2025 NBA Post-Season thread!!!

[BostonNut]

Originally Posted by tjforce

The correct thread for LeBron and Luka talk...

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1610329


This is the post season thread here, not the off season thread.

It hasn't even been 24 hours since the last LeFlop. Still fair game.

[Nomad]

Dude, Lebron will always be a winner in my heart. And Luka is well loved in Dallas after being traded. I have never seen that before. Pyrrich victories, but the value of your stock will never go down. Rejoice.

[patchgenie]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

The annual closure of the Lecircus is always the best part of the nba season!

imagine putting 100K on the Leakers to win it all lol

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

He's growing on me. Dude still needs to wear rubbers, but damn he's fun. His game is going to another level when he can shoot so poorly and still help his team.



I have my reasons.

Sorry, I save all of my touching for your Mom.




Quite the fall.

We'll need to see how far Minny go to know just how catastrophic that loss was.

The Lakers were right there in every game. Minny just played a bit harder and attacked the Lakers weaker defenders.

Cough cough. Luka and LeBron

you are strange

[Archangel1775]

The offensive weakness of LeBron materialized in the loss. Though he closed with some really good defense you can't discount it. Chucking up a long 3-pointer with the lead was terrible. I don't recall if the shot clock was short but his inability to create a shot has always been a problem with him closing games himself. He then went ahead and threw the ball away then had a bad foul on a smaller player driving. The only real confidence people watching had was Luka shooting the game tying shot but that was moot when The T-Wolves double teamed him. Is LeBron a great player, absolutely but when an alternative player is the norm at the end of an important game, I dont believe you can call that player THE GOAT.

[Buyers2Block]

Anybody saying that MJ's play with Wizard's was awful, does not know basketball and is listening to revisionist history. During those days defense was at a premium, physical play and OVERALL scoring was down in the league. Extrapolate MJ's numbers to the amount of scoring that takes place in today's game and he comes out somewhere around 27/28 points a game, 7 and 7 roughly. BUT HERE IS THE BIG DIFFERERCE --- the guy was literally getting his knees drained after every game -- reports are a black tar like substance would come out of his knees -- AND MJ STILL PLAYED BOTH WAYS!!! No load managing. No games off. I think he was 40 when he played a full 82 game schedule. The man was incredible!

People have to stop with the revisionist history. Also, MJ only came out of retirement because he was promised an ownership stake in the Wizards and the majority owner wanted him to suit up again and play before vesting ownership in MJ. That owner turned out to be a snake in the grass.

Last thing -- MJ would NEVER let his teams get bounced like Lebron's teams have gone out -- tails between their legs, no fight, disappearing in the 4th quarter like Lebron has done.

People need to stop comparing them. MJ was clearly a cut above.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Buyers2Block

Anybody saying that MJ's play with Wizard's was awful, does not know basketball and is listening to revisionist history. During those days defense was at a premium, physical play and OVERALL scoring was down in the league. Extrapolate MJ's numbers to the amount of scoring that takes place in today's game and he comes out somewhere around 27/28 points a game, 7 and 7 roughly. BUT HERE IS THE BIG DIFFERERCE --- the guy was literally getting his knees drained after every game -- reports are a black tar like substance would come out of his knees -- AND MJ STILL PLAYED BOTH WAYS!!! No load managing. No games off. I think he was 40 when he played a full 82 game schedule. The man was incredible!

People have to stop with the revisionist history. Also, MJ only came out of retirement because he was promised an ownership stake in the Wizards and the majority owner wanted him to suit up again and play before vesting ownership in MJ. That owner turned out to be a snake in the grass.

Last thing -- MJ would NEVER let his teams get bounced like Lebron's teams have gone out -- tails between their legs, no fight, disappearing in the 4th quarter like Lebron has done.

People need to stop comparing them. MJ was clearly a cut above.

oh you mean like getting swept twice by the celtics? or losing 3 straight years to the Pistons?

Oh yea those don't count.

and also just hilariously stupid is the bolded point, obviously you don't know that we have per100 or per 75 adjusted numbers to compare across era and the numbers aren't close between the 2 players.

I know you don't know because you're clearly a casual, but we also have plenty of advanced and on/off stats for MJs wizards years. Both his offensive and defensive numbers were objectively bad in both seasons.

Not sure why people make statements on things that they know nothing about despite being completely wrong.

[Nomad]

So who is young, underrated, and good in these series? You know my team and my pick, but I am looking to diversify.

I can buy LeBron, MJ, Giannis, and Luka at peak prices any time I want.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by patchgenie

imagine putting 100K on the Leakers to win it all lol

Millennials gotta millennial!

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

oh you mean like getting swept twice by the celtics? or losing 3 straight years to the Pistons?

Oh yea those don't count.

and also just hilariously stupid is the bolded point, obviously you don't know that we have per100 or per 75 adjusted numbers to compare across era and the numbers aren't close between the 2 players.

I know you don't know because you're clearly a casual, but we also have plenty of advanced and on/off stats for MJs wizards years. Both his offensive and defensive numbers were objectively bad in both seasons.

Not sure why people make statements on things that they know nothing about despite being completely wrong.

I know you think you are one of the brightest basketball minds of this century, but not much you can say if you think Jordan was the reason the Bulls lost those series or that Jordan played bad...

Lebron shrank in this series and also blew both Denver series the previous 2 years. And that's just the past 3 years for him in the postseason.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

I know you think you are one of the brightest basketball minds of this century, but not much you can say if you think Jordan was the reason the Bulls lost those series or that Jordan played bad...

Lebron shrank in this series and also blew both Denver series the previous 2 years. And that's just the past 3 years for him in the postseason.

I don't even care, but people act like Jordan never lost a series and that he was always perfect and every series LeBron lost was his fault.

I was mostly just responding to the ultimate stupidity in the bolded part of the post.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

I don't even care, but people act like Jordan never lost a series and that he was always perfect and every series LeBron lost was his fault.

I was mostly just responding to the ultimate stupidity in the bolded part of the post.

The bolded part was about his Wizards years, so why bring up the 80s? Lol

And either way, MJ wasn't awful for the Wizards. He just wasn't MJ from the Bulls years.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

The bolded part was about his Wizards years, so why bring up the 80s? Lol

And either way, MJ wasn't awful for the Wizards. He just wasn't MJ from the Bulls years.

He was awful, and there's nothing but "vibes" to prove otherwise because all the stats are awful.

MJ would NEVER let his teams get bounced like Lebron's teams have gone out

despite getting swept multiple times and losing to the same team 3 years in a row. but that doesn't count I know

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

He was awful, and there's nothing but "vibes" to prove otherwise because all the stats are awful.



despite getting swept multiple times and losing to the same team 3 years in a row. but that doesn't count I know

We'll agree to disagree on the Wizards years, but which one of those series was Jordan not the best player on the floor?

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

We'll agree to disagree on the Wizards years, but which one of those series was Jordan not the best player on the floor?

LeBron has been the best player on his team in every single playoff series he has played in including this year, it's a team game. So what is the point?

people can disagree about his time on the Wizards all they want but he was objectively bad, that's a fact.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

LeBron has been the best player on his team in every single playoff series he has played in including this year, it's a team game. So what is the point?

people can disagree about his time on the Wizards all they want but he was objectively bad, that's a fact.

I'm talking best player in the series, not just on their own team. Jordan was the best player in the series for every playoff series of his career. And the point in saying that is that it's not that Jordan's series losses don't count, you just can't point to Jordan as to why his teams lost, ever. That can't be said about Lebron.

And I don't know how you can actually say Lebron was the best player on even his own team in the 2011 Finals.

And sure, a guy that doubled his team's win total from the previous year is awful...

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

I'm talking best player in the series, not just on their own team. Jordan was the best player in the series for every playoff series of his career.

And I don't know how you can actually say Lebron was the best player on even his own team in the 2011 Finals.

If you're the best player in the series, and you get swept, does it even matter?

honestly, this is such a dumb conversation we're talking about a dude who is 40. I'm just glad this stupid series is over so the LeBron talk can stop

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

If you're the best player in the series, and you get swept, does it even matter?

honestly, this is such a dumb conversation we're talking about a dude who is 40. I'm just glad this stupid series is over so the LeBron talk can stop

It seems dumb because you aren't understanding the point, but was just trying to respond to your comment.

100% agree with you that I'm glad the series is over and we can all just enjoy the playoffs now.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

It seems dumb because you aren't understanding the point, but was just trying to respond to your comment.

100% agree with you that I'm glad the series is over and we can all just enjoy the playoffs now.

there is no point. Your team either wins or it loses. If you are the best player and your team lost it counts the same if someone else was the best player in the series and you lost.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

there is no point. Your team either wins or it loses. If you are the best player and your team lost it counts the same if someone else was the best player in the series and you lost.

I can definitely appreciate that approach. I can definitely get on board with this thinking instead of what most Lebron guys argue (he made it to 10 Finals, went up against superteams, did everything he could, his team sucked, etc.).

I still don't think the original comment was meaning that those series didn't count for MJ. Pretty sure he was more meaning that Jordan would go down with a fight instead of just giving up the way Lebron did and has in the past.

[drobfan8]

Oh man,

even when you think LeBron fanatics will give up and accept defeat, they just can't help themselves. The insecurity is wild. Just like their guy.

Pointing to LeBron's counting stats is always wild to me. He knows how to accumulate empty stats. He's done it for about 15 years once he figured it out.

Here's a key number. and it happens a lot.

LeBron was a - 14 on the court last night.

Meaning in the almost 8 mins he was off the court, his team was better by 7 points.

The dude just needs to walk away at this point. The league hasn't needed him for about 5 years.

Please let next season be his last. Sick of the roid freak.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

I don't even care, but people act like Jordan never lost a series and that he was always perfect and every series LeBron lost was his fault.

I was mostly just responding to the ultimate stupidity in the bolded part of the post.

You have to wonder, what would MJ's legacy be if Pippen the savior didn't get drafted by the Bulls and sign a team-friendly contract.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

You have to wonder, what would MJ's legacy be if Pippen the savior didn't get drafted by the Bulls and sign a team-friendly contract.

Jesus Christ, these takes are getting worse.

Jordan pretty much won a title without Pippen in 98. Pip did nothing. Missed most of the start of the season and came back and the Bulls were in 3rd. Then gave them nothing in game 6 of the Finals because of his back.

Jordan would have just been fine. Pip was a massive p*ssy for so long he cost them titles. Think game 7 vs the Pistons.

[boxbuster7]

always the same trolls in every thread no matter what we're talking about

never change blowout

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by BostonNut

It hasn't even been 24 hours since the last LeFlop. Still fair game.

Nope.. it's the off-season now. Take it to the Loser thread with Luka and Giannis.

I'd even rather talk Celtics here.