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Old 05-17-2023, 12:37 PM   #76
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45lbs on Victor wouldnt even be noticeable.
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Old 05-17-2023, 12:41 PM   #77
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Wut lol
He's 7'5 and has an 80inch wingspan. His limbs are so long that adding say 45lbs isn't going to make them much wider. I'd love to see some stuff on how he will gain mass cause squats are usually hard for 6' long legged people let alone 7'5. How do you even design a workout regiment for someone that size, there's basically no history to go off of.
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Old 05-17-2023, 12:50 PM   #78
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I keep seeing these crybaby Rockets fans talking about the lottery being rigged but if they woulda won would everyone be crying about how they got Hakeem, Yao, and now Wemby?
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Hakeem and Yao were received with tank jobs. Tank job didn't help the Rockets because the current NBA likes to punish teams that don't follow rules. Ask the 2022-23 Mavericks.
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Old 05-17-2023, 12:50 PM   #79
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Not sure he can actually gain muscle mass of 45+ lbs tbh without affecting his endurance and coordination. He’s already at 230 lbs and assuming that’s accurate, I don’t know how he can handle playing a rigorous 82 game schedule + practice at 275.
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He's 7'5 and has an 80inch wingspan. His limbs are so long that adding say 45lbs isn't going to make them much wider. I'd love to see some stuff on how he will gain mass cause squats are usually hard for 6' long legged people let alone 7'5. How do you even design a workout regiment for someone that size, there's basically no history to go off of.



Not sure he can actually gain muscle mass of 45+ lbs tbh without affecting his endurance and coordination. He’s already at 230 lbs and assuming that’s accurate, I don’t know how he can handle playing a rigorous 82 game schedule + practice at 275.
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Old 05-17-2023, 12:57 PM   #81
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Not sure he can actually gain muscle mass of 45+ lbs tbh without affecting his endurance and coordination. He’s already at 230 lbs and assuming that’s accurate, I don’t know how he can handle playing a rigorous 82 game schedule + practice at 275.
That's the thing. His frame is not like Shaq or Jokic or even Smits, he's more like an even taller Durant. I can't imagine there's that much research on the human body when you get to around 7 and a half feet. Nobody know how his tendons are going to hold up especially if he gains more weight. Also, his latest year he shot under 30% from 3. I know the dream is he becomes an unblockable KD, but that's not guaranteed either.
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Old 05-17-2023, 12:59 PM   #82
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Loving this hype train thread full of commentary by all the health and fitness experts weighing in on his imminent injuries and target body weight. Someone definitely needs to inform him asap so he can make sure he has the appropriate resources at his disposal.
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Old 05-17-2023, 01:06 PM   #83
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You don’t need to be an expert to discuss this, what a dumb post. When people said Zion needed to lose weight before entering the pros, they were just stating the obvious.
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Old 05-17-2023, 01:10 PM   #84
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We've never seen someone that tall be that coordinated so he's obv the first pick, but we've also never seen someone that tall stay healthy. He's far from zero risk.
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Loving this hype train thread full of commentary by all the health and fitness experts weighing in on his imminent injuries and target body weight. Someone definitely needs to inform him asap so he can make sure he has the appropriate resources at his disposal.
It's just nature and the NBA. These are young men that aren't finished literally growing and developing yet. The goal in professional sports are for their athletes to reach peak potential. These are billion dollar teams with millions of dollars at their disposal to help them do that. Ultimately it's up to the player but Wemba could be staring at a $500 million dollar contract in the future to motivate him.
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Loving this hype train thread full of commentary by all the health and fitness experts weighing in on his imminent injuries and target body weight. Someone definitely needs to inform him asap so he can make sure he has the appropriate resources at his disposal.
Not like we haven't seen plenty of players get hurt early in their careers which can have a major impact goin forward, especially guys with a build like Victor.
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The bottom line is that the NBA is filled with physically mature men and even in today's softer NBA, there still is contact. Look at Chet, the first time someone bodied him up, he literally broke. Sure it was LeBron James but it's fact. Getting stronger, not necessarily bigger, is going to be important but more mass normally comes with that.
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It's just nature and the NBA. These are young men that aren't finished literally growing and developing yet. The goal in professional sports are for their athletes to reach peak potential. These are billion dollar teams with millions of dollars at their disposal to help them do that. Ultimately it's up to the player but Wemba could be staring at a $500 million dollar contract in the future to motivate him.
My point was more if there's really any expert out there on 7'5 bio mechanics. Not like there's a ton of past individuals to study. Doesn't matter how many billions you have at your disposal this is basically a new field.
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There’s a historical precedent for players this big being injury prone

You don’t have to be a doctor to figure that out

Name a single player over 7’2 who had more than a handful of healthy seasons
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Not like we haven't seen plenty of players get hurt early in their careers which can have a major impact goin forward, especially guys with a build like Victor.
Oh really …. How about Chet?
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Mark Eaton was amazingly healthy when he played. Only missed 9 games in his 1st 10 seasons but was also just a massive dude, not a twig.
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Mark Eaton was amazingly healthy when he played. Only missed 9 games in his 1st 10 seasons but was also just a massive dude, not a twig.
Smits had a solid career, but similarly he also wasn't a twig.
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Kareem was one of the most durable players in NBA history. Wembanyama has a similar build.
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I’d much rather have, if given the choice, a 6’ 9” Lebron like build, than a 7’ 3” walking stick build - talent and age being equal. It reaches a point we’re height isn’t everything- and Victor is about to be the example ( I hope I’m wrong )
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There’s a historical precedent for players this big being injury prone

You don’t have to be a doctor to figure that out

Name a single player over 7’2 who had more than a handful of healthy seasons
Name a single player over 7'2 who can dunk tip their own 3-point miss. Name one who can shoot 1-legged jumpers. Name one with this type of agility?

So the precedent is that there is no precedent.
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Name a single player over 7'2 who can dunk tip their own 3-point miss. Name one who can shoot 1-legged jumpers. Name one with this type of agility?

So the precedent is that there is no precedent.
I bet you Porzingis could have if he wanted to but what does that even matter?

Yea man shooting 1 legged jumpers really prevents long term injuries I mean… what? You make some really dumb posts but this one is especially hilarious
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That’s one tall dude ….


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I bet you Porzingis could have if he wanted to but what does that even matter?

Yea man shooting 1 legged jumpers really prevents long term injuries I mean… what? You make some really dumb posts but this one is especially hilarious
I'm not the one with the braindead "no guy has ever done before, derrr" statement.

The point is, he's very light on his feet.....

Are you so naive that you think injury prevention has never crossed his and his team's mind? He's been working with Terry Martin since he was 16. He's been working with a movement coach for years as well.

Thanks for your input, but if we need any gems from guys who predicted Anthony Edwards would suck, we know where to find you and your incredible wisdom.
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Didn't I see on Twitter that Mark Eaton has played the most games in history for a guy 7'3' or taller? And that's 875 games

Bradley played 832
Bol played 624
Muresan played 307
Smits played 867
Sampson played 456
Ming played 486
Porzingis is at 402

Yes I realize the 7'3' cutoff is random simply because that's how tall Wembanyama is... and none of those players outside of Sampson (at the time) and Ming were even close to as talented. I realize how Twitter works

Kareem was 7'2' and played a billion games

It was just interesting to me about how many players as tall or taller, for whatever it's worth, than Victor have played more than the equivalent of a 10 year career

It ain't many

And those are the most successful ones. I have no clue how many simply flamed out
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I'm not the one with the braindead "no guy has ever done before, derrr" statement.

The point is, he's very light on his feet.....

Are you so naive that you think injury prevention has never crossed his and his team's mind? He's been working with Terry Martin since he was 16. He's been working with a movement coach for years as well.

Thanks for your input, but if we need any gems from guys who predicted Anthony Edwards would suck, we know where to find you and your incredible wisdom.
Where did I say “no guy has ever” go ahead and quote me… I’ll wait.

Also go ahead and quote me where I said edwards would “suck”. You can’t, because I didn’t.

You’re making up stuff because I called you out on your dumb comment. You can do better….
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