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Old 01-15-2024, 06:37 PM   #16151
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FWIW, I wouldn't open a pack or box. IMHO they are way overpriced given the odds of hitting the Brady.

To use poker terminology, it just isn't good pot odds.
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Old 01-16-2024, 08:14 AM   #16152
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agreed! i remember the SPX was in the $20K range during the pandemic. but now they are hovering just a little bit over $2K, so my question is, if this is the new normal now, then has SPX fallen off and possibly out of the top 3?
this would be quite a turn of events, if Momentum leaped SPX into 3rd. It wouldnt be unprecedented as SPA used to be the top dog until it was leapfrogged by Contenders.
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Old 01-16-2024, 12:21 PM   #16153
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I know SPX is the better brand but in my opinion Momentum is the better, and more limited card.
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Old 01-16-2024, 03:37 PM   #16154
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this would be quite a turn of events, if Momentum leaped SPX into 3rd. It wouldnt be unprecedented as SPA used to be the top dog until it was leapfrogged by Contenders.
well not only that, but SPX went from 3 to 4th now because of Limited.

now i'm wondering if it drops out of the top 5 altogether and where it ranks in the Top 10 Brady rookies.
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Old 01-16-2024, 04:02 PM   #16155
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has anybody seen the Brady market lately?

SPX has really fallen down a lot since the pandemic prices. on average, i've seen listings right around $2K. yet, Momentum is actually listed at a higher price than SPX.

i know Momentum only has 750 copies, however, this is the first time i believe i've seen where it's listed at a higher price than SPX, which was always viewed as the third best Brady rookie.

anybody see that, or do my eyes deceive me?
a lot of it continues to go down.

I'm seeing my Chrome PSA 9 go down from $8k after the Bucs Super Bowl win, to now just over $2k.

I'm pretty sure Impact PSA 10's were going for roughly $2k peak time too, now they are $900.

It seems some stuff is still dropping, maybe because over saturation by flippers trying to get out now. I honestly don't see a lot of stuff going back up in value for a little bit with Brady outside some of the obvious stuff.
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Old 01-16-2024, 04:25 PM   #16156
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FWIW, I wouldn't open a pack or box. IMHO they are way overpriced given the odds of hitting the Brady.

To use poker terminology, it just isn't good pot odds.
I would never open a loose pack. Most of the boxes had very specific numbers of parallels. I remember pulling a Brady in the third pack of Donruss and knowing there was no possible way to hit another one. I think I may have posted the break live on here. Some people would have sold the remaining packs on ebay. Just like the 86 Fleer packs you see when anyone that is able to google knows exactly what cards are in the pack based on who is showing but they always title them "POSSIBLE JORDAN!"
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Old 01-16-2024, 04:28 PM   #16157
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a lot of it continues to go down.

I'm seeing my Chrome PSA 9 go down from $8k after the Bucs Super Bowl win, to now just over $2k.

I'm pretty sure Impact PSA 10's were going for roughly $2k peak time too, now they are $900.

It seems some stuff is still dropping, maybe because over saturation by flippers trying to get out now. I honestly don't see a lot of stuff going back up in value for a little bit with Brady outside some of the obvious stuff.
yeah that's the sense i've gotten too. flippers cashed in on the cheap high grade stuff, and the ones holding the bag are trying to just cash out at this point.

that's why you've seen a dramatic price drop in a lot of his mid-high level cards, like Bowman, BC, and SPX, and also why some other brands are outselling them. it's crazy.
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Old 01-16-2024, 08:25 PM   #16158
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Lot’s laughed at me about stating the Pacific Revolution is a better card than SPX and is easily top 5. No one is giving a Revolution away. Everyone said I know nothing about card brands which they are missing the point that the rarity of a card is the key with Brady.The college uniform doesn’t matter with this card. All you troll experts from a month ago are just junk
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Old 01-16-2024, 08:27 PM   #16159
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Lot’s laughed at me about stating the Pacific Revolution is a better card than SPX and is easily top 5. No one is giving a Revolution away. Everyone said I know nothing about card brands which they are missing the point that the rarity of a card is the key with Brady.The college uniform doesn’t matter with this card. All you troll experts from a month ago are just junk
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Old 01-16-2024, 09:51 PM   #16161
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Lot’s laughed at me about stating the Pacific Revolution is a better card than SPX and is easily top 5. No one is giving a Revolution away. Everyone said I know nothing about card brands which they are missing the point that the rarity of a card is the key with Brady.The college uniform doesn’t matter with this card. All you troll experts from a month ago are just junk
You need to get outside.

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Old 01-16-2024, 10:08 PM   #16162
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Yea, laughing while SPX and BC’s are tanking. SPA’s are coming down also.
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:36 PM   #16163
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Yea, laughing while SPX and BC’s are tanking. SPA’s are coming down also.
Pretty soon Revolution will be his best rookie ever and we’ll all look like fools!
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:51 PM   #16164
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Lot’s laughed at me about stating the Pacific Revolution is a better card than SPX and is easily top 5. No one is giving a Revolution away. Everyone said I know nothing about card brands which they are missing the point that the rarity of a card is the key with Brady.The college uniform doesn’t matter with this card. All you troll experts from a month ago are just junk
the Revolution is a beautiful card, i have one myself. is it a top 5 card? i think so.

1- Contenders
2- SPA
3- Limited

4-??
5-??

i always thought 4 and 5 were SPX and BC, but Revolutions and even Momentum are on that list there.
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:53 PM   #16165
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Lot’s laughed at me about stating the Pacific Revolution is a better card than SPX and is easily top 5.
Ignore Lot, he is rude before he's had his morning cuppa.
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:55 PM   #16166
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the Revolution is a beautiful card, i have one myself. is it a top 5 card? i think so.

1- Contenders
2- SPA
3- Limited

4-Showcase
5-Momentum

i always thought 4 and 5 were SPX and BC, but Revolutions and even Momentum are on that list there.
There you go
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There you go
wow really???

so SPX and BC have fallen that far off?
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wow really???

so SPX and BC have fallen that far off?
Nah, SPX is above them but I'd take both of those over BC. BC is available any time. And those are both numbered and in an NFL uniform as well.
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There you go
That’s exactly how I’d rank them.
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Old 01-17-2024, 06:32 AM   #16171
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SPA is coming down. To me Leaf limited should be #2.

1. Contenders
2. Leaf Limited
3. SPA
4. Revolution
5. Momentum
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Old 01-17-2024, 07:15 AM   #16172
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Yea, laughing while SPX and BC’s are tanking. SPA’s are coming down also.
Almost everything is. And it will all continue to fall. Take 2019 pricing and slash that by 25-50%. That’s where Brady lands. The guy has more than two decades of playing day cards and is now retired. There’s no catalyst for growth.
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Old 01-17-2024, 08:26 AM   #16173
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I think the top 3 at this point are:
1. Contenders
2. SPA
3. LL

the next 2 I could be swayed a few different ways.

SPX, Showcase, Momentum, Revolution would probably be the ones I would choose from.

I realize it is a parallel, but where would people rank the Bowman Chrome Refractor?

I would rank it either 1 or 2. There are some days where I like my refractor better than my contenders. I am decidedly undecided on that one.
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Almost everything is. And it will all continue to fall. Take 2019 pricing and slash that by 25-50%. That’s where Brady lands. The guy has more than two decades of playing day cards and is now retired. There’s no catalyst for growth.
What was the price of a near mint rookie ticket auto in 2019?
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Old 01-17-2024, 05:59 PM   #16175
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Khaldodo keeps spewing stupid non-sense. Ruth,Mantle and Jordan say hi! Yeah all there cards are worthless decades after retirement! Man you're so ignorant. I get you cant afford the grail cards! I hate to break it to you pal they're never going to be within your budget!

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