First Buzz: 2025-26 Topps Chrome NBA cards

[weatherwarrior]

Originally Posted by Boo

You are one of the few posting your bad boxes, there are tons more silently breaking terrible boxes.

I was at the the lcs today trading in the last of my buybacks for a mega case and 5 loose boxes.

Got the out the door price way down thanks to all the buys backs and made me feel much better about opening. Traded 1500 in buy -backs that I was into for around 700. So I ended up out the door at 1400 for everything..

This to me is the only way to get these. Certainty makes them a much more palatable break.

There was someone there who ripped 15 megas and nothing but a couple Cooper inserts. He had one auto and a advisory of kasparas.

He wasnt one of the regulars and was hoping these at 100 bucks a piece. Regulars get much better pricing at the shop. I guess there are some advantages to buying a lot every year.

Said he was chasing homerun.

So there are plenty of bad rips out there. Watched some people get crushed on hanger box cases while some are completely loaded.

The first 5 megas that I opened from the shop were trash. I should have left them sitting there. But I committed to buying them before I asked the guy how he was doing... oh well win some lose some. I was able to get a bunch of X-fractors to help me gwt close om the set.

The sealed case was much better.

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[weatherwarrior]

Originally Posted by h00perstar34

I will say the ones I got from DSG yesterday were DREADFUL

Out of 20 1 base cooper a few coop inserts and a Beringer RC future stars auto /99 was my only numbered card.

These are Defintely bigtime hit and miss


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I have a friend who ripped 25 from DSG and he said the same thing. He was crushed however, the fanatics hangers he got in he absolutely did great.

Very hit or miss. If you go somewhere and buy 10 and they are good the likelihood the rest are good is high.



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[h00perstar34]

Originally Posted by Braves420

2 Jumbos
3 Hobby Boxes
20ish hangers

1 Base Flagg
1 Prism Flagg
15+ Adol Thiero cards

Amazing how bad Topps collation is (as I view hanger image in forum with at least 2 Flaggs in same pack)

lol I’m still missing 3 for my set. 0 Tate, Clarke, or Lavine but 15 Noa Essingue and almost as many Thiero


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[weatherwarrior]

Originally Posted by h00perstar34

lol I’m still missing 3 for my set. 0 Tate, Clarke, or Lavine but 15 Noa Essingue and almost as many Thiero


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What do you need for your set? Ill send you the missing stuff..

Shoot me a PM.

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[weatherwarrior]

Originally Posted by jkampis

Not to defend the many-billion dollar corporation, but your point is hard to follow.

Perhaps it’s due to your ignorance of the pricing. These megas cost retailers $20-$25 more per box than previous Chrome releases (of baseball, Bowman U football, etc). So Walmart and other retailers are not jacking up the price to make extra profits. They’re making about the same amount per box as other Chrome mega releases by charging $85 (versus $60 for Chrome baseball, for example).

My lcs has been sharing some of the financials with me on what they paid. I have been in talks with them about becoming a partner.

54.99 per mega
34.99 per blaster
250 for hobby, and 475 for jumbo.

This is just what they were paying. They didnt get the option to buy hangers. They bought those after the fact which is why the sell them at 35 each.

Margins for these are about 30%. On the retail side. Obviously they are selling the hobbies and jumbos at secondary pricing.

I wouod imagine these are the same numbers that MJ holdings and other distributors are paying.

Lots of mouths to feed with distributors. And topps set the msrp.

Topps also factors in the buy backs. That is why Topps chrome baseball megas are 40 bucks with an atrocious rookie class outside of a few guys.

Another thing of note people keep saying Topps printed this to the moon and I get that. Yet prizm was printed non stop for several years.... need more prizm???? Change the format.. hobby, fast break, choice, international, plus all the retail sku's.

Unfortunately its the same wolf just a different sheep's clothing.

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[jfan2024]

Originally Posted by weatherwarrior

My lcs has been sharing some of the financials with me on what they paid. I have been in talks with them about becoming a partner.

54.99 per mega
34.99 per blaster
250 for hobby, and 475 for jumbo.

This is just what they were paying. They didnt get the option to buy hangers. They bought those after the fact which is why the sell them at 35 each.

Margins for these are about 30%. On the retail side. Obviously they are selling the hobbies and jumbos at secondary pricing.

I wouod imagine these are the same numbers that MJ holdings and other distributors are paying.

Lots of mouths to feed with distributors. And topps set the msrp.

Topps also factors in the buy backs. That is why Topps chrome baseball megas are 40 bucks with an atrocious rookie class outside of a few guys.

Another thing of note people keep saying Topps printed this to the moon and I get that. Yet prizm was printed non stop for several years.... need more prizm???? Change the format.. hobby, fast break, choice, international, plus all the retail sku's.

Unfortunately its the same wolf just a different sheep's clothing.

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Out of curiosity, how many cases of hobby and jumbo respectively are they allowed to buy at that price? Hopefully it's a lot to justify the other garbage that's forced down their throats by Fanatics

[crownand]

Target online up to 87K+ sold

[weatherwarrior]

Originally Posted by jfan2024

Out of curiosity, how many cases of hobby and jumbo respectively are they allowed to buy at that price? Hopefully it's a lot to justify the other garbage that's forced down their throats by Fanatics

When buying direct from Fanatics/topps its all based on previous years numbers. So for instance they were allowed 5 blaster cases, 5 megas, 2 jumbo and 3 hobby. Then they are allowed to re-up after Topps/fanatics releases the second wave(happened almost instantly).

That re-up order though is at higher than initial release pricing. Pr they have to source things from other locals like BO/ D&A etc...

So every shop i know in my area( there are half dozen) uses D&A or BO for their pricing. If those places are selling at a 200% mark-up so do the shops. My local guys used to employ a 30% margin. But local breakers would buy everything and wipe them out so they had to follow suit with the big boys..

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[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by crownand

Target online up to 87K+ sold

Extremely limited.

[J1L]

Originally Posted by crownand

Target online up to 87K+ sold

If that number is accurate 500k stock won’t last long. Almost 100k sold on target alone? Now imagine Topps at 32 per order plus every other retailer.

[bub838]

Some Targets getting hangers in store this week.

[weatherwarrior]

Originally Posted by estebahn73

Those are not 251 base gold autos. Those are inserts.


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One has surfaced on reddit.


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[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by jfan2024

Supposedly go-time pulsars are only printed to 65. Does it matter though? There are nearly 40k regular go-times of this card, and nearly 5k raywave/refractor parallels of this card

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

That's always the downside with insert parallels unless the base variant was also short printed or whatever.

The market has definitely caught on. I sold my Lebron for $200. Any ones that get listed cheap are being bought immediately.

[mikejones]

Buddy sent me this. I told him I'm good!!

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[J1L]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

The market has definitely caught on. I sold my Lebron for $200. Any ones that get listed cheap are being bought immediately.

LeBron inspirational pulsar listed for $600 on eBay currently.

[Chris P]

So here's a reality check for those who think buying a ton of these is going to result in some guaranteed awesome hits. Breakdown from 32 Hangers from Topps

2 Flagg Base Rookies (One has significant corner damage, so throw that one out)
3 Flagg Base Inserts
1 Flagg Voices Refractor
2 Kon Knueppel Base Rookies
1 Dylan Harper Base Rookie
0 Cedric Coward Base Rookies
0 VJ Edgecombe Base Rookies
0 Shai Base Cards
1 Jokic Base Card (which is moot now, because of the injury)
0 Autos (Should get 2 per case I believe, but 32 didn't yield one)

Parallels
Regular Refractors-Best was a Cedric Coward, rest were crap
Pulsar Refractors-Best was a Cedric Coward, next best was Will Richard and Steph. That's basically it there

Numbered stuff
1 Magenta (/399)-Yves Messi
5 Purple Pulsar (/75)-Tim Hardaway Jr, Bobby Portis, Gary Trent, Rasheer Fleming RC, Will Richard RC
1 Purple Insert-Instinct Noa Essengue (/75)
1 Magenta Insert-Go Time Ja Morant (/399)

Case Hits
2 Fanaticals (Ja Morant, Ace Bailey)

And that's it. Maybe $250 worth of cards if I'm being generous. Sadly, based on comps the Will Richard Purple Pulsar is the 2nd best card of the break behind the Flagg Voices Refractor but I'm skeptical I'll get near those comps. So yeah, Hangers aren't anything special in my opinion. Just another format to get completely destroyed on. The hilarious thing is seeing the troll cards (I.E. Mavericks as the team but it's not Flagg, even in the last box as one last F You, the Purple Pulsar was a Horizontal Bucks card, which Giannis is, but I couldn't even hit that, it was Bobby Portis LOL)

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Chris P

So here's a reality check for those who think buying a ton of these is going to result in some guaranteed awesome hits. Breakdown from 32 Hangers from Topps

2 Flagg Base Rookies (One has significant corner damage, so throw that one out)
3 Flagg Base Inserts
1 Flagg Voices Refractor
2 Kon Knueppel Base Rookies
1 Dylan Harper Base Rookie
0 Cedric Coward Base Rookies
0 VJ Edgecombe Base Rookies
0 Shai Base Cards
1 Jokic Base Card (which is moot now, because of the injury)
0 Autos (Should get 2 per case I believe, but 32 didn't yield one)

Parallels
Regular Refractors-Best was a Cedric Coward, rest were crap
Pulsar Refractors-Best was a Cedric Coward, next best was Will Richard and Steph. That's basically it there

Numbered stuff
1 Magenta (/399)-Yves Messi
5 Purple Pulsar (/75)-Tim Hardaway Jr, Bobby Portis, Gary Trent, Rasheer Fleming RC, Will Richard RC
1 Purple Insert-Instinct Noa Essengue (/75)
1 Magenta Insert-Go Time Ja Morant (/399)

Case Hits
2 Fanaticals (Ja Morant, Ace Bailey)

And that's it. Maybe $250 worth of cards if I'm being generous. Sadly, based on comps the Will Richard Purple Pulsar is the 2nd best card of the break behind the Flagg Voices Refractor but I'm skeptical I'll get near those comps. So yeah, Hangers aren't anything special in my opinion. Just another format to get completely destroyed on. The hilarious thing is seeing the troll cards (I.E. Mavericks as the team but it's not Flagg, even in the last box as one last F You, the Purple Pulsar was a Horizontal Bucks card, which Giannis is, but I couldn't even hit that, it was Bobby Portis LOL)

Fanatics has been whoopin your butt lately.

Sorry.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Fanatics has been whoopin your butt lately.

Sorry.

And I'm like "thank you sir, may I have another" lol

I still have 8 Hangers from Fanatics coming in and another 4 from Target so expecting more disappointment. I will not be actively looking for these anymore though after this

[22emmittfan]

Have opened 26 hangers 6 autos so far. The paradox is really nice looking lebron. Clayton is refractor auto and second refractor auto hit of his, the other was from a mega.


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[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Chris P

And I'm like "thank you sir, may I have another" lol

I still have 8 Hangers from Fanatics coming in and another 4 from Target so expecting more disappointment. I will not be actively looking for these anymore though after this

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

Have opened 26 hangers 6 autos so far. The paradox is really nice looking lebron. Clayton is refractor auto and second refractor auto hit of his, the other was from a mega.


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“Let me salt your wound”

[22emmittfan]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

“Let me salt your wound”

You prefer sea salt or table? Keep hope alive. Six hangars from dicks had two autos. Paradox was from Topps and other autos Wally World

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

You prefer sea salt or table? Keep hope alive. Six hangars from dicks had two autos. Paradox was from Topps and other autos Wally World

You miss all the shots you don’t take.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

“Let me salt your wound”

I'm just gonna keep telling myself

"Nobody posts their terrible breaks" lol

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by Chris P

So here's a reality check for those who think buying a ton of these is going to result in some guaranteed awesome hits. Breakdown from 32 Hangers from Topps

2 Flagg Base Rookies (One has significant corner damage, so throw that one out)
3 Flagg Base Inserts
1 Flagg Voices Refractor
2 Kon Knueppel Base Rookies
1 Dylan Harper Base Rookie
0 Cedric Coward Base Rookies
0 VJ Edgecombe Base Rookies
0 Shai Base Cards
1 Jokic Base Card (which is moot now, because of the injury)
0 Autos (Should get 2 per case I believe, but 32 didn't yield one)

Parallels
Regular Refractors-Best was a Cedric Coward, rest were crap
Pulsar Refractors-Best was a Cedric Coward, next best was Will Richard and Steph. That's basically it there

Numbered stuff
1 Magenta (/399)-Yves Messi
5 Purple Pulsar (/75)-Tim Hardaway Jr, Bobby Portis, Gary Trent, Rasheer Fleming RC, Will Richard RC
1 Purple Insert-Instinct Noa Essengue (/75)
1 Magenta Insert-Go Time Ja Morant (/399)

Case Hits
2 Fanaticals (Ja Morant, Ace Bailey)

And that's it. Maybe $250 worth of cards if I'm being generous. Sadly, based on comps the Will Richard Purple Pulsar is the 2nd best card of the break behind the Flagg Voices Refractor but I'm skeptical I'll get near those comps. So yeah, Hangers aren't anything special in my opinion. Just another format to get completely destroyed on. The hilarious thing is seeing the troll cards (I.E. Mavericks as the team but it's not Flagg, even in the last box as one last F You, the Purple Pulsar was a Horizontal Bucks card, which Giannis is, but I couldn't even hit that, it was Bobby Portis LOL)

[whodatbeastly16]

I'm surprised I don't see anybody talking about the terrible QC as well. The centering is terrible on most cards along with significant surface/corner issues on most of them.