Is Kyle Schwarber a HOFer?

[BoSoxFan1999]

Guess it's a good time to pick up a Schwarber Tacofractor for like 95% off prices from a week ago. LOL

[HeritageKing]

Heating up. 8 HR’s and 17 RBI’s. Hitting moon shots. Acuna who?

[HeritageKing]

Schwarbs went head to head against Teoscar this weekend and just hit a few moonshots showing everyone who really should have been in the All Star game this year. It would have been nice to have him in the derby too.

[Wolverine]

I like Schwarber, but am I the only one that sees James Corden every time I look at him?

[HeritageKing]

Can James hit them off the second deck in Philly?

[HeritageKing]

The Dodgers better move the wall back if they face the Phillies in the playoffs. In case you fell asleep Kyle hit 3 home runs last night, one to right, one to left, and one to dead center. Ohtani who?

[jhssketchcards]

In his illustrious 100 season career…

Zero seasons above 150 hits
Zero seasons above 30 2B
Zero seasons above .270 BA
Zero seasons above .960 OPS
Zero seasons above 300 TB
Zero seasons above .375 OBA
Zero Silver Sluggers
Zero seasons above 4.0 WAR
1 season above 100 RBI
1 season above 100 BB
2 seasons above 45 HR
2 All-Star Game selections
2 seasons MVP vote getter (never above 15th)
3 seasons above 150 G
Career 15.2 WAR

Unless he goes on an unreal stretch of 6-8 years the answer is no. Math nerds would have to do Olympic Gold Medal gymnastics to put him in the HOF.


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[Mightymango]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

In his illustrious 100 season career…

Zero seasons above 150 hits
Zero seasons above 30 2B
Zero seasons above .270 BA
Zero seasons above .960 OPS
Zero seasons above 300 TB
Zero seasons above .375 OBA
Zero Silver Sluggers
Zero seasons above 4.0 WAR
1 season above 100 RBI
1 season above 100 BB
2 seasons above 45 HR
2 All-Star Game selections
2 seasons MVP vote getter (never above 15th)
3 seasons above 150 G
Career 15.2 WAR

Unless he goes on an unreal stretch of 6-8 years the answer is no. Math nerds would have to do Olympic Gold Medal gymnastics to put him in the HOF.


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Those stats and career WAR tell me no. The old school thinking I have is just looking at his career BA, of .230. He would need to improve a lot of other stats besides that to even be close.

Only three players with a sub .260 BA are in the hall, and they are all still over 250.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

In his illustrious 100 season career…

Zero seasons above 150 hits
Zero seasons above 30 2B
Zero seasons above .270 BA
Zero seasons above .960 OPS
Zero seasons above 300 TB
Zero seasons above .375 OBA
Zero Silver Sluggers
Zero seasons above 4.0 WAR
1 season above 100 RBI
1 season above 100 BB
2 seasons above 45 HR
2 All-Star Game selections
2 seasons MVP vote getter (never above 15th)
3 seasons above 150 G
Career 15.2 WAR

Unless he goes on an unreal stretch of 6-8 years the answer is no. Math nerds would have to do Olympic Gold Medal gymnastics to put him in the HOF.


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Pretty shocking he's never won a Silver Slugger.

[JoshMN]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Pretty shocking he's never won a Silver Slugger.

I’m confused. Are we still talking about Kyle Schwarber? He won a silver slugger in 2022.

[premium1981]

1st ballot HOFer for sure. I would rank him #1 all time hitter for players whose last name begins with Schw. This is a fact that cannot be disputed. He also has stats from previous years, and current stats, and will have future stats. Add all of these stats together and you will end up with cumulative stats. And we all know that everyone loves cumulative stats. So the only question at this point will be how many of those cumulative stats are better as a whole than they would have been by themselves.

[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by premium1981

1st ballot HOFer for sure. I would rank him #1 all time hitter for players whose last name begins with Schw. This is a fact that cannot be disputed. He also has stats from previous years, and current stats, and will have future stats. Add all of these stats together and you will end up with cumulative stats. And we all know that everyone loves cumulative stats. So the only question at this point will be how many of those cumulative stats are better as a whole than they would have been by themselves.

The only cumulative stats that he will have are HR and Strikeouts. After 10 years he has 632 RBI, so he would have to have some monster seasons to get past 1,000. He’s 31 now and will turn 32 right before next season. Lets say he hits another 15 HR. That would end his season at 288 HR. He’d be 212 HR from 500. If he plays 5 more years he’d have to hit 42 HR per year to get that mark. It’s possible, considering the DH rule, he plays 6-7 more years at decent-good health but hitting 40 HR per year during all of those seasons is going to be tough for a guy who has played 150 games or more 2 times in 10 years. He may get to 500 HR+ but the rest of his career stats are good but not great.
That being said the modern baseball writers could put him in eventually. But with a career that will likely end with sub 1500 hits, sub 1500 runs and sub 1500 RBI for a power hitter will be tough.
He’s about 400 Ks behind Killebrew now, and even Killebrew had over 2.000 hits and 1500 RBI.

Among Schwarber’s peers that debuted around the same, and have been bounced around as possible HOFers time you have:

Mookie Betts 68.7
Jose Ramirez 49.8 WAR
Fransisco Lindor 47.1 WAR
Carlos Correa 44.2 WAR
Corey Seager 35.8 WAR
Trea Turner 35.3 WAR
Jose Abreu 30.3 WAR
Kris Bryant 27.7 WAR

Of that list Betts is the only HOF 1st ballot guy followed by Ramirez and Lindor earning 1st ballot nods if they continue their paths. Correa, Seager and Turner are all similar with Seager getting an edge with multiple WS rings in LA and Texas.
Abreu and Bryant are toast.

Schwarber has 15.2 WAR. He’s fun to watch and provides huge HR power but other than that he’s a one trick pony.


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[LCM1223]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

The only cumulative stats that he will have are HR and Strikeouts. After 10 years he has 632 RBI, so he would have to have some monster seasons to get past 1,000. He’s 31 now and will turn 32 right before next season. Lets say he hits another 15 HR. That would end his season at 288 HR. He’d be 212 HR from 500. If he plays 5 more years he’d have to hit 42 HR per year to get that mark. It’s possible, considering the DH rule, he plays 6-7 more years at decent-good health but hitting 40 HR per year during all of those seasons is going to be tough for a guy who has played 150 games or more 2 times in 10 years. He may get to 500 HR+ but the rest of his career stats are good but not great.
That being said the modern baseball writers could put him in eventually. But with a career that will likely end with sub 1500 hits, sub 1500 runs and sub 1500 RBI for a power hitter will be tough.
He’s about 400 Ks behind Killebrew now, and even Killebrew had over 2.000 hits and 1500 RBI.

Among Schwarber’s peers that debuted around the same, and have been bounced around as possible HOFers time you have:

Mookie Betts 68.7
Jose Ramirez 49.8 WAR
Fransisco Lindor 47.1 WAR
Carlos Correa 44.2 WAR
Corey Seager 35.8 WAR
Trea Turner 35.3 WAR
Jose Abreu 30.3 WAR
Kris Bryant 27.7 WAR

Of that list Betts is the only HOF 1st ballot guy followed by Ramirez and Lindor earning 1st ballot nods if they continue their paths. Correa, Seager and Turner are all similar with Seager getting an edge with multiple WS rings in LA and Texas.
Abreu and Bryant are toast.

Schwarber has 15.2 WAR. He’s fun to watch and provides huge HR power but other than that he’s a one trick pony.


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[nmh20]

You won’t find a bigger Schwarber fan than me and there’s no shot he’s getting into the Hall. That said, returning from the ACL tear to go 7-17 in the ’16 World Series including 3 hits in Game 7 is the stuff of legends.

The post-season track record, the light tower power, the vibes – he and Bryce Harper are must-see TV in the playoffs for this Cubs fan.

[Archangel1775]

He'll go down as a team legend for those World Series team, so from a hobby perspective, he'll always have value.

[HeritageKing]

Can someone who watched the Phillies/Dodgers series tell me who the better lead off hitter was in this series…Schwarbs or Ohtani. Thanks

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by HeritageKing

Can someone who watched the Phillies/Dodgers series tell me who the better lead off hitter was in this series…Schwarbs or Ohtani. Thanks

This is magnificent.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by HeritageKing

Can someone who watched the Phillies/Dodgers series tell me who the better lead off hitter was in this series…Schwarbs or Ohtani. Thanks

Need Stifle to weigh in.

[HeritageKing]

Schwarber. 7 for 12. 9 RBI. 4 HR. 3 BB
Ohtani. 2 for 12. 2 RBI. 1 HR. 0 BB

Sorry I don’t how to calculate WAR. Maybe Ohtani was better here?

[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by HeritageKing

Schwarber. 7 for 12. 9 RBI. 4 HR. 3 BB
Ohtani. 2 for 12. 2 RBI. 1 HR. 0 BB

Sorry I don’t how to calculate WAR. Maybe Ohtani was better here?

My God, using a series in a season to justify greatness over a career…


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[LCM1223]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

My God, using a series in a season to justify greatness over a career…


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It’s impressive how you keep missing the satire

[BigL7370]

He’s fun to watch.

[JRX]

16.5 career war. If he's going in then the hof needs to build a skyscraper for all the other guys they'd have to put in.

[JoshMN]

Originally Posted by JRX

16.5 career war. If he's going in then the hof needs to build a skyscraper for all the other guys they'd have to put in.

Schwarber's only 31, don't be too quick to rush to judgment. He's just about caught Derek Jeter in career defensive WAR- he's only 1 behind. He's also got a higher OPS+ and more HR than Jeter already.

I don't think you are trying to say Jeter should be kicked out of the HOF, are you?

[JRX]

Originally Posted by JoshMN

Schwarber's only 31, don't be too quick to rush to judgment. He's just about caught Derek Jeter in career defensive WAR- he's only 1 behind. He's also got a higher OPS+ and more HR than Jeter already.

I don't think you are trying to say Jeter should be kicked out of the HOF, are you?

Let's see one player has 73 fwar. Schwarber is at 16.5 with less than a third of the season left. Let's give him 4.0 war for the year which would be his career high. Only needs another 14 seasons. I'm sure he will play until 45.