Platinum Card Breaks "G" Caught Trying to Steal a Redemption

[hche]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

For people up in the air about this

Just watch the first minute of the second video. Part 2

They’re is nothing to discus. He stole it. Plain and simple

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFApEK4UxFQ

That's the part that got me into believing he knew what he was doing.

Originally Posted by TDK39

I was shocked how many of their loyal members were defending them during the live vid on youtube last night. WOW

And their rebuttal makes zero sense. They all said Plat is big, they wont steal a small card, we all received the big hits that were shown, blah blah blah....... but how about the hits that weren't shown?

[cking]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

You are who you associate with!


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I agree.

However, what does that say about all the people who still deal with PWCC?

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

Probably nothing shady at all in those videos

I have to imagine a few people archived them when this first came out.

[whoshotjr]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Instead, he hid the fact that he was holding a box and tried to play it off like it came out of the trash.

That's the worst part.

* Break stops because chat said a redemption was missed
* Instantly grabs the box set aside
* Yells at guy to bring the trash back
* Makes a huge show of the trash being brought back and wants the camera pointed at it
* Then with the camera moved, palms the box to hide it, and then moves back and obstructs the trash view which was previously a huge deal



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[Cheddar]

Originally Posted by Grid

If they fired him, that is an admission of guilt. I actually think it would work against them if they did it.

It would be D believing that his brother-in-law was doing something shady...not that the whole operation is guilty (both of which I believe are true).

[mfisher27]

Ignorance or malice, take your pick. Neither are a good look.

[Bob Ross]

[lemongoat1134]

So the best case scenario is he threw away a $7,000 card lol

[TheFrenzy]

Let's see what level in the Narcissist's Prayer we reach before this is all over.

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by Grizzkid12

The video of what he did was way too long/boring and inconclusive for my taste

I watched his apology video and dude has a point. All of the people trolling weren’t buying with them anyways.

In 2022 everyone has an opinion and voice and rushes to jump in and give their opinion because they can.

Knowing his/their history and the cards they have pulled along with what it takes to do even a fraction of the numbers they are doing, I doubt he purposely stole the card, but I’ll never know for sure, just like nobody else will know for sure that he did

Oh, and this is coming from a direct competitor, and one whom he has trolled in their YouTube chat in the past for no reason at all

This is one of the worst takes I've read on here in a long time.

Stealing the card aside, The guy is an unprofessional scumbag right off the bat.

[footfutbol]

Originally Posted by lemongoat1134

So the best case scenario is he threw away a $7,000 card lol

This card is turning into Gob's suit in Arrested Devlopment. Next week it will be $25k card.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by footfutbol

This card is turning into Gob's suit in Arrested Devlopment. Next week it will be $25k card.

Chyeah right, the guy with the $500,000 breaker job is gonna stop a break to steal a $50,000 Fields shield - CMON

[Boo]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

This is one of the worst takes I've read on here in a long time.

Stealing the card aside, The guy is an unprofessional scumbag right off the bat.

Apparently you haven't read his posts in the basketball forum.

[CableRock]

Okay I did my best to transcribe just a little bit of the video here. This is NOT related to the attempted stealing of the redemption, but I thought it was at the very least, EXTREMELY telling of something. If somebody treated me like this in public I'd walk right that second. This is supposed to be his employee I guess.


@7:35 Fat Guy walks in and says to the assistant dude:
"move, get the #@#@#@#@ out of the way. Take the garbage out. Damnit
Hey I need one more garbage too.

Then shortly thereafter.

@8:10
FG "Aus - Me, just so you know. Me, and um.. Jojo have been
talking"
Aus- "okay"
FG- "And I think that you're gonna be fired soon"
Aus- "Is that so?"
FG- "I'm dead serious"
Aus- "Really?"
FG- "Yes"
Aus- "Okay"
FG- "I'm not kidding you bro"
Aus- "I'm not either"


1 - this guys treats his employees like garbage. 2 - if he was not just hamming it up for the camera to throw suspicion off his hands, he did it in the most disrespectful way possible to an employee. If you need to have that conversation do it in private. ESPECIALLY do not do it in front of an audience.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by CableRock

Okay I did my best to transcribe just a little bit of the video here. This is NOT related to the attempted stealing of the redemption, but I thought it was at the very least, EXTREMELY telling of something. If somebody treated me like this in public I'd walk right that second. This is supposed to be his employee I guess.


@7:35 Fat Guy walks in and says to the assistant dude:
"move, get the #@#@#@#@ out of the way. Take the garbage out. Damnit
Hey I need one more garbage too.

Then shortly thereafter.

@8:10
FG "Aus - Me, just so you know. Me, and um.. Jojo have been
talking"
Aus- "okay"
FG- "And I think that you're gonna be fired soon"
Aus- "Is that so?"
FG- "I'm dead serious"
Aus- "Really?"
FG- "Yes"
Aus- "Okay"
FG- "I'm not kidding you bro"
Aus- "I'm not either"


1 - this guys treats his employees like garbage. 2 - if he was not just hamming it up for the camera to throw suspicion off his hands, he did it in the most disrespectful way possible to an employee. If you need to have that conversation do it in private. ESPECIALLY do not do it in front of an audience.

Wonder what the HR department looks like

[Grizzkid12]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Makes perfect sense that Grizzchild is a breaker.

I took a vow to do my best and stop personally attacking others on here, so i will let this one slide.

Along with the other useless responses and things like saying "the hobby will be better when people like me leave"

I think that statement time and time again when I see/hear certain people or influencers speak, but I also know in my heart of hearts I am the exact demographic I wish we had more of in this hobby.

I eat, sleep & breathe this hobby, but also don't take myself super seriously and do the things that I find off putting and make me cringe.

I don't think I've ever sent a card back that I purchased online whether it be because of a flaw I didn't see in pics (and I don't inspect pics like a double agent) or any other reason. I open what I can afford for myself because I still get joy out of opening packs like a kid. I probably sell about 1% of anything I pack pull and have never bought a single in my life with the intention of reselling it. I don't haggle on prices, I have pulled exactly zero scams in my life and go above and beyond to be honest and forthcoming with anyone I buy/sell from.

But yea, that's definitely the kind of collector we should hope leaves. Lets just continue letting the influencers take over, the greedy/seedy dealers do their thing and the sports card geeks that put together videos like this exposing scammers and trolling/blackballing/bullying them on all forms of social media. That definitely should put the hobby in a good place to grow.

[Grizzkid12]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Stealing a non-redemption card would be tough because it would be easy to see left in a pack/box - so I don't think they've had an opportunity to do this scam with a real card.

So then how many products have possible redemptions on the bottom of the box? Most redemptions in low to mid products are in the middle and in a pack, not a box. NT, Flawless, Immac, Noir, Opulence are the products that come to mind where a redemption could be and is typically on the bottom of the box.

Basically what I'm saying is that they haven't had endless opportunities - they can only do this scam with certain products. I don't want to watch any more of this sweaty dude yelling at me so hopefully others do the detective work to see if they've pulled it off in other breaks of NT, Immac, Flawless, Noir, etc.

If they've pulled a huge 1/1 card or some 6 figure card, it absolutely does not prove that this Fields redemption wasn't a scam. Totally different opportunity.

Completely valid. We will see if others pull up more of this stuff (I'm sure they are trying now). If he did steal that Fields I'm sure it's not the first time

[CableRock]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Wonder what the HR department looks like

An even fatter, louder guy.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Grizzkid12

I took a vow to do my best and stop personally attacking others on here, so i will let this one slide.

Along with the other useless responses and things like saying "the hobby will be better when people like me leave"

I think that statement time and time again when I see/hear certain people or influencers speak, but I also know in my heart of hearts I am the exact demographic I wish we had more of in this hobby.

I eat, sleep & breathe this hobby, but also don't take myself super seriously and do the things that I find off putting and make me cringe.

I don't think I've ever sent a card back that I purchased online whether it be because of a flaw I didn't see in pics (and I don't inspect pics like a double agent) or any other reason. I open what I can afford for myself because I still get joy out of opening packs like a kid. I probably sell about 1% of anything I pack pull and have never bought a single in my life with the intention of reselling it. I don't haggle on prices, I have pulled exactly zero scams in my life and go above and beyond to be honest and forthcoming with anyone I buy/sell from.

But yea, that's definitely the kind of collector we should hope leaves. Lets just continue letting the influencers take over, the greedy/seedy dealers do their thing and the sports card geeks that put together videos like this exposing scammers and trolling/blackballing/bullying them on all forms of social media. That definitely should put the hobby in a good place to grow.

Nobody asked for your sob story.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by koneil

I suppose I disagree with this notion that the scam attempt was as cut and dry tossing aside the Justin Fields auto and hoping his stream didn't notice. Are boxes guaranteed autos? I legitimately don't know much about NT so I don't know how commonplace it would be to just tell your customers they got shorted an auto. Which is what he would've had to do if they hadn't noticed right? Unless he involved a swap in which case the value of the Fields became relevant. I agree it does not matter in the case of theft in principle. Totally understood there

If you don't know about NT, or maybe even breaks, then I really don't understand why you would disagree with anything anyone is saying.

NT, as many other higher end Panini brands, typically have the redemption at the bottom/top of the box. And they are mostly white, which blends in with the inside of the box itself. Making it an easier grift to pull off.

Opening and stacking all the cards from the case in one big pile, makes it much less obvious that a single card was missing.

If it was you, opening a case on your own, box by box, I am sure you would have noticed a missing hit.

In this case, it was a group break by team. So, your focus at the end of the break was if you hit anything, with your 1 in 32 chance. And not recounting all the possible hits there should have been. Which again, would make doing something like this easier to do.

[Grizzkid12]

Originally Posted by Grid

And spoken like a direct competitor. When bad breakers get exposed, its bad for the brand of all breakers. The entire industry is built on trust. And if people start questioning breakers, that inherently is bad for you.

So I completely understand why you made this post.

With that said, why does it matter if someone has broken with them before? Those opinions somehow don't qualify? Shouldn't it be the other way around, and the loyalists or those with a direct interest in Platinum should have their opinions taken with a grain of salt?

After all, sports bring in refs, judges and umpires since you cant have the players decide what infractions happened. Those not involved directly in the game, should have the most just opinion I'd think.

Actually some good, constructive points above. I didn't think about it as being another black eye for the hobby/breakers, but I can see where it would come off that I am biased and that'a a fair conclusion to make.

The only thing I was getting at when I mentioned the someone who has never broken with them before part was that there is always a lot of chatter/chirping when something like this happens and everyone gives their opinion.

If I were them (assuming he is innocent and it was just a mistake) I would have to block out the noise and remind myself that these people aren't important. They're just here for the show and trying to jump on an online bully bandwagon where the majority of people talking didn't even know who he was a day ago and have never/ would never have never spent a dollar with him

If he is guilty, he does deserve to be exposed, but I think there is far too much guilty until proven innocent in this hobby currently and there are a ton of "hobbyists" on social media who all feel the need to pile on when they smell blood in the water.

[heatdawg]

The saddest part to this story is that I am not shocked at all. I would not be surprised if 20-30% of breakers rip off their customers.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Grid

If you don't know about NT, or maybe even breaks, then I really don't understand why you would disagree with anything anyone is saying.

NT, as many other higher end Panini brands, typically have the redemption at the bottom/top of the box. And they are mostly white, which blends in with the inside of the box itself. Making it an easier grift to pull off.

Opening and stacking all the cards from the case in one big pile, makes it much less obvious that a single card was missing.

If it was you, opening a case on your own, box by box, I am sure you would have noticed a missing hit.

In this case, it was a group break by team. So, your focus at the end of the break was if you hit anything, with your 1 in 32 chance. And not recounting all the possible hits there should have been. Which again, would make doing something like this easier to do.

Exactly. And Plat is very sloppy with their breaks because they have no incentive to do it the right way. People line up left and right to piss away money with them no matter what they get exposed for.

[CanadianKid]

Originally Posted by whoshotjr

That's the worst part.

* Break stops because chat said a redemption was missed
* Instantly grabs the box set aside
* Yells at guy to bring the trash back
* Makes a huge show of the trash being brought back and wants the camera pointed at it
* Then with the camera moved, palms the box to hide it, and then moves back and obstructs the trash view which was previously a huge deal



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SPOT ON!

[Grizzkid12]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Nobody asked for your sob story.

There were a lot of comments based on my post somewhat defending him so I decided to explain where my head was at to the majority of them and what some had said about "collectors like me"

I appreciate your feedback though

(I'm trying very hard TSonn)