Rare basketball cards inserted into product releasing at this year's National:

[Round Mound]

Originally Posted by motu79

4) As I mentioned in #1, SportKings was never really a popular/mainstream set, and the people that were busting it, knew you were the go-to guy for any 1/1's from this product. Therefore, there is no way you or anyone knows the 'value' of these cards since you have been the only buyer of them. (this is probably something you've heard multiple times already)

I beg to differ.

[ReggieEvansPC]

Originally Posted by WHLR Collection

"Horrible"? Hmmm.....

Would you call the following "horrible"? Seriously, I really want to know. Are they "horrible"?

And the patches...would you call this horrible?

But you guys also made fun of even more sports in this basketball thread, and that's definitely fine as I appreciate ALL feedback, but are these really "horrible"?

Yes. They are horrible. Really horrible.

[Packerfan]

History is history, autos are autos. I would take a non-licensed crazy patch card (like the Barkley) over a one color seen-it-a-million times before licensed card. Nice set. And yes, I'll take the Jordan PSA 9 please

[polarbear]

those are awesome cards, wow

[WHLR Collection]

Originally Posted by ReggieEvansPC

Yes. They are horrible. Really horrible.

LOL! I would guess many don't agree with you concerning those cards, fortunately for this product. Thank you for expressing your opinion though.

[ronaldo943]

These are horrible. This product makes PR look good.

[WHLR Collection]

Originally Posted by ronaldo943

These are horrible. This product makes PR look good.

Then I am either doing PR a favor, or others will disagree with you, as I just don't think these are "horrible":

Thank you for your opinion though.

[ronaldo943]

How about the horrible art that absolutely ruins this product. Or the "SK" logo 1/1? Heck the "Wheeler Collection" on the BGS label lowers the value on it's own. And I think most will agree with me that this is a terrible product.

[ronaldo943]

It's awesome that you want to try something "new" but filling a product with unlicensed cards isn't the way to go.

[Round Mound]

Originally Posted by ronaldo943

It's awesome that you want to try something "new" but filling a product with unlicensed cards isn't the way to go.

You can hate the design, but I don't understand the licensed vs unlicensed debate. We are all witnesses of what Panini can do with a licence (manufactured patches and logomen, sticker autographs, swapping between autographs, etc)....

I agree that SK products lack foil and other things, but there are still cards which are very eye-pleasing.

[paul06901]

Did these card all come from Mwheeler's collection?

What I don't understand is, how is this a "product" ? Isn't it just a buyback of all SK cards and throw in a few MJ rookies? I bet mj23hk could make a re-pack product of Panini Paramount from the 20 cases he broke.


This just isn't original in any sense. At least Leaf has some original content. This is all just bought-back second-hand cards.

And while authentic, the unlicensed cards are less desirable by-far compared to licensed cards. I think we all know that. And the designs/artwork on the SK cards are pretty awful, there is just no denying that.

With that said, of course those are some nice 1/1 cuts. But why would anyone buy this product and not just by a box of SK? I understand that some of these cards aren't easily attainable, but I'm assuming (with the prices you paid to acquire the cards) either the product cost will be super high, or the case production will be super high in order for you to make a sizeable profit.

Also, we know nothing about cost? (unless I missed that somewhere)



I honestly think you would have been better off imitating the Leaf BEST OF product and put a twist on that somehow (even without the original content cards)

[paul06901]

Originally Posted by Round Mound

You can hate the design, but I don't understand the licensed vs unlicensed debate. We are all witnesses of what Panini can do with a licence (manufactured patches and logomen, sticker autographs, swapping between autographs, etc)....

I agree that SK products lack foil and other things, but there are still cards which are very eye-pleasing.

People collect a player, sometimes because of the team. When you don't have the team logo on the card it's aesthetically unpleasing to most.

There's no denying the quality of the memorabilia/signature ... but sloppy artwork, gawdy coloring, and poor designs combined with the lack of logos are not appealing to most collectors when compared to licensed, major-branded products.

[WHLR Collection]

Originally Posted by ronaldo943

How about the horrible art that absolutely ruins this product. Or the "SK" logo 1/1? Heck the "Wheeler Collection" on the BGS label lowers the value on it's own. And I think most will agree with me that this is a terrible product.

Not all the art is horrible and detrimental to this product. The haters are wanting to judge the whole on some of the few.

The "SK" logo cards have been very popular in the past. I have lost several auctions to people wanting to add to their player-collections with those.

Again, if you don't like the slabbed label(s), that can easily be changed. It's not something that's that devastating.

Originally Posted by ronaldo943

It's awesome that you want to try something "new" but filling a product with unlicensed cards isn't the way to go.

Most of these cards are licensed. Most of them have been licensed by the players themselves, not some all-encompassing entity.

Logoless, yes. Unlicensed in every sense, not even close.

I know some people appreciate that the players themselves gave their permission to SK to make most of these cards.

[WHLR Collection]

Originally Posted by paul06901

What I don't understand is, how is this a "product" ? Isn't it just a buyback of all SK cards and throw in a few MJ rookies? I bet mj23hk could make a re-pack product of Panini Paramount from the 20 cases he broke.

Making a repack product isn't as easy as you think if you think someone can break 20 cases of something and simply repack them.

I know not all information has been given out yet, but each of my boxes will contain 10 cards. One of them will be a 1/1. Two of them will be non-1/1s. Seven of them will be original content. So 70% of this product will be original content, and to my knowledge, that's never been done before in a repack-type product.

[paul06901]

Originally Posted by WHLR Collection

Making a repack product isn't as easy as you think if you think someone can break 20 cases of something and simply repack them.

I know not all information has been given out yet, but each of my boxes will contain 10 cards. One of them will be a 1/1. Two of them will be non-1/1s. Seven of them will be original content. So 70% of this product will be original content, and to my knowledge, that's never been done before in a repack-type product.

I think this is very important information to make public before you begin to market the product, especially on here.

There's going to be a ton of skepticism around new re-pack products after the whole PR debacle. Hopefully your product delivers value and transparency.

So Mwheeler was up to something buying all those SK cards all the time ... and now your username make sense!

[ronaldo943]

(Serious question) Why would anyone buy this product when they can buy 32 boxes of SportKings Series F for less?

[Round Mound]

Originally Posted by WHLR Collection

I know not all information has been given out yet, but each of my boxes will contain 10 cards. One of them will be a 1/1. Two of them will be non-1/1s. Seven of them will be original content. So 70% of this product will be original content, and to my knowledge, that's never been done before in a repack-type product.

Will you give us a glimpse of this original content? (will there be any Sir Charles?)

[Boo]

Originally Posted by ronaldo943

(Serious question) Why would anyone buy this product when they can buy 32 boxes of SportKings Series F for less?

(Serious answer) Maybe because none of the cards listed are available in SK Series F.

[thetruefinale2]

Originally Posted by nameanking

What's with Jordans Mustache??? Lololololololol
Looks like Karl Malone

THANK YOU! I think he looks like a cross between Karl Malone and Steve Harvey.

[ballislife123]

Whose roman? Is that supposed to be Rodman...

[cyndeeg3]

I wish those SK cards weren't so ugly, seems like a nice concept but they FUGLY

[Round Mound]

Any new scans? Will we get previews of the original cards in this product?

[cniel2924]

I love that pistol Pete ��

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by ronaldo943

These are horrible. This product makes PR look good.

While I'm not an avid supporter of repack products........GTFO with this comment. I'm pretty sure PR had his cases at $8,000 and boxes at $3000. In addition, there really was nothing original about it. Just repacked graded sh*t from a product that he f*!ked up ordering too much of.

[stevev26]

Originally Posted by ballislife123

Whose roman? Is that supposed to be Rodman...

Dennis Rooman?



Couple suggestions/comments/questions.

1. Why do some cards have actual photos and some have the artwork? The actual photos would be a lot better on them.

2. Of course no one is going to complain about a Jordan rookie. It's the one card that isn't SK.

3. The jumbo patches would look much better with a picture of the person on them instead of tiny silhouettes of people playing that sport.

4. Why do some cards have the players first and last names, but some just have the last names?

Example Here.. Some people are going to have no idea who that is. I mean, I think it's Magic Johnson. Or at least I hope so.