I like Jackson Holliday however... - Page 2

hermanotarjeta · 06-07-2023, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

When I think of baby face, I think of Baby Face Nelson. Maybe that's why I think Ruth and not Jefferies.

Yeah, we are off. That dude has a serious don’t mess with me frown and looks like a petite grandpa.

panamamyers · 06-07-2023, 01:49 PM

Baby face has nothing to do with whether they are smiling. Holliday has the big puffy red cheeks..he certainly has a baby face.
Baby face is puffy, limited visible bone structure, red cheeks helps.

Braswell10 · 06-07-2023, 01:51 PM

The kid is 19 years old batting .331 in A+, what more do you want?

1212superstar · 06-07-2023, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

The kid is 19 years old batting .331 in A+, what more do you want?

i think hes great but his two week regression is dramatic

hermanotarjeta · 06-07-2023, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by panamamyers

Baby face has nothing to do with whether they are smiling. Holliday has the big puffy red cheeks..he certainly has a baby face.
Baby face is puffy, limited visible bone structure, red cheeks helps.

I guess it depends on your view of babies - I view infants as happy smiling ones, though I understand if some may view them as grumpy chubsters, lol.

So I will refer to Jackson as a happy baby face for now.

awz50 · 06-07-2023, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1212superstar

i think hes great but his two week regression is dramatic

Not really? Baseball prospects do this more frequently then you think

cardsin47 · 06-07-2023, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1212superstar

i remember Hedbert Perez started out on fire..like THE NEXT JUAN SOTO!!!

Now even the next Juan Soto isn’t the next Juan Soto

awz50 · 06-07-2023, 02:05 PM

This thread is funny

Braswell10 · 06-07-2023, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 1212superstar

i think hes great but his two week regression is dramatic

Listen to what you just said: "Two week regression". How can two weeks be considered a regression? Baseball is a sport full of rough weeks. Even the best players have bad weeks or months. Two weeks is not a good enough sample size. You cant expect a 19 year old kid to bat .600 through the minors without struggling whatsoever.

hermanotarjeta · 06-07-2023, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

Listen to what you just said: "Two week regression". How can two weeks be considered a regression? Baseball is a sport full of rough weeks. Even the best players have bad weeks or months. Two weeks is not a good enough sample size. You cant expect a 19 year old kid to bat .600 through the minors without struggling whatsoever.

Especially if that 19 year old kid has a happy baby face!

Merkle14 · 06-07-2023, 02:09 PM

Prospects are in the minors to DEVELOP... not accumulate stats. You have no idea what Jackson and the O's have planned or are currently working on.
Everything about Holliday to this point is very positive.

Merkle14 · 06-07-2023, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

Listen to what you just said: "Two week regression". How can two weeks be considered a regression? Baseball is a sport full of rough weeks. Even the best players have bad weeks or months. Two weeks is not a good enough sample size. You cant expect a 19 year old kid to bat .600 through the minors without struggling whatsoever.

I know people want instant results now a days but my god didn't know we were jumping off prospects after two weeks!

cardsin47 · 06-07-2023, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 1212superstar

once he hit the sun at .400 he's been something like 6 for 52 and regressed to .331...

Baseball is such a coin flip....one day the guy is fire the next two weeks a big dud...

Truth is - we won’t know if he REALLY makes it big in the Bigs until around 2035.

clocsta2323 · 06-07-2023, 02:45 PM

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Truth is - we won’t know if he REALLY makes it big in the Bigs until around 2035. As a full-time Prospector I’ve become incredibly patient and disciplined

You're also incredibly prolific at patting yourself on the back

1212superstar · 06-07-2023, 02:47 PM

two weeks is a pretty long time to regress

cardsin47 · 06-07-2023, 02:53 PM

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You're also incredibly prolific at patting yourself on the back

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Hail2TheVictors · 06-07-2023, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 1212superstar

i think hes great but his two week regression is dramatic

This your first season following baseball, pal?

Welcome to the great game of baseball. If there weren't slumps, everyone would bat .350+

And please provide me the list of hitters (drafted out of HS) who have simply been at Hi A by May (the year after they were drafted). Putting together that list may help you understand some things.

awz50 · 06-07-2023, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by clocsta2323

You're also incredibly prolific at patting yourself on the back

Brady7799 · 06-07-2023, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 1212superstar

two weeks is a pretty long time to regress

Randy Arozarena is in the middle of a two week slide. do we negate his entire season now? .286/.392/.484 slash with 11 home runs and 7 steals including the slide.

two weeks is not a long time to regress. the season is 162 and a veritable marathon. two weeks is merely a sprint, imo.

calmar · 06-07-2023, 04:10 PM

A baby face at age 19 is a plus for a baseball prospect... If you have access to Perfectgame.org you can see that Holliday was not one of those guys who was full-grown when he was 13 (he was 5-7). And he is still a young-looking 19. Contrast that with the kind of player who already looked like a man at 13 (there are a lot of those in youth baseball), and has no kind of baby face at 19 -- which one is more likely to still have a lot of potential for growth, the one who's had 6 years to get used to his full-grown body, or the one who is less physically mature at the same age and still getting used to it?

cardsin47 · 06-07-2023, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by calmar

A baby face at age 19 is a plus for a baseball prospect... If you have access to Perfectgame.org you can see that Holliday was not one of those guys who was full-grown when he was 13 (he was 5-7). And he is still a young-looking 19. Contrast that with the kind of player who already looked like a man at 13 (there are a lot of those in youth baseball), and has no kind of baby face at 19 -- which one is more likely to still have a lot of potential for growth, the one who's had 6 years to get used to his full-grown body, or the one who is less physically mature at the same age and still getting used to it?

Never thought about this before ~ interesting …..

ThoseBackPages · 06-07-2023, 04:35 PM

i am not worried

Brady7799 · 06-07-2023, 06:22 PM

just went yard for #7

he'll be just fine.

Merkle14 · 06-07-2023, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brady7799

just went yard for #7

he'll be just fine.

Idk man did you see the last two weeks

TooManyCards76 · 06-07-2023, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

LOL.

The last big MLB prospect with a baby face was Gregg jefferies. We all know how that turned out.

I know what you mean, but turning out as good as Gregg Jeffries is far from a bad outcome for a top pick… .289 / .344 / .421 slash line over 13 seasons with a 19.5 WAR ain’t too shabby. However with former #1 picks Correa, Harper, Cole, Adley, and even Strasburg make us forget about the Appel, Aiken, Moniek, Beckham outcomes that exist.

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06-07-2023, 01:49 PM	#27
panamamyers Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,898 panamamyers panamamyers	Baby face has nothing to do with whether they are smiling. Holliday has the big puffy red cheeks..he certainly has a baby face. Baby face is puffy, limited visible bone structure, red cheeks helps.

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Braswell10 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 9,472 o7star	The kid is 19 years old batting .331 in A+, what more do you want?

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Merkle14 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Virginia Posts: 702	Prospects are in the minors to DEVELOP... not accumulate stats. You have no idea what Jackson and the O's have planned or are currently working on. Everything about Holliday to this point is very positive.

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1212superstar Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 491	two weeks is a pretty long time to regress

06-07-2023, 04:10 PM	#45
calmar Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 96	A baby face at age 19 is a plus for a baseball prospect... If you have access to Perfectgame.org you can see that Holliday was not one of those guys who was full-grown when he was 13 (he was 5-7). And he is still a young-looking 19. Contrast that with the kind of player who already looked like a man at 13 (there are a lot of those in youth baseball), and has no kind of baby face at 19 -- which one is more likely to still have a lot of potential for growth, the one who's had 6 years to get used to his full-grown body, or the one who is less physically mature at the same age and still getting used to it?

06-07-2023, 06:22 PM	#48
Brady7799 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 371	just went yard for #7 he'll be just fine.