseph? Great trade for them.
Bench.

C - Lucas Nogueria/Jacob Poeltl
F - Patrick Patterson/Pascal Siakam/Jarod Sullinger
G - Cory Joseph/Norman Powell/Fred VanVleet
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:00 PM   #230
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Delon is really good an VanVleet seems to have passed him on the depth chart. But with that said Masai is going to be reluctant to let him go until/when he resigns Lowry in the Offseason. Once Lowry resigns i expect either Wright or Cory Joseph to be traded.
I like Delon a lot. Was good in limited time as a rookie last year, rated out really well by a lot of analytics going into the draft. A shame he got hurt, may have solidiied himself by now. I'd be beyond thrilled if he was the Wizards backup PG right now over Burke lol. He will be a bargain pickup for whoever trades for him if it happens.

I just feel like the Raptors have a lot to figure out with their young players, many of which I happen to like a lot. Siakam, Poeltl, Van Fleet, Powell... Just not enough minutes to go around. At least now they opened up a slot for Powell.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:02 PM   #231
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Bench.

C - Lucas Nogueria/Jacob Poeltl
F - Patrick Patterson/Pascal Siakam/Jarod Sullinger
G - Cory Joseph/Norman Powell/Fred VanVleet
With the most underrated superstar n the league leading their team..... look out. Toronto is coming.

For the first time since the KG/RAY/PP good days, I'm excited for the EC playoffs. Between Boston and Toronto.... man. This race to the playoffs is going to be fun.

Need Ibaka to integrate well. That's a huge IF.... but if it happens...... get giddy.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:08 PM   #232
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I agree that this is his best season as a Cav, but I could never put him over lebron and Kyrie. To each their own though
Yeah he has played well but still not on Kyrie or Lebrons level yet.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:17 PM   #233
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Just an FYI the pick Raptors gave up is the Clippers pick they got from Milwaukee in the Greivis Vasquez for Norman Powell deal. Thank you Milwaukee!
Do you know if Milwaukee put any sort of protection on that pick in the initial trade? If not, that could be another lottery pick for Orlando.

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Found the answer. The pick is lottery protected through 2019.

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Old 02-14-2017, 12:17 PM   #234
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Cavs are just having a tough season with injuries. JR out most of the season, Shump has been out, Love is now out until the playoffs.
Yeah it has been rough, but everyone should be good to go come post season. With the additions of Korver and Williams plus still the potential for another pickup to fill backup PG, I am not worried in the slightest. Lebron always flips the switch for the post season. I remember when ATL destroyed Cavs in the regular season and everyone thought ATL was going to give Cavs trouble in the playoffs... and then got swept I believe.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:18 PM   #235
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Great trade for Toronto in my mind. I seriously think they could win the East now.

Orlando starts the re-building process every two years. Such a mess of a franchise.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:22 PM   #236
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Great trade for Toronto in my mind. I seriously think they could win the East now.

Orlando starts the re-building process every two years. Such a mess of a franchise.
Saw this tweet and it's pretty spot on...

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Old 02-14-2017, 12:23 PM   #237
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Do you know if Milwaukee put any sort of protection on that pick in the initial trade? If not, that could be another lottery pick for Orlando.

EDIT: Found the answer. The pick is lottery protected through 2019.
It's going to end up the lower of this years Raptors pick or this years LAC pick. They're currently 22 and 24.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:27 PM   #238
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No it wont. 0% chance Melo ends up in Cleveland. It would be a death sentence for the franchise and Grif isn't that dumb
Sorry, but LeBron is the one pushing the buttons there.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:44 PM   #239
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Knicks i'm sure would only take Love back for Melo but not now.
Did Kevin Love die? That sucks...

He's out 6 weeks. The Knicks season is over. Kevin Love will still be underpaid for the next 3 years. Kevin Love will still be younger than Carmelo. Carmelo and the Knicks (or at least Phil) are still a cluster. That's what you acquire him. Not because Kevin Love helps you win 2016.

Knicks could offer Carmelo right now and the Cavs still say no. Nothing changed. It's 6 weeks.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:58 PM   #240
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Did Kevin Love die? That sucks...

He's out 6 weeks. The Knicks season is over. Kevin Love will still be underpaid for the next 3 years. Kevin Love will still be younger than Carmelo. Carmelo and the Knicks (or at least Phil) are still a cluster. That's what you acquire him. Not because Kevin Love helps you win 2016.

Knicks could offer Carmelo right now and the Cavs still say no. Nothing changed. It's 6 weeks.

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Old 02-14-2017, 01:02 PM   #241
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Yeah he has played well but still not on Kyrie or Lebrons level yet.
Love has had more WS/48 than Kyrie each of the last two seasons. For one, y'all don't understand just how bad Kyrie is on defense.
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Old 02-14-2017, 01:23 PM   #242
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Love has had more WS/48 than Kyrie each of the last two seasons. For one, y'all don't understand just how bad Kyrie is on defense.
Kyrie also missed like the first 4 months of the season last year. Love is not much, if any better on D than Kyrie. Both have improved though. Love is solid for the team now don't get me wrong. But Kyrie is far more important to winning than Love. I would keep Kyrie over Love all day. Kyrie is also clutch when it counts, whereas Love tends to fall off in the post season.

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Hopefully this means powell will break out officially since he should get a consistant 15-20 min a game without ross there

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Only if there are enough shots to go around
Yeah i mentioned its tough to say in another thread cuz derozan typically dominates the opportunities that powell would get.. but ross managed to get a lot of looks so id assume it powell takes over his spot he will be asked to take a lot more 3s and have the opportunities.

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Ownership has given #Cavs green light to increase payroll/tax, per AmicoHoops source. Team said to be working on several trade possibilities
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I'm going to die before Okafor gets traded
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Old 02-15-2017, 06:42 PM   #248
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Pistons are gauging interest on Reggie Jackson and Andre Drummond.
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Pistons are gauging interest on Reggie Jackson and Andre Drummond.
I would love to have Drummond on the Pelicans Him and AD would be awesome together
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Lmao i was going to jokingly say lebron is gona want drummond now that love is down.. watch that happen..

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