2025 NFL Offseason Thread

[Ninotores]

I really wish Rodgers would pick a team. Tired of reading about it every day. But I expect nothing less from him, he loves the attention. And I say this as a fan of his football play.

[2010GBPackers]

Originally Posted by Ninotores

I really wish Rodgers would pick a team. Tired of reading about it every day. But I expect nothing less from him, he loves the attention. And I say this as a fan of his football play.

Well, there's actually a lot to think about if you're Aaron Rodgers. Let's say it's down to PIT, NYG, and MIN:

1) NYG - Do you want to most likely go to a losing team, but won't have to worry about beating out the backup QB, and you'll be throwing to an elite WR? Problem is, this organization is not too dissimilar to the one you just left.

2) PIT - Great organization that is stable, and you'll be with a coach you admire. Plus, beating out Mason R. should be easy. You have two very good WR's, however, the roster as a whole is aging and isn't what it used to be. And their O-line isn't that great. You'll probably finish >.500 though and make the Wild Card round.

3) MIN - Best team of the bunch. The roster is very good and they added key pieces in FA. The coach seems great and they kept their best asset - B. Flores. The O-line is above-average/very good. They have great WR's and a great TE. HOWEVER, if there's a bad stretch, everyone will be looking to get JJ McCarthy on the field. Do you want to go through that at this age? That's the question with MIN. Plus, do they (Minn) want to go through that possibility as well or would they rather just hand JJ the job?

It's easy to get caught up in the minute-to-minute clickbait media cycle, but that's on you. Just because people haven't received their media news fix according to their prescribed timeline doesn't mean anything. These athletes don't owe us an answer until they're ready to decide. It's literally been a day-and-a-half.....

[rms13]

Kupp looking for min of $15 million per year which was pointed is is the same cap hit for Justin Jefferson this year. Sounds like the general reaction is he's insane and is going to have to temper his expectations a lot if he wants to keep playing. With that said I won't be mad if my Pats overpay for him on a short contract even if he's 80% peak Kupp

[Ninotores]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Well, there's actually a lot to think about if you're Aaron Rodgers. Let's say it's down to PIT, NYG, and MIN:

1) NYG - Do you want to most likely go to a losing team, but won't have to worry about beating out the backup QB, and you'll be throwing to an elite WR? Problem is, this organization is not too dissimilar to the one you just left.

2) PIT - Great organization that is stable, and you'll be with a coach you admire. Plus, beating out Mason R. should be easy. You have two very good WR's, however, the roster as a whole is aging and isn't what it used to be. And their O-line isn't that great. You'll probably finish >.500 though and make the Wild Card round.

3) MIN - Best team of the bunch. The roster is very good and they added key pieces in FA. The coach seems great and they kept their best asset - B. Flores. The O-line is above-average/very good. They have great WR's and a great TE. HOWEVER, if there's a bad stretch, everyone will be looking to get JJ McCarthy on the field. Do you want to go through that at this age? That's the question with MIN. Plus, do they (Minn) want to go through that possibility as well or would they rather just hand JJ the job?

It's easy to get caught up in the minute-to-minute clickbait media cycle, but that's on you. Just because people haven't received their media news fix according to their prescribed timeline doesn't mean anything. These athletes don't owe us an answer until they're ready to decide. It's literally been a day-and-a-half.....

Fair point, fair point.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by rms13

Kupp looking for min of $15 million per year

[Floridacardguy]

Bengals about to pay their butts off to keep both of their WRs for Burrow, they are gonna need them, because that D is not gonna be able to stop a nose bleed.

Think it's been proven time and time again, Defense wins championships at the end of the day, and in 5 yrs when they look back and ask why the Bengals never won he big game with such a power house offense, we will know why

[Floridacardguy]

Kupp to Seattle, thank goodness he's not coming to Denver
He got his 15 mill a year- you go Kupp, don't let anyone tell you that you're washed, AND he signed with a Rams division opponent to get some payback

[rms13]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Kupp to Seattle, thank goodness he's not coming to Denver
He got his 15 mill a year- you go Kupp, don't let anyone tell you that you're washed, AND he signed with a Rams division opponent to get some payback

Good for him. Not sure what the Seahawks are doing. They apparently got rid of Gino and DK because of money and then overpay Darnold and Kupp which are both downgrades in my opinion. But we'll see how things play out

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by rms13

Good for him. Not sure what the Seahawks are doing. They apparently got rid of Gino and DK because of money and then overpay Darnold and Kupp which are both downgrades in my opinion. But we'll see how things play out

RIGHT?????
These moves make no sense, like they are doing something just to do it. Metcalf clearly better than Kupp at this stage, and at best Geno and Darnold are a wash

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Kupp to Seattle, thank goodness he's not coming to Denver
He got his 15 mill a year- you go Kupp, don't let anyone tell you that you're washed, AND he signed with a Rams division opponent to get some payback

Honestly didn’t know you lived in Denver. Thought you were Florida like me.

[Siberian13]

Bills signed two cheaters? Is that right?

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Honestly didn’t know you lived in Denver. Thought you were Florida like me.

I do, I root for my favorite QBs and their teams

[packman80]

Hope for Seattle sake most of that 45 million is non-guaranteed. Kupp is a washed up shadow of his 2021 self. If Seattle guaranteed anything more then $10 million in that deal it's a overpay.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Well, there's actually a lot to think about if you're Aaron Rodgers....

...3) MIN - Best team of the bunch. The roster is very good and they added key pieces in FA. The coach seems great and they kept their best asset - B. Flores. The O-line is above-average/very good. They have great WR's and a great TE. HOWEVER, if there's a bad stretch, everyone will be looking to get JJ McCarthy on the field. Do you want to go through that at this age? That's the question with MIN. Plus, do they (Minn) want to go through that possibility as well or would they rather just hand JJ the job?...

Minnesota doesn't want Aaron Rodgers, lol.

He's a distraction.
He's a loudmouth.
He's not that good at this point.
Fans of the team hate him.

Vikings clearly are confident in McCarthy's health if they haven't signed any other QB as yet.

If they want a vet, they can probably have Cousins next week. The could have a lot of guys right now (Russ, Winston, Wentz, Rush, etc etc ... and they passed on Darnold, Mac, Mariota, etc etc)

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by rms13

Good for him. Not sure what the Seahawks are doing. They apparently got rid of Gino and DK because of money and then overpay Darnold and Kupp which are both downgrades in my opinion. But we'll see how things play out

Darnold? Maybe a downgrade from Geno.
Kupp? Absolutely a downgrade from DK. Huge drop.

...but then again, Bucs paid old injured Godwin big money when he will probably never be too effective again.

Free agency = overpaying ... no way around it.

[blackvodka]

Originally Posted by rms13

Good for him. Not sure what the Seahawks are doing. They apparently got rid of Gino and DK because of money and then overpay Darnold and Kupp which are both downgrades in my opinion. But we'll see how things play out

I was thinking the exact same thing. There's a lot of risk involved in both of these signings. Geno probably wasn't going to be in Seattle after 2025 anyway, but DK they could have kept if they were signing Darnold.

I thought Kupp would only get around 2yrs/$25mil myself, but Seattle took the chance.

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[blackvodka]

If the Vikings let Darnold walk, why would they sign Rodgers? The only way there is even a small chance of that is if JJ has a major setback and Rodgers gets a one year offer out of desperation.

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[rms13]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Bengals about to pay their butts off to keep both of their WRs for Burrow, they are gonna need them, because that D is not gonna be able to stop a nose bleed.

Think it's been proven time and time again, Defense wins championships at the end of the day, and in 5 yrs when they look back and ask why the Bengals never won he big game with such a power house offense, we will know why

I read the Bengals are now talking to Hendrickson and they have freed up enough money to sign him, Chase and Higgins.

[blackvodka]

Originally Posted by rms13

I read the Bengals are now talking to Hendrickson and they have freed up enough money to sign him, Chase and Higgins.

If that's true, there's no way they could afford anything else.

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[Delta5]

Originally Posted by rms13

I read the Bengals are now talking to Hendrickson and they have freed up enough money to sign him, Chase and Higgins.

It's not possible to tie 45% of cap to your QB and 2 WRs and field a competitive roster

[slyguy]

Mekhi Becton to Chargers is big.
He was hurt a lot on NYJ but is an elite young guy.

He will be solid... I'd almost bet LAC futures if they weren't in KC grouping.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by rms13

I read the Bengals are now talking to Hendrickson and they have freed up enough money to sign him, Chase and Higgins.

Probably the only way you can make it work is to give they guaranteed roster bonuses for first few years of the contract and hope the salary cap has big increases like it has been getting and then each year convert the roster bonus into a signing bonus so you can lower the cap hit that year and kick the can down the road for next 3-4 years or in the Saints case 20 years.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by packman80

Probably the only way you can make it work is to give they guaranteed roster bonuses for first few years of the contract and hope the salary cap has big increases like it has been getting and then each year convert the roster bonus into a signing bonus so you can lower the cap hit that year and kick the can down the road for next 3-4 years or in the Saints case 20 years.

I keep hearing from people that cover the NFL that the cap will keep going up like $30 million per year so teams aren't as worried about cap implications right now.

[slyguy]

• Who is thinking Cousins stays with Falcons as most overpriced backup QB in the league?
• Who's thinking Atlanta cuts Kirk loose on St. Pats to avoid more sunk money, and the "we may keep him" was just a ruse?

I am in the latter camp. Pretty mean to hold a vet hostage like that, disrespectful to Penix to have his backup making 10x what he does, and obviously a huge waste of money for the team/owner (football is a business).

I think he'll end up with a chance to start/compete on a rebuild... or he could end up as the backup for a good team.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by slyguy

• Who is thinking Cousins stays with Falcons as most overpriced backup QB in the league?
• Who's thinking Atlanta cuts Kirk loose on St. Pats to avoid more sunk money, and the "we may keep him" was just a ruse?

I am in the latter camp. Pretty mean to hold a vet hostage like that, disrespectful to Penix to have his backup making 10x what he does, and obviously a huge waste of money for the team/owner (football is a business).

I think he'll end up with a chance to start/compete on a rebuild... or he could end up as the backup for a good team.

I'm thinking Cousins stays in Atlanta.