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He's 7'5 and has an 80inch wingspan. His limbs are so long that adding say 45lbs isn't going to make them much wider. I'd love to see some stuff on how he will gain mass cause squats are usually hard for 6' long legged people let alone 7'5. How do you even design a workout regiment for someone that size, there's basically no history to go off of.
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Hakeem and Yao were received with tank jobs. Tank job didn't help the Rockets because the current NBA likes to punish teams that don't follow rules. Ask the 2022-23 Mavericks.
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Not sure he can actually gain muscle mass of 45+ lbs tbh without affecting his endurance and coordination. He’s already at 230 lbs and assuming that’s accurate, I don’t know how he can handle playing a rigorous 82 game schedule + practice at 275.
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Not sure he can actually gain muscle mass of 45+ lbs tbh without affecting his endurance and coordination. He’s already at 230 lbs and assuming that’s accurate, I don’t know how he can handle playing a rigorous 82 game schedule + practice at 275. |
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That's the thing. His frame is not like Shaq or Jokic or even Smits, he's more like an even taller Durant. I can't imagine there's that much research on the human body when you get to around 7 and a half feet. Nobody know how his tendons are going to hold up especially if he gains more weight. Also, his latest year he shot under 30% from 3. I know the dream is he becomes an unblockable KD, but that's not guaranteed either.
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Loving this hype train thread full of commentary by all the health and fitness experts weighing in on his imminent injuries and target body weight. Someone definitely needs to inform him asap so he can make sure he has the appropriate resources at his disposal.
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You don’t need to be an expert to discuss this, what a dumb post. When people said Zion needed to lose weight before entering the pros, they were just stating the obvious.
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We've never seen someone that tall be that coordinated so he's obv the first pick, but we've also never seen someone that tall stay healthy. He's far from zero risk.
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It's just nature and the NBA. These are young men that aren't finished literally growing and developing yet. The goal in professional sports are for their athletes to reach peak potential. These are billion dollar teams with millions of dollars at their disposal to help them do that. Ultimately it's up to the player but Wemba could be staring at a $500 million dollar contract in the future to motivate him.
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Not like we haven't seen plenty of players get hurt early in their careers which can have a major impact goin forward, especially guys with a build like Victor.
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The bottom line is that the NBA is filled with physically mature men and even in today's softer NBA, there still is contact. Look at Chet, the first time someone bodied him up, he literally broke. Sure it was LeBron James but it's fact. Getting stronger, not necessarily bigger, is going to be important but more mass normally comes with that.
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There’s a historical precedent for players this big being injury prone
You don’t have to be a doctor to figure that out Name a single player over 7’2 who had more than a handful of healthy seasons
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Mark Eaton was amazingly healthy when he played. Only missed 9 games in his 1st 10 seasons but was also just a massive dude, not a twig.
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Kareem was one of the most durable players in NBA history. Wembanyama has a similar build.
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I’d much rather have, if given the choice, a 6’ 9” Lebron like build, than a 7’ 3” walking stick build - talent and age being equal. It reaches a point we’re height isn’t everything- and Victor is about to be the example ( I hope I’m wrong )
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So the precedent is that there is no precedent. |
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Yea man shooting 1 legged jumpers really prevents long term injuries I mean… what? You make some really dumb posts but this one is especially hilarious
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![]() That’s one tall dude …. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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The point is, he's very light on his feet..... Are you so naive that you think injury prevention has never crossed his and his team's mind? He's been working with Terry Martin since he was 16. He's been working with a movement coach for years as well. Thanks for your input, but if we need any gems from guys who predicted Anthony Edwards would suck, we know where to find you and your incredible wisdom. |
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Didn't I see on Twitter that Mark Eaton has played the most games in history for a guy 7'3' or taller? And that's 875 games
Bradley played 832 Bol played 624 Muresan played 307 Smits played 867 Sampson played 456 Ming played 486 Porzingis is at 402 Yes I realize the 7'3' cutoff is random simply because that's how tall Wembanyama is... and none of those players outside of Sampson (at the time) and Ming were even close to as talented. I realize how Twitter works Kareem was 7'2' and played a billion games It was just interesting to me about how many players as tall or taller, for whatever it's worth, than Victor have played more than the equivalent of a 10 year career It ain't many And those are the most successful ones. I have no clue how many simply flamed out
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Also go ahead and quote me where I said edwards would “suck”. You can’t, because I didn’t. You’re making up stuff because I called you out on your dumb comment. You can do better….
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