Get Your Bedard Cards Ready

[mcwildcats]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Aside from tins and gravity feed, each sku has less packs so you should get about the same number of ygs per format.

Looks like there is nothing unique in the gravity feed or blasters unlike the tins. Not sure what MSRP is on gravity feed and how many YGs you get so hard to compare to the other retail formats. But, at MSRP, the tins blow blasters away. With just 1 YG per blaster and at least 3 per tin (and maybe more likely 4) comparing $25 for blaster vs. $60 for tins is a no-brainer for the tins, especially when you add the tin-exclusive Dazzlers pack (contains Bedard) on top.

[potatozoo]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Aside from tins and gravity feed, each sku has less packs so you should get about the same number of ygs per format.

thats the first time Ive heard the term gravity feed. People remove packs from a box? And then what, sell the box with less packs?

[mcwildcats]

Originally Posted by potatozoo

thats the first time Ive heard the term gravity feed. People remove packs from a box? And then what, sell the box with less packs?

I don't know if these have been around before in UD hockey but they've been around for other sports. I've usually seen them in Targets in the U.S. and yeah they are just a bunch of loose packs in an open box. You never want to buy individual packs in stores as they are usually searchable. And it's hard to trust buying a full box online because there's usually not any kind of seal. Would want to buy a full sealed case of them I suppose.

They sometimes have some kind of exclusive parallel but I don't see one for this UD S2 release.

[JohnnyAppleseed]

Originally Posted by mcwildcats

No, they have not 100% confirmed but it's widely assumed his base YG will be in S2. There's a chance they could put his base YG in S2 and save his Canvas YG for Extended or they just put both in S2. But, he'll presumably have some cards in Extended too, whether that's Canvas YG or some parallel.

My guess was always that they're going to find a way to squeeze his canvas in S1, his base YG in S2, and lean on the retros (and now Acetates) in Extended.

It would be wild if he did have a live canvas YG in S1 but there is always the possibility of gaming it with a "mystery redemption YG canvas" that we all know is Bedard.

[Philobut]

I think they could make the Bedard Program of Excellence Canvas in series 1. It would make sense as they don't need any Blackhawks picture to do it.

[oldgoldy97]

All they need is a Bedard trade card in series 1 to blow it up.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

All they need is a Bedard trade card in series 1 to blow it up.

If they do that, which they should, all 3 series will be huge.

[anusinha]

2 assists in his preseason debut

[discostu]

Originally Posted by anusinha

2 assists in his preseason debut

And Corey Perry showed up like he always does...with a couple fists flying.

[fjf31970]

I may be stupid, but I pre-order a case of series 2. I may have pulled the trigger to fast, but I just had to do it.

[Philobut]

There you go, it now looks sold out pretty much everywhere already..

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Philobut

There you go, it now looks sold out pretty much everywhere already..

Don’t let anybody fool you. There’s NO WAY a set that is as heavily printed as this will be is sold out. They’ll always miraculously find more (at higher and higher prices).

[Bcr]

The printers will be churning through next year. There will be enough Bedard cards for everyone

[Philobut]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Don’t let anybody fool you. There’s NO WAY a set that is as heavily printed as this will be is sold out. They’ll always miraculously find more (at higher and higher prices).

Oh yeah that's for sure! I just meant the first pre-order wave

[fuzzycollects]

Originally Posted by mcwildcats

Looks like there is nothing unique in the gravity feed or blasters unlike the tins. Not sure what MSRP is on gravity feed and how many YGs you get so hard to compare to the other retail formats. But, at MSRP, the tins blow blasters away. With just 1 YG per blaster and at least 3 per tin (and maybe more likely 4) comparing $25 for blaster vs. $60 for tins is a no-brainer for the tins, especially when you add the tin-exclusive Dazzlers pack (contains Bedard) on top.

I am cautiously optimistic about what I have read about the tins. Until we see UDS1 tins come out to confirm the "at least 3 YGs" statement, I'll remain hopeful. They also state, later in the tin format description, that YGs fall at a rate of 1:3 packs. 8 packs per tin means 2.7 YG/tin. At the price point we are seeing, yes, there should definitely be at least 3 YG per tin. Remaining on the hopeful side, then factor in the YG parallels, Canvas YGs & you could see some hot tins.

As long as Bedard doesn't poop the bed, it should be a fun product year for 23/24.

[cholodolo]

For me, doesn't seem like there's going to be a ton of room for price appreciation with Bedard.

Don't see how anything organic can stem from the print run to end all print runs.

I mean, a few RPAs, SSPs, and other unique pieces will hold some value...but is anyone going to care about a Bedard YG in 10 years? When there are 100,000 others? How many PSA slabs will we see with a Bedard YG? 25,000? Someone will pay what, $10,000+ for some 1/1 or RPA in the next 6 months.

Would be curious if others view it differently.

[cbeauch87]

Originally Posted by cholodolo

For me, doesn't seem like there's going to be a ton of room for price appreciation with Bedard.

Don't see how anything organic can stem from the print run to end all print runs.

I mean, a few RPAs, SSPs, and other unique pieces will hold some value...but is anyone going to care about a Bedard YG in 10 years? When there are 100,000 others? How many PSA slabs will we see with a Bedard YG? 25,000? Someone will pay what, $10,000+ for some 1/1 or RPA in the next 6 months.

Would be curious if others view it differently.

I mean there's no shortage of Connor McDavid YG's out there, and those things ain't cheap. I believe Bedard's Young Guns will always have value. Unless he busts spectacularly or has his career cut short by injury.

[onenineeightsix]

Originally Posted by cbeauch87

I mean there's no shortage of Connor McDavid YG's out there, and those things ain't cheap. I believe Bedard's Young Guns will always have value. Unless he busts spectacularly or has his career cut short by injury.

McDavid also has spent the last 8 years making a case for the greatest to ever do it. Bedard could do the same, but I wouldn’t expect it. If you buy a case of Series 2 for $2K+ you’re losing money unless you pull a limited YG parallel. Even if his YG is $500, and you happen to get a case where you pull two of them, you’re going to lose money unless you hit a couple other really great cards. All of that being said, I’d imagine his YG ends up having 2-3 times as many copies as McDavids PLUS the parallels. Series 2 is going to be a bloodbath for many.

[potatozoo]

Originally Posted by onenineeightsix

McDavid also has spent the last 8 years making a case for the greatest to ever do it. Bedard could do the same, but I wouldn’t expect it. If you buy a case of Series 2 for $2K+ you’re losing money unless you pull a limited YG parallel. Even if his YG is $500, and you happen to get a case where you pull two of them, you’re going to lose money unless you hit a couple other really great cards. All of that being said, I’d imagine his YG ends up having 2-3 times as many copies as McDavids PLUS the parallels. Series 2 is going to be a bloodbath for many.

great post and agree with it

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by cbeauch87

I mean there's no shortage of Connor McDavid YG's out there, and those things ain't cheap. I believe Bedard's Young Guns will always have value. Unless he busts spectacularly or has his career cut short by injury.

onenineeightsix said it perfectly, and there is really no comparison between the two.

My point was times have changed since McDavid was a rookie.

Bedard is an 18 year old with a ton of hype at a time when cards are back in style and semi-profitable.

McDavid was highly touted but the hype and chase factor are 10x what it was when McDavid debuted.

[Asian62150]

What's the approx PR for McDavid YGs?

Maybe UD should make Bedard a SP. If YGs are 1:4 and there are 30, maybe the chances of hitting a Bedard should be like 1:360 instead of 1:120.

[codered]

Kind of looks like a case of series 2 tins might be the best option right now? 12 boxes x 4 yg per = 48 young guns for around $700. Sell sheet says 49 young guns in series 2 so as long as we have proper collation and no sp’s you should have a 98% chance at a CB. Even if a CB young gun is closer to $300 raw, with the other guys it wouldn’t be crazy to get back to $500 just on selling raw young guns alone. Add in the potential for the top rc’s having canvas YG’s in series two, new parallels, new inserts (never know if any of these could get popular and create value) and a dazzler pack per tin you could probably come close to getting your money back on a case if you piece everything out.

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by codered

Kind of looks like a case of series 2 tins might be the best option right now? 12 boxes x 4 yg per = 48 young guns for around $700. Sell sheet says 49 young guns in series 2 so as long as we have proper collation and no sp’s you should have a 98% chance at a CB. Even if a CB young gun is closer to $300 raw, with the other guys it wouldn’t be crazy to get back to $500 just on selling raw young guns alone. Add in the potential for the top rc’s having canvas YG’s in series two, new parallels, new inserts (never know if any of these could get popular and create value) and a dazzler pack per tin you could probably come close to getting your money back on a case if you piece everything out.

With respect, this is a fantasy.

$300 raw Bedard YG...maybe the first night.

[kellmuff]

Originally Posted by cholodolo

With respect, this is a fantasy.

$300 raw Bedard YG...maybe the first night.

Bedard YGs are going to be 500+ out of the gate

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by kellmuff

Bedard YGs are going to be 500+ out of the gate

For how long?

Pretty sure if we wait until May or June that price comes down significantly. Who is paying $500 for a non-auto YG with 100,000 on their way behind it?