Yordan Alvarez

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by Bambino22

The Brooklyn I mentioned above! I don't think about prices. The line of thought is more what /5 and /10 rookie cards are on auction that may never again be in future.

Pumped for Sunday. Just wondering what inning his hr will come.

Other than some 1/1’s, this is as stellar of a Yordan card as there is—among the under-appreciated sets. Awesome photo, fun retro design (presumably an alternate for the ‘78 set), and of course the thick card stock.

Reminds me of how I kept staring at the non-auto platinum for weeks or months, and just wouldn’t pull the trigger even after it dropped to below $200. Glad you pounced!


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[BGeezy]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

Other than some 1/1’s, this is as stellar of a Yordan card as there is—among the under-appreciated sets. Awesome photo, fun retro design (presumably an alternate for the ‘78 set), and of course the thick card stock.

Reminds me of how I kept staring at the non-auto platinum for weeks or months, and just wouldn’t pull the trigger even after it dropped to below $200. Glad you pounced!


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Wait, what?

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by BGeezy

Wait, what?

I thought I told you this story. Yeah, it was some time after his lost covid season, probably when he was good-not-great in ‘21.

I was still reluctant to go for online-exclusive sets at the time. But the rest of the hobby was apparently reluctant, at least about that card, as it just kept sitting, even as the price dropped a few times.


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[rngrdanny22]

I kinda hate that I never picked up a 2020 HHN Throwback Yordan.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

We all know you're going to die on your hill and that's ok, do your thing.

It's not that serious. I'm just trying to help any new people to thread who might come as a result of his playoff performance and think he's a good investment

[Htown1032]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

Yeah, it was some time after his lost covid season, probably when he was good-not-great in ‘21.


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Sounds right. I feel he’s still undervalued but 2021 was prime time for scooping up deals on his rare stuff. That’s when I came across his 2020 Dynasty 1/1 for less than 500 BIN if I recall correctly. Still have it in the PC.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Htown1032

Sounds right. I feel he’s still undervalued

He only seems undervalued if you look at him as the best hitter in baseball without the other context that crushes his hobby value: very injury prone, full time DH, and on the most hated team in the sport. His rookie stuff just can't much, if at all, with all that stuff looming over him, plus the huge supply issue

[dream34]

There is absolutely a way to buy Yordan right now. The overall huge amount of his RC cards available is making it a very affordable to lock up some of his low printed key cards. They printed a TON of Ichiro & Pujols cards in 2001. If you picked the right long term cards along the way, you did massively well. The cards they printed too much of? Maybe not so much.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by dream34

There is absolutely a way to buy Yordan right now. The overall huge amount of his RC cards available is making it a very affordable to lock up some of his low printed key cards. They printed a TON of Ichiro & Pujols cards in 2001. If you picked the right long term cards along the way, you did massively well. The cards they printed too much of? Maybe not so much.

Everything Ichiro and Pujols went up and we both know Yordan isn't in the same universe as Pujols or Ichiro hobby wise despite being nearly as good a hitter as Pujols. And we also both know that the 2020 stuff was printed a much bigger multiple and Yordan has 5 billion rookie autos. He's just a terrible investment any way you look at it. Collect for fun? Absolutely, just don't have any illusions that you'll make money. I just feel the need to protect people from making a bad purchase because I'm sure many will be thinking about it if Yordan keeps playing like this in the playoffs

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Absolutely, just don't have any illusions that you'll make money. I just feel the need to protect people from making a bad purchase because I'm sure many will be thinking about it if Yordan keeps playing like this in the playoffs

Seriously, who do you think you're protecting? You stated his PSA flagship base are $10. 2020 Autos are $100 or less. I just watched a low numbered RPA sell for $250. What exactly are you saving anyone from? I think your effort is better spent elsewhere.

[Biohazarddfl]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Everything Ichiro and Pujols went up and we both know Yordan isn't in the same universe as Pujols or Ichiro hobby wise despite being nearly as good a hitter as Pujols. And we also both know that the 2020 stuff was printed a much bigger multiple and Yordan has 5 billion rookie autos. He's just a terrible investment any way you look at it. Collect for fun? Absolutely, just don't have any illusions that you'll make money. I just feel the need to protect people from making a bad purchase because I'm sure many will be thinking about it if Yordan keeps playing like this in the playoffs

You haunt this thread too?

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[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

You haunt this thread too?

I've been right here too. The difference between this and the Guerrero thread is I never thought Yordan's performance would drop. I always said he was a top 3 hitter and now the best. The issue here is just about the clouds surrounding him that depress his hobby value and new people might not understand that those aren't gonig away

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Seriously, who do you think you're protecting? You stated his PSA flagship base are $10. 2020 Autos are $100 or less. I just watched a low numbered RPA sell for $250. What exactly are you saving anyone from? I think your effort is better spent elsewhere.

Whether his base are 10 bucks or 1000 it doesn't matter. If someone wants to invest 1000 in Yordan, it's still the same 1000 risk on Yordan

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by BBases31

It's not that serious. I'm just trying to help any new people to thread who might come as a result of his playoff performance and think he's a good investment

You've been harping on this stand since the thread started. This is his Topps base card performance that shows IF people actually listened to you, they could actually be making money on his Topps base.

[Biohazarddfl]

Originally Posted by BBases31

I've been right here too. The difference between this and the Guerrero thread is I never thought Yordan's performance would drop. I always said he was a top 3 hitter and now the best. The issue here is just about the clouds surrounding him that depress his hobby value and new people might not understand that those aren't gonig away



Whether his base are 10 bucks or 1000. If someone wants to invest 1000 in Yordan, it's still the same 1000 risk.

You seem to miss that people in these threads enjoy collecting their cards. You should start a separate thread where you just trash players card values.

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[Archangel1775]

Believe it or not, there are just regular Astros fans that have nothing to do with cards who want to add a baseball card to their shelf. Yes, for $12, $29 and $41. But there you were, Yordan is injury prone, I'll protect you, dont waste your $12. When the reality is, people could have been making $9 plus on each PSA 10.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

You've been harping on this stand since the thread started. This is his Topps base card performance that shows IF people actually listened to you, they could actually be making money on his Topps base.

Lol 3 month timeline. Let's put it back to 2022 when this thread was saying they were cheap and I was saying they were overpriced. Down at least 50%

Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

You seem to miss that people in these threads enjoy collecting their cards. You should start a separate thread where you just trash players card values.

This is a card forum. There's gonna fan talk and there's gonna be a whole lot more talk about card values

[Biohazarddfl]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Lol 3 month timeline. Let's put it back to 2022 when this thread was saying they were cheap and I was saying they were overpriced. Down at least 50%



This is a card forum. There's gonna fan talk and there's gonna be a whole lot more talk about card values

There's card talk and then there's what you do.

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[dream34]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Everything Ichiro and Pujols went up and we both know Yordan isn't in the same universe as Pujols or Ichiro hobby wise despite being nearly as good a hitter as Pujols. And we also both know that the 2020 stuff was printed a much bigger multiple and Yordan has 5 billion rookie autos. He's just a terrible investment any way you look at it. Collect for fun? Absolutely, just don't have any illusions that you'll make money. I just feel the need to protect people from making a bad purchase because I'm sure many will be thinking about it if Yordan keeps playing like this in the playoffs

Man, I really don't want to quote you at this point but just wanted to point out that Yordan's situation is not unprecedented. Maybe the research will never bear it out as this data may be impossible to find, but there was an absolute motherload of 2001 cards made. Some of them still have little to no value because they made too much. Message is very simple, don't buy those cards. There are absolutely great Yordan buys right now for long term cards that are so easy to obtain because of the glut that is available, very similar to how 2001 Ichiro/Pujols cards were affordable for a long time. This is not advice for anyone looking to make 30-50% on their Yordans in the next year, those people can never be helped no matter what.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by dream34

Man, I really don't want to quote you at this point

Don't you love it

Originally Posted by dream34

This is not advice for anyone looking to make 30-50% on their Yordans in the next year, those people can never be helped no matter what.

Very fair point

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Lol 3 month timeline. Let's put it back to 2022 when this thread was saying they were cheap and I was saying they were overpriced. Down at least 50%



This is a card forum. There's gonna fan talk and there's gonna be a whole lot more talk about card values

Thats a fair point, I have never used the site until today nor do I follow his prices religiously. I have no idea where his prices were back then but I'm assuming by your response, it was higher. Either way, the market has been slammed overall and it still doesn't change the fact you were harping on his cards being overpriced 3 months ago when they were $7 in order to save people

[jhssketchcards]

If Yordan helps Houston win another ring he and Betts will be the only real hobby relevant stars to win 2 rings. Altuve, Bregman and Verlander will have 3.
If Yordan wins WS MVP it could give his cards a lift.


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[Twalk1975]

What is he going into next year, a top 5 MVP candidate? Top 3 maybe? What does his good stuff go for relative to the other likely top MVP candidates? I really don't think he is a bad buy. And I don't know why we're still talking about 2020 base RC's.

[BGeezy]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

I thought I told you this story. Yeah, it was some time after his lost covid season, probably when he was good-not-great in ‘21.

I was still reluctant to go for online-exclusive sets at the time. But the rest of the hobby was apparently reluctant, at least about that card, as it just kept sitting, even as the price dropped a few times.


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I wasn't paying any attention to online exclusives either, wish I was... but you knew about the listing! No excuses!

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

I kinda hate that I never picked up a 2020 HHN Throwback Yordan.

You mean this? It will always be one of my top 10 favorites.

Originally Posted by Htown1032

Sounds right. I feel he’s still undervalued but 2021 was prime time for scooping up deals on his rare stuff. That’s when I came across his 2020 Dynasty 1/1 for less than 500 BIN if I recall correctly. Still have it in the PC.

His stuff was low, but his 1/1s weren't that low at the time. I think you got really lucky with a low BIN listing. It was the majestic patch 1/1, right? I don't think the seller knew what they were doing because I'm pretty sure his other 1/1s were going for $1k or more at the time.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by BGeezy

His stuff was low, but his 1/1s weren't that low at the time. I think you got really lucky with a low BIN listing. It was the majestic patch 1/1, right? I don't think the seller knew what they were doing because I'm pretty sure his other 1/1s were going for $1k or more at the time.

I know Dynasty usually has about 10 different image variations. Is there a MLB logo for each one?

[BGeezy]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I know Dynasty usually has about 10 different image variations. Is there a MLB logo for each one?

I believe Yordan has 7 variations, if I remember right. I think each variation has a different type of logo for the 1/1. One is the MLB logoman, one is the majestic manufacturer logo, one is the laundry tag, etc.