Is 2015 Topps Tribute the biggest production blunder ever by Topps?

[13goyankees13]

Not only are the autos streaky, they have a bunch of grey cards signed in grey. Topps made multiple huge mistakes with this. I'm guessing that the streaks are a combination of multiple mistakes.

[Davesportscards]

Originally Posted by jmscoggin

That is indeed the word I heard. I thought it was just a mumbled 'Staedtler'. Are these other pens not good? Do you really think they are the issue and not the card surface? Even for Topps, I can't imagine they would screw with such an important part of the business without being sure it wasn't going to be a problem. They've proven me wrong many times before though.



I agree Dave, it doesn't look like a stacking issue. It looks as if the ink isn't adhering to the card surface.

They must have used a different "glossy layer" for this years cards.

[OscarOne]

What I think is funny that despite the cards looking like total crap, people are still bidding them up. Why would you want something like this even in your collection? I think this sums up why Topps gets away with this...they shovel garbage out, and collectors dutifully gobble them up.

But they have logos! And team names! So they are still better than Panini and Leaf! Right!? Right?!

Also: national treasures had this problem too--trying to find flawless autographs there is not always easy on certain cards--but nothing like this.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by OscarOne

What I think is funny that despite the cards looking like total crap, people are still bidding them up. Why would you want something like this even in your collection? I think this sums up why Topps gets away with this...they shovel garbage out, and collectors dutifully gobble them up.

But they have logos! And team names! So they are still better than Panini and Leaf! Right!? Right?!

Also: national treasures had this problem too--trying to find flawless autographs there is not always easy on certain cards--but nothing like this.

I don't think people are paying close enough attention to the photo detail. I'd be so afraid to bust this and sell it on eBay. I suspect there will be returns aplenty with this product. What a disaster for Topps, seems like their high-end products suffer from defects more than they should.

[death2redemptions]

Originally Posted by OscarOne

What I think is funny that despite the cards looking like total crap, people are still bidding them up. Why would you want something like this even in your collection? I think this sums up why Topps gets away with this...they shovel garbage out, and collectors dutifully gobble them up.

But they have logos! And team names! So they are still better than Panini and Leaf! Right!? Right?!

Also: national treasures had this problem too--trying to find flawless autographs there is not always easy on certain cards--but nothing like this.

Just you wait, there are going to be a ton of returns after people receive their cards and see them in person.

[jmscoggin]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

I don't think people are paying close enough attention to the photo detail. I'd be so afraid to bust this and sell it on eBay. I suspect there will be returns aplenty with this product. What a disaster for Topps, seems like their high-end products suffer from defects more than they should.

I can't recall any issues with Museum, Five Star has been solid since the chipping of 2012, Dynasty wasn't my cup of tea but they seemed to have pulled it off as far as from a QC perspective.

This problem is bad regardless of price level and I'm really surprised that they didn't do something to fix it when the first few batches of autos came back and there was an obvious problem. Pushing the product back a month or two but fixing it would have been far better than releasing it like this.

[PadresFan86]

Anybody notice the sellers on Ebay selling these crappy autos are posting deceptive pics instead of nice scans?

[Ty Hope]

Imagine pulling those Griffey golds /10 and seeing the auto...

[speedyjg13]

Originally Posted by PadresFan86

Anybody notice the sellers on Ebay selling these crappy autos are posting deceptive pics instead of nice scans?

I didn't even notice this product was released until all the fuss was made here about the quality. I just did an eBay search and did see some very deceptive pics where sellers are using dark backgrounds on the acetate autos so the auto stands out and some pics using sneaky angles to make the card look better, kinda like girls do on their selfies.

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by PadresFan86

Anybody notice the sellers on Ebay selling these crappy autos are posting deceptive pics instead of nice scans?

I see ONE seller who had a few angular pics. The rest are normal scans. I understand this situation sucks, but don't pour salt in the wound by acting like selling these autographs is unethical. I have all of mine posted with two disclaimers on condition and large, clear scans. I can't sit on 2K worth of cards just because some people are mad about the condition. I think most of us sellers are trying our best here to show the truth and let the buyer decide how much they are willing to pay despite the defects.

[jlzinck]

Pffffffffffffffffffft.

I got all those crappy autos beat to hell....

[Cubfan86]

Not all the Autos are smudged. Everyone needs to remember that before they accidentally stab someone with their pitchforks!!!!!!!!

We have had 4 boxes opened and only 2 or 3 Autos had light streaks or missing pieces.

[OscarOne]

Double post for some reason...

[OscarOne]

Originally Posted by Cubfan86

Not all the Autos are smudged. Everyone needs to remember that before they accidentally stab someone with their pitchforks!!!!!!!!

We have had 4 boxes opened and only 2 or 3 Autos had light streaks or missing pieces.

Looking at eBay I think that while its fair to say "not all", "most" is very much in play. Like 80%.

And some that are not smudged just look dumb as hell. That Koufax\Kershaw dual auto makes me sad.

[metsplaya123]

Originally Posted by Cubfan86

Not all the Autos are smudged. Everyone needs to remember that before they accidentally stab someone with their pitchforks!!!!!!!!

We have had 4 boxes opened and only 2 or 3 Autos had light streaks or missing pieces.

Only ehhh? Shouldn't be any smudged

[Zoop]

Originally Posted by metsplaya123

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cubfan86

Not all the Autos are smudged. Everyone needs to remember that before they accidentally stab someone with their pitchforks!!!!!!!!

We have had 4 boxes opened and only 2 or 3 Autos had light streaks or missing pieces.

Only ehhh? Shouldn't be any smudged

This all day. "Only 10 parts are malfunctioning on your new car, stop complaining."


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[PadresFan86]

Originally Posted by Zoop

This all day. "Only 10 parts are malfunctioning on your new car, stop complaining."


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LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by metsplaya123

Only ehhh? Shouldn't be any smudged

Originally Posted by Zoop

This all day. "Only 10 parts are malfunctioning on your new car, stop complaining."

You guys are missing the point. Topps hasn't yet given shops/distributors/consumers an "out" here. Those of us who have product are making the best of a bad situation. What if Topps does nothing and it rolls into a 2-3 year class action suit? Are we all supposed to sit on our product because Blowout members who have NO vested interest have been very vocal about an issue that doesn't even affect them?? We should have a separate thread ONLY for people with a vested interest in 2015 Tribute. That would be far more productive than the eventual 20 pages of venting by people who weren't even planning on buying Tribute.

[death2redemptions]

Originally Posted by Cubfan86

Not all the Autos are smudged. Everyone needs to remember that before they accidentally stab someone with their pitchforks!!!!!!!!

We have had 4 boxes opened and only 2 or 3 Autos had light streaks or missing pieces.

Well I guess if there are some cases where less than 15% of the autos are smudged instead of more than half the entire case then I suppose there is no reason to bring out the pitchforks.

(sarcasm brah)

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

You guys are missing the point. Topps hasn't yet given shops/distributors/consumers an "out" here. Those of us who have product are making the best of a bad situation. What if Topps does nothing and it rolls into a 2-3 year class action suit? Are we all supposed to sit on our product because Blowout members who have NO vested interest have been very vocal about an issue that doesn't even affect them?? We should have a separate thread ONLY for people with a vested interest in 2015 Tribute. That would be far more productive than the eventual 20 pages of venting by people who weren't even planning on buying Tribute.

I think you are missing the point. These companies are putting out garbage release after release. No checklists, jacking up presale prices, attempting to "assist" group breakers, an 80 player prospect checklist, damaged autograph cards, holding back key inserts, fake game used jerseys, stupid frackin points programs and now smeared autographs? GTFO, enough is enough but there will always be someone that thinks it'll all be ok. Were you not concerned about the three smeared autos? Let me guess, they were autographs of a AAA player so it didn't matter, right? Yeah, Topps Tribute $200 plus per box, yee haaa!

[Bob Loblaw]

Don't know if this was posted or not... If it was, my apologies.

[HeritageKing]

The way I see it, the problem was with the cards, not guys smudging them. Topps makes a bunch of products a year and this situation is rare. It just appears that the type of card used didn't allow the ink to dry in time. I don't know how anyone can just say that this was athletes not letting the cards sit for a minute. This is a problem with almost all the cards. Topps has to take the blame for it.

[Zoop]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

You guys are missing the point. Topps hasn't yet given shops/distributors/consumers an "out" here. Those of us who have product are making the best of a bad situation. What if Topps does nothing and it rolls into a 2-3 year class action suit? Are we all supposed to sit on our product because Blowout members who have NO vested interest have been very vocal about an issue that doesn't even affect them?? We should have a separate thread ONLY for people with a vested interest in 2015 Tribute. That would be far more productive than the eventual 20 pages of venting by people who weren't even planning on buying Tribute.

While I don't often bust Tribute, I buy singles all the time from it. Proof in the pudding.

[NCinCT]

The simple experiment would be to take one of the cards and try to write with that same marker they suggested and then try the one they used in previous years. This would tell us if it was the card or the marker not drying sufficiently.

[illadelf]

You know it's bad when a 1/1 Mo goes for $200
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