Please tell me ebay seller midwestdeals123 is on here

[QuinEarlyDoucet]

Glad he did that

Originally Posted by hammertime

This guy had a 1957 Al Kaline auto listed at $250 OBO. I offered $200. He countered at $240. I countered at $225. He declined it and raised the price to $350. When I messaged him he seemed upset that I countered at $225...? I don't understand why sellers turn on offers if they aren't willing to negotiate at all. Someone please tell me I'm crazy. Do these people not actually want to sell the things they list?

[DynaEtch]

I’ve had a fair share of this on COMC. There are some sellers on there, who whenever they receive an offer, reject it and immediately raise the base price of the card.

Yea it’s a d*** move. It more likely to happen when theirs is the only one available and you can’t just go find another one for sale. Although it’s a bad look, it’s in their right of course.

Let the seller sit on the higher priced card, and possibly not sell it now. They can do that all they want. Just gotta move on, and maybe keep the sellers username in mind so you don’t offer on their listings anymore.

[QuinEarlyDoucet]

This right here….

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Not criticizing you or the seller, but maybe the lesson learned here is that trying to save $15 isn’t worth possibly losing a card if you really want it.

[Qubits]

I found a very liquid card listed on MySlabs last year for $1,500 that had recent comps at $2,600+. Instead of submitting an offer I just smashed the buy now button. The hilarious thing is that someone who apparently didn't find a $1.1k discount appealing enough had already submitted an offer on that card (for some reason MySlabs lets you know when that's the case).

I honestly can't imagine the greed required to think getting something that far below comps isn't enough. If anything you just run the risk that the seller will then look up comps and change the price.

[JeffG1954]

Originally Posted by Qubits

If anything you just run the risk that the seller will then look up comps and change the price.

This is me....make me an offer on my already lowest price on eBay listing instead of hitting the BIN is giving me a reason to look up recent comps. I will still counter your 50% of asking price offer with a 10% discount, because I do have the best offer option open, but I will also raise the price to more recent comps so that if you should decline my counter my item will be more in line with recent comps.

[thewild3]

That seller is a loser. You can have my Kaline for $225

[NYRE2PECT]

If a seller doesn't want to the play the offer counter-offer game, then turn up the minimum offer to what you really want it to be, turn it off altogether, or play along.

People are weird.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

If a seller doesn't want to the play the offer counter-offer game, then turn up the minimum offer to what you really want it to be, turn it off altogether, or play along.

People are weird.

My general strategy is bolded. Obviously, there are exceptions at times. However, I'm in the camp of letting people do their thing however they want. I've got a block list for the ones that choose a way I find intolerable.

[1989FF]

I remember about 15 years back or so I was trying to buy a red 1/1 paper of a no name Dodgers prospect. He wanted a lot and I think I offered $100 or so. No real back and forth. Then all of a sudden he sent me a pic of it ripped in half. lol

Like others have said, bartering is fun and fine. But unlike in person, with online it's hard to tell how hard you're pushing the other party.

[LVDan]

I don’t get mad when a seller raises the price when I offer
I don’t get mad when a seller counters my offer with $5 under his asking price
I don’t get mad when a buyer offers 20% of my asking price
I don’t get mad when a seller blocks me from his listings after declining my 50% offer
It’s just ball cards after all

The only thing I really don’t like is a potential buyer explaining my card being overvalued to me while negotiating.
Other than that I tend not take any of the other crap too personally

[slogue2]

Originally Posted by 1989FF

I remember about 15 years back or so I was trying to buy a red 1/1 paper of a no name Dodgers prospect. He wanted a lot and I think I offered $100 or so. No real back and forth. Then all of a sudden he sent me a pic of it ripped in half. lol

Like others have said, bartering is fun and fine. But unlike in person, with online it's hard to tell how hard you're pushing the other party.

That is very over the top and very funny.

[DaBaddestHic]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

If a seller doesn't want to the play the offer counter-offer game, then turn up the minimum offer to what you really want it to be, turn it off altogether, or play along.

People are weird.

I usually have BO off because I have no interest in the offer game, but it doesn't keep people from messaging me asking if I'll take x amount. But I rarely have expensive cards listed, so I usually just say yes to get it sold.

I also rarely make offers on cards, and if I do, I'll decline counter offers. Unless it's a really rare card. But for the most part, I've learned you'll see a card again, so I don't have to play games I hate playing. I get some people like negotiating though, I don't really get upset about it.

[PuddleMonkey]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

I've got a block list for the ones that choose a way I find intolerable.

Poor Larry

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

Poor Larry

Haha noooo, Larry will be fine. I'm not a big-time player. Anything I buy or sell Larry can find elsewhere.

Conversely, I can find fifty Larrys any time I want.

We don't need each other.

Also, who's Larry?

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

The world is full of people and they are all different.

I agree 100%. The frustration the bidder has may be just as frustrating for the seller. The seller may have purchased the card for $350 and just wants to receive a portion of his investment back and then receives a even lower offer. It occurred to me when on EBay members could reach out to sellers and ask. If the offer was so low balled I would tell them to risk opening product and find out if the risk was worth the low ball offers you sent me.

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Also, who's Larry?

I assume this guy.

[ThoseBackPages]

which one's Pink?

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by jplarson

I assume this guy.

Good call, I had forgotten about him!

He'll definitely be fine. Apparently, he's got the biggest, baddest collection out there.

[clsports]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

which one's Pink?

Pink Floyd "Have a Cigar" reference??

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by clsports

Pink Floyd "Have a Cigar" reference??

Yes Sir!

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Stifle

I agree 100%. The frustration the bidder has may be just as frustrating for the seller. The seller may have purchased the card for $350 and just wants to receive a portion of his investment back and then receives a even lower offer. It occurred to me when on EBay members could reach out to sellers and ask. If the offer was so low balled I would tell them to risk opening product and find out if the risk was worth the low ball offers you sent me.

This talk about low-balling offers….the card in question OP’s offer was 10% off…

The party making the d*** move in this scenario is the seller. And they have every right to make that d*** move of course, as pricing is totally under their control. They can raise it to $10,000 because OP made a 10% off offer. Let them sit on the card as long as they want. Itd be silly to structure your selling strategy around being vindictive to one buyer, but hey it’s their right. Let it affect the seller and their ability to sell it.

If I were OP I wouldn’t want to deal with the seller either going forward. (this has happened to me plenty on COMC, the ol reject and raise strategy. And whenever I come across the cards again, I’m not surprised at all they remain unsold).

[Archangel1775]

I still got that bowl for the OP. Just let me know when you want it. It'll overflow with ducks for you to eat!

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I still got that bowl for the OP. Just let me know when you want it. It'll overflow with ducks for you to eat!

You have shown that if you actually are the seller, the childish behavior is not the exception. It's just who you are. Not sure why anyone would deal with you.

[WallyatJCCards]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

The world is full of people and they are all different.

This is so true - we can't control the way others operate, sometimes people send crazy low counteroffers to my already super low offer, other times, they want a boatload and only accept 5% off asking price. I just move on, easier said than done if you want the card(s)

[NotGoSportsBall]

I will resend my previously rejected offers every few weeks to see if the seller has changed their mind yet. Sometimes they have.

I’m currently enjoying watching a card being marked down every few days, past the point of my original offer. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.