How come Charles Barkley's RC card is worth more than Hakeem Olajuwon's Rc? - Page 2

msink28 · 10-14-2025, 07:51 PM

Charles Barkley was really good and has higher Box +/-, Win Shares, and PER than Hakeem. If you prefer the eye test, then Barkley was the only guy who really answered the bell against MJ in the Finals (save for maybe Gary Payton after that series was a wrap). He was way more efficient than Hakeem on offense, but Hakeem was so much better at defense than Barkley that I put Hakeem slightly ahead. But go check out how good Charles Barkley was.

asujbl · 10-14-2025, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CommomSensei88

It's crazy how people would just fork over their wallets and bank accounts over popularity instead of Skill.

Who is Skill?

ninjacookies · 10-14-2025, 08:00 PM

Strongest username to post-content correlation.

Unc Vee told me to keep diamond handing my Dreamshakes based on his wealthy African Prince development prophecy, and I still have full trust in the process.

All it takes is one Orange Man 20 billion dollar (approx. 40,000,000,000,000,0000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 nairas) Nigerian bailout, and early retirement shall be ours.

fabiani12333 · 10-14-2025, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CommomSensei88

It's crazy how people would just fork over their wallets and bank accounts over popularity instead of Skill.

Chuck was a pretty dynamic player. He had to be because he was undersized for his position.

He was also controversial in the 90s -- he infamously had a Nike commercial where he said he's not a role model. He got into bar fights and often spoke his mind.

CommomSensei88 · 10-14-2025, 08:36 PM

Nobody who's not in the top 10 or 15 Goat discussion should be worth more than someone who is in the discussion and in the same set. Hakeem even has all of the players going to him for lessons like Lebron Kobe Giannis and Victor and others. I get popularity wins, and the media loves Barkley.

Gary · 10-14-2025, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Popularity is one thing, Barkley has for the most part been the second most expensive card in the set since release of the first basketball Beckett.

Another factor is that the Barkley card is more condition sensitive than the Hakeem, although similar quantities have been graded, there are about 100 less barkleys in PSA 10 ( about 250 vs. 350 )

This............look at PSA 10's of Moore and Jeff Malone......add in popularity with Chuck being on TV and you have the reasons.

Donkaylove · 10-14-2025, 11:14 PM

It's all bs, you need the sixers star team set/ sealed, done. Or, Do you want the rockets star team set? Nope

oldgoldy97 · 10-15-2025, 08:03 AM

They’re both no Nesmith.

yiguiri2002 · 10-15-2025, 09:34 AM

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They’re both no Nesmith.

The real ones remember. RIP Nomad.

hermanotarjeta · 10-15-2025, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

The real ones remember. RIP Nomad.

What happened to nomad???!???

mtr · 10-15-2025, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CommomSensei88

I get popularity wins

No I don't think you do or else you wouldn't have made this thread. Wait until you find out how much Jason Williams cards sell for.

oldgoldy97 · 10-15-2025, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

What happened to nomad???!???

He flew too close to the sun.

dizzy4111 · 10-15-2025, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mtr

No I don't think you do or else you wouldn't have made this thread. Wait until you find out how much Jason Williams cards sell for.

Was thinking Jason Williams would be a much better premise for this thread. The gap between Dream and Chuck isn't nearly big enough to be threadworthy.

duron · 10-15-2025, 02:26 PM

Senseis are not so common

jcardstore · 10-15-2025, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by duron

Senseis are not so common

commom*

mjekase · 10-15-2025, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CommomSensei88

It's crazy how people would just fork over their wallets and bank accounts over popularity instead of Skill.

It's not. Cards are a form of art. People don't buy art simply because the artist was the most technically skilled, or the subject matter ideal. Style is a significant part of the package. Same with music or any artform. It's subjective.

jcardstore · 10-15-2025, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mjekase

It's not. Cards are a form of art. People don't buy art simply because the artist was the most technically skilled, or the subject matter ideal. Style is a significant part of the package. Same with music or any artform. It's subjective.

This is the reason Lil Yatchy has a 5x platinum song and multiple gold records

Just listening to one of his songs would give any normal person brain damage. If you could even call it a song

asujbl · 10-15-2025, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

This is the reason Lil Yatchy has a 5x platinum song and multiple gold records

Just listening to one of his songs would give any normal person brain damage. If you could even call it a song

What the hell is a Yachty?

Like Yacht Rock? I have a sweet playlist for that if anyone wants it

kingofsnake · 10-15-2025, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

What the hell is a Yachty?

cms11 · 10-18-2025, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CommomSensei88

I just always wondered why individual talent doesn't mean as much in Basketball as it does in Baseball a lot of great players don't ever get the credit they deserve if they're not popular enough in basketball and Hakeem has to be one the players when you research one of the most impressive individuals to ever play considering his background and what he was able to accomplish with the lack of help during his prime compared to the other greats.

Basketball is much more personality focused than baseball.

duwal · 10-21-2025, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

What the hell is a Yachty?

Like Yacht Rock? I have a sweet playlist for that if anyone wants it

I think its parked next to a Boaty

asujbl · 10-21-2025, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by duwal

I think its parked next to a Boaty

2 weeks later?

Nope

bub838 · 10-21-2025, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CommomSensei88

It's crazy how people would just fork over their wallets and bank accounts over popularity instead of Skill.

Welcome to the hobby, I see it’s your first year.

pokemaniac · 10-21-2025, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by msink28

Charles Barkley was really good and has higher Box +/-, Win Shares, and PER than Hakeem. If you prefer the eye test, then Barkley was the only guy who really answered the bell against MJ in the Finals (save for maybe Gary Payton after that series was a wrap). He was way more efficient than Hakeem on offense, but Hakeem was so much better at defense than Barkley that I put Hakeem slightly ahead. But go check out how good Charles Barkley was.

This. Both first ballot HOFers with amazing careers. People in here acting like it's Shaq and Kwame Brown.

rogueriver · 10-21-2025, 10:18 PM

Barkley was extremely popular where as Hakeem was not. Kind of like why Tim Duncan’s cards are not worth what Kobe’s are…..

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10-14-2025, 07:51 PM	#26
msink28 Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,342	Charles Barkley was really good and has higher Box +/-, Win Shares, and PER than Hakeem. If you prefer the eye test, then Barkley was the only guy who really answered the bell against MJ in the Finals (save for maybe Gary Payton after that series was a wrap). He was way more efficient than Hakeem on offense, but Hakeem was so much better at defense than Barkley that I put Hakeem slightly ahead. But go check out how good Charles Barkley was.

10-14-2025, 08:36 PM	#30
CommomSensei88 Member Join Date: Oct 2025 Posts: 6	Nobody who's not in the top 10 or 15 Goat discussion should be worth more than someone who is in the discussion and in the same set. Hakeem even has all of the players going to him for lessons like Lebron Kobe Giannis and Victor and others. I get popularity wins, and the media loves Barkley.

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Donkaylove Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: PNW Posts: 3,199	It's all bs, you need the sixers star team set/ sealed, done. Or, Do you want the rockets star team set? Nope

10-21-2025, 10:18 PM	#50
rogueriver Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Texas Posts: 970 rogueriver	Barkley was extremely popular where as Hakeem was not. Kind of like why Tim Duncan’s cards are not worth what Kobe’s are…..