Don't Kill The Messenger: Rumor about a BO Member At The National - Page 30

MikeWilliamsFan · 08-02-2013, 05:30 PM

Wow never would have thought he was that young

dlab85 · 08-02-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Addison

Well I mean this is "fraud" is it not?

Do you have any idea how many bad checks were written over the course of my time owning a liquor store? potentially hundreds. Do you know how many were ever prosecuted? 0. This guy isn't getting prosecuted, especially since nobody actually paid for his fake memorabilia.

I can sign fake autographs on pictures and post them online all day long. As long as nobody buys them from me, I haven't defrauded anybody.

Bottom line: There is zero chance of legal recourse in this case. He will just join the list of blacklisted BO members

cking · 08-02-2013, 05:34 PM

Is a horse an athlete?

statman32 · 08-02-2013, 05:35 PM

He knowingly possessed and attempted to sale a forged instrument. That is a crime that is routinely investigated. Not really comparable to writing a bad check.

statman32 · 08-02-2013, 05:37 PM

It also does not need to be sold in order for you to be convicted.

lazygambler · 08-02-2013, 05:38 PM

Just finished reading this while taking a mike

dlab85 · 08-02-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by statman32

He knowingly possessed and attempted to sale a forged instrument. That is a crime that is routinely investigated. Not really comparable to writing a bad check.

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Originally Posted by statman32

It also does not need to be sold in order for you to be convicted.

Law enforcement would laugh at this, sorry. Bad checks are comparable because somebody is losing money. Writing a bad check is theft and fraud, just as this would have been.

Hell, I had surveillance footage of two jackasses running out of my store with two bottles of Grey Goose, called the police, gave them the car's license plate, they were pulled over an hour later.

You know what the cops said? We couldn't do anything because they didn't have the bottles on them. Did they not at least attempt to steal? Of course they did, and they took the bottles. Probably sold them for 20 bucks on the street and used the money for drugs, but it didn't matter to anyone.

I had all the evidence in the world, and unless we were talking large sums of money, the investigation is going nowhere.

SDcardguy24 · 08-02-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lazygambler

Just finished reading this while taking a mike

Ooosh · 08-02-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dlab85

Law enforcement would laugh at this, sorry. Bad checks are comparable because somebody is losing money. Writing a bad check is theft and fraud, just as this would have been.

Hell, I had surveillance footage of two jackasses running out of my store with two bottles of Grey Goose, called the police, gave them the car's license plate, they were pulled over an hour later.

You know what the cops said? We couldn't do anything because they didn't have the bottles on them. Did they not at least attempt to steal? Of course they did, and they took the bottles. Probably sold them for 20 bucks on the street and used the money for drugs, but it didn't matter to anyone.

I had all the evidence in the world, and unless we were talking large sums of money, the investigation is going nowhere.

You could have brought them to their knees with your booming voice.

usaf010 · 08-02-2013, 05:44 PM

So will there be changes to group submissions now? Anyway we can help prevent this happening in the future? Besides sending it in on my own. I know for some people the group work better?

statman32 · 08-02-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dlab85

Law enforcement would laugh at this, sorry. Bad checks are comparable because somebody is losing money. Writing a bad check is theft and fraud, just as this would have been.

Hell, I had surveillance footage of two jackasses running out of my store with two bottles of Grey Goose, called the police, gave them the car's license plate, they were pulled over an hour later.

You know what the cops said? We couldn't do anything because they didn't have the bottles on them. Did they not at least attempt to steal? Of course they did, and they took the bottles. Probably sold them for 20 bucks on the street and used the money for drugs, but it didn't matter to anyone.

I had all the evidence in the world, and unless we were talking large sums of money, the investigation is going nowhere.

I have worked for both Target and Kroger security and my experiences are vastly different. Perhaps the areas I was in had overzealous police departments or yours did not care.

tajikey · 08-02-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by usaf010

So will there be changes to group submissions now? Anyway we can help prevent this happening in the future? Besides sending it in on my own. I know for some people the group work better?

Use a different host. Ryan (nhsportsguy) is well-respected, and would be a great guy to go through...I believe he even owns his own shop.

In terms of mikec, I did not see this coming...it's gotten to a point where I can't even trust my 3-ply toilet paper to keep my fingers out of my exit only hole.

jumbogorilla · 08-02-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tajikey

Use a different host. Ryan (nhsportsguy) is well-respected, and would be a great guy to go through...I believe he even owns his own shop.

In terms of mikec, I did not see this coming...it's gotten to a point where I can't even trust my 3-ply toilet paper to keep my fingers out of my exit only hole.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

dlab85 · 08-02-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by statman32

I have worked for both Target and Kroger security and my experiences are vastly different. Perhaps the areas I was in had overzealous police departments or yours did not care.

Leaning towards mine didn't care, lol.

Could there be a case against this kid? Sure, he did attempt to defraud a potential buyer

Will there, I don't think so. The court of public opinion has already dropped the hammer on him though.

WCTYSON · 08-02-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tajikey

Use a different host. Ryan (nhsportsguy) is well-respected, and would be a great guy to go through...I believe he even owns his own shop.

In terms of mikec, I did not see this coming...it's gotten to a point where I can't even trust my 3-ply toilet paper to keep my fingers out of my exit only hole.

You do not trust 3-ply?..............Maybe you should not shove your fingers in there.

Try just wiping gentle, cowboy.

oldgoldy97 · 08-02-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tajikey

Use a different host. Ryan (nhsportsguy) is well-respected, and would be a great guy to go through...I believe he even owns his own shop.

In terms of mikec, I did not see this coming...it's gotten to a point where I can't even trust my 3-ply toilet paper to keep my fingers out of my exit only hole.

You can trust me, bro.

Now gift me $20.

dlab85 · 08-02-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ooosh

You could have brought them to their knees with your booming voice.

If I ever find those two losers... lol. I did once tackle a guy who attempted to run away with a 30 pack.

oldgoldy97 · 08-02-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dlab85

If I ever find those two losers... lol. I did once tackle a guy who attempted to run away with a 30 pack.

I thought he was trying to poke you in your six pack....

dlab85 · 08-02-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

I thought he was trying to poke you in your six pack....

Why have a six pack, when you can have a keg?

babyfaceposey · 08-02-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dlab85

If I ever find those two losers... lol. I did once tackle a guy who attempted to run away with a 30 pack.

You hurt my ribs with that tackle.

TheHeel · 08-02-2013, 06:03 PM

I wonder how many people are approaching Mike at The National asking about this......

oldgoldy97 · 08-02-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dlab85

Why have a six pack, when you can have a keg?

dlab85 · 08-02-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

You hurt my ribs with that tackle.

I'm surprised you're still alive

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

I wonder how many people are approaching Mike at The National asking about this......

I had hoped somebody at the national would have already posted about this... Seems nobody is willing to confront him or everyone at the national missed the thread.

TrueNE_09 · 08-02-2013, 06:10 PM

Why not enjoy both a sixer, and a keg, at the same time....

oldgoldy97 · 08-02-2013, 06:13 PM

I sent a text to someone at the Nationals about this little situation but I haven't gotten a response from him yet.

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MikeWilliamsFan Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 10,359 east_coast_prospects kevineck17	Wow never would have thought he was that young

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cking Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 16,263	Is a horse an athlete?

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statman32 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 5,451 statman32	He knowingly possessed and attempted to sale a forged instrument. That is a crime that is routinely investigated. Not really comparable to writing a bad check.

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statman32 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 5,451 statman32	It also does not need to be sold in order for you to be convicted.

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lazygambler Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: boiler room (got a few places) Posts: 5,725	Just finished reading this while taking a mike

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usaf010 Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Spangdahlem AB, Germany Posts: 782 ats010	So will there be changes to group submissions now? Anyway we can help prevent this happening in the future? Besides sending it in on my own. I know for some people the group work better?