First Buzz: 2024 Topps Heritage High Number baseball cards (will update) - Page 8

MotorboatJones · 03-01-2025, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by auctionjmm

All depends on the minis. If there's a few per box and no parallels or autos, then I agree. No reason to pay a higher price now.

But if the minis are 1 per pack and have parallels and autos, then you have a product within a product scenario where these prices will go insane. Look what regular mini sells for now. It's a two-for-one deal in that case. Prices would soar.

Until more info is released, I couldn't even tell you what a fair price is for this.

Completely agree

mikejones · 03-01-2025, 10:30 AM

The print run for heritage high has always been lower with the smaller checklist. I think fanatics did this to increase the print run by inserting different parallels. This doesn't even feel like heritage anymore.

mfw13 · 03-01-2025, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FatButcher

The crazy part is this is definitely the kind of product that will be available on the Topps site beyond the first few minutes of release at likely much lower prices.

Don't get the rush to buy from big 3 on this one.

This will be available at half the price a year or two from now....just look at where 2022 HHN is despite having both Bobby Witt Jr. and Julio Rodriguez RC's.

What I'm worried about is what this means for the release price for 2025 Heritage in April.....if that's over $100 a box at release, it would be horrible.

kyle1707 · 03-01-2025, 12:22 PM

The massive over production

You better be doing this for fun

I’m glad they made it to be honest

Because would not of shocked me if they got rid of it

Since it is harder to gamble with

base set · 03-01-2025, 01:06 PM

I thought “Actions” were no longer in the product(s) starting in 2023. The concept isn’t really all that relevant any more given the original 70s sets have a steadily increasing portion of action photography. I doubt they will ever return; now we have “Image Variations” instead; basically the same thing.

24 Heritage is sort of 95% “action” photography though that is basically cropped back out of each photo.

MotorboatJones · 03-01-2025, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

You better be doing this for fun

That’s the only reason I do it. Love Heritage.

ThoseBackPages · 03-01-2025, 02:28 PM

collecting IS for fun!

RatedRooki3 · 03-01-2025, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

This will be available at half the price a year or two from now....just look at where 2022 HHN is despite having both Bobby Witt Jr. and Julio Rodriguez RC's.

What I'm worried about is what this means for the release price for 2025 Heritage in April.....if that's over $100 a box at release, it would be horrible.

Have you been watching product from the 2024 class? Even the higher end product has slowing been creeping up (Diamond Icons, Definitive, Luminaries). The 2022 class doesn't hold the 2024 classes jock strap. This product is going to sell out instantly.

marjac · 03-01-2025, 11:26 PM

[QUOTE=OhioLawyerF5;19829587]I'm not a 75 purist (in fact, this might be blasphemy, but I don't care for the design)

You should be disbarred.

Just kidding obviously. But from one lawyer to another, not caring for the '75 design is blasphemy and heresy rolled into one, as it is the one design to rule them all.

Disclaimer: I live for and collect exclusively everything '75 design. I am '75 specialist, caring about nothing else in the hobby.

ClevelandIC · 03-06-2025, 10:07 AM

I think a lot of people must be buying this quietly. Case price is up $200 on the Big 3

seanbros55 · 03-06-2025, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 13CardinalsFan

Yes they have. 2022 High Number had several Action Variation for players in regular heritage.

They also inserted Action Variation cards that were in regular heritage into HHN boxes to serve at hits instead of including the appropriate number of HHN variations n said boxes

bub838 · 03-06-2025, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandIC

I think a lot of people must be buying this quietly. Case price is up $200 on the Big 3

Or it's just manipulation

ClevelandIC · 03-06-2025, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bub838

Or it's just manipulation

Or the demand for 2024 Baseball products is extremely high and this is likely the last or second to last.

Find me any reasonably priced 2024 Baseball that contains Chourio, Merrill, Holliday, Langford, Yamamoto, Skenes and Imanaga. Literally any.

bub838 · 03-06-2025, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandIC

Or the demand for 2024 Baseball products is extremely high and this is likely the last or second to last.

Find me any reasonably priced 2024 Baseball that contains Chourio, Merrill, Holliday, Langford, Yamamoto, Skenes and Imanaga. Literally any.

Calm down. I'm hoping for a preorder from Topps.

sportzking · 03-06-2025, 11:26 AM

Still going for two boxes to make the set. Might be tempted to get more for the minis.

ClevelandIC · 03-06-2025, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bub838

Calm down. I'm hoping for a preorder from Topps.

Love this!

mfw13 · 03-06-2025, 12:08 PM

Am I correct in understanding that the players who were in the regular chrome checklist will ALSO have a second chrome card #/699 that will look identical to their #/999 chrome card?

FatButcher · 03-06-2025, 12:15 PM

I understood it to be players without regular chrome would be included in HHN. But its entirely vague and unknown.

jbriskin05 · 03-06-2025, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Am I correct in understanding that the players who were in the regular chrome checklist will ALSO have a second chrome card #/699 that will look identical to their #/999 chrome card?

i'm reading it as anybody in Heritage that did not have a chrome will now get one along with the high number checklist...so 625 different chrome

ThoseBackPages · 03-06-2025, 02:29 PM

looks to be a good thing

Americards · 03-06-2025, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

With all due respect, it doesn’t matter if you leave. Doesn’t matter if i leave. The hobby is hotter than it has ever been and more people are coming in than ever. You or I may not like what it looks like now, but others do. Blowout is a tiny fraction of a percent of the hobby. We can all leave and it won’t change anything at all. The plan is for them to grow the overall hobby and that’s what they have done.

I wonder how many of them leave quickly after seeing the pricing of the products?

ThoseBackPages · 03-06-2025, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Americards

I wonder how many of them leave quickly after seeing the pricing of the products?

ive wondered that as well. im not sure how many of them know any better to be honest

that for sure is a huge disconnect that we see with some posters here vs the new blood coming in

dodgerfanjohn · 03-06-2025, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

ive wondered that as well. im not sure how many of them know any better to be honest

that for sure is a huge disconnect that we see with some posters here vs the new blood coming in

Its not like very low end Big League is flying off the shelf. Walmart is still sitting on holiday mega boxes at $29.99 even with the monster rookie class.

A product like Heritage or Allen and Ginter....$125 ish per hobby box...its really not all that much money now days.

mfw13 · 03-06-2025, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

A product like Heritage or Allen and Ginter....$125 ish per hobby box...its really not all that much money now days.

Depends on your perspective.....Heritage was $65-70 per hobby box pretty consistently up until a couple of years ago.

I'm willing to pay $80-85 a box or so now.....but if the release price is over $1000/case, I'll either wait until the price drops, or just by a 1-500 set from someone.

The 1976 design is nowhere near as popular as the 1975 design....

timber63401 · 03-06-2025, 07:24 PM

I like Heritage and was a buyer of a case at $1000 a case and willing to take the probable $200-$500 hit but $1400 is just too much.

03-01-2025, 10:30 AM	#177
mikejones Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: fresno Posts: 5,138	The print run for heritage high has always been lower with the smaller checklist. I think fanatics did this to increase the print run by inserting different parallels. This doesn't even feel like heritage anymore. __________________ Why the hell are you buying Siemian stuff. Dude is done, can't you tell I'm trying to get rid of him because he'll never be our starting QB again....

03-01-2025, 02:28 PM	#182
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,329 ThoseBackPages	collecting IS for fun! __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

03-06-2025, 10:07 AM	#185
ClevelandIC Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Westlake, Ohio Posts: 5,468 Jakpi20 Jakpi20	I think a lot of people must be buying this quietly. Case price is up $200 on the Big 3 __________________ Always buying GU/Autos to resell to Blowout. Would love to add them to any deal we do so please let me know what you have!

03-06-2025, 02:29 PM	#195
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,329 ThoseBackPages	looks to be a good thing __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

03-01-2025, 12:22 PM	#179
kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,517	The massive over production You better be doing this for fun I’m glad they made it to be honest Because would not of shocked me if they got rid of it Since it is harder to gamble with

03-01-2025, 01:06 PM	#180
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,497	I thought “Actions” were no longer in the product(s) starting in 2023. The concept isn’t really all that relevant any more given the original 70s sets have a steadily increasing portion of action photography. I doubt they will ever return; now we have “Image Variations” instead; basically the same thing. 24 Heritage is sort of 95% “action” photography though that is basically cropped back out of each photo.

03-01-2025, 11:26 PM	#184
marjac Member Join Date: Feb 2024 Posts: 44	[QUOTE=OhioLawyerF5;19829587]I'm not a 75 purist (in fact, this might be blasphemy, but I don't care for the design) You should be disbarred. Just kidding obviously. But from one lawyer to another, not caring for the '75 design is blasphemy and heresy rolled into one, as it is the one design to rule them all. Disclaimer: I live for and collect exclusively everything '75 design. I am '75 specialist, caring about nothing else in the hobby.

03-06-2025, 11:26 AM	#190
sportzking Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Earth :) Posts: 1,198	Still going for two boxes to make the set. Might be tempted to get more for the minis.

03-06-2025, 12:08 PM	#192
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,563	Am I correct in understanding that the players who were in the regular chrome checklist will ALSO have a second chrome card #/699 that will look identical to their #/999 chrome card?

03-06-2025, 12:15 PM	#193
FatButcher Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 1,074	I understood it to be players without regular chrome would be included in HHN. But its entirely vague and unknown.

03-06-2025, 07:24 PM	#200
timber63401 Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 1,671 timber63401	I like Heritage and was a buyer of a case at $1000 a case and willing to take the probable $200-$500 hit but $1400 is just too much.