Topps Living Set

[TarjetasBéisbol]

Originally Posted by cj828282

Wander has been released. Does it have a higher PR than Acuna's Living Set card?

Acuna was 46809, I say Wander Franco ends up at least 80k and maybe even double what Acuna had. Sure there is no Spring Training right now but people are really chasing after Waner cards and even it has a huge print run it will still be a SP card compared to the other releases.

[1989FF]

Originally Posted by jaredkelley

It'll be nice if the Wander card gets a few more collectors interested in the Living Set.

Confirmed. Wander will be my first Living Set purchase. I've over looked them for no real reason. Recently I find myself shifting to limited and/or known print runs of cards. Too many choices anymore. I like from what little I've seen and without a doubt will purchase more. Great job, nice to meet you and enjoy it as it seems you do.

Donovan

As for PR my guess is 71,021

[eldavojohn]

Official guess post (I'll bite the bullet and keep this updated):
astrotrevor: 8,547
The Artist: 10,410
tscbaseball: 34,159
JaCrispy1: 37,400
eldavojohn: 42,109
jdandns: 44,485
Kek5270: 46,810
VinnyH: 52,910
Chihuahuas: 54,000
rebbrooks: 59,000
kidfan9: 61,776
astroshane: 63,000
Joliet Jake: 63,897
Fsegaud: 65,323
Thebirdman321: 69,696
1989FF: 71,021
TUAlum96: 72,484
aanewport: 75,381
TarjetasBéisbol: 80,000
psochaps: 99,000
trmpetyjo: 140,000

[aanewport]

My guess is 75,381 the print run total for Acuna (46,809) and Soto (28,572) combined!

[jaredkelley]

Originally Posted by 1989FF

Confirmed. Wander will be my first Living Set purchase. I've over looked them for no real reason. Recently I find myself shifting to limited and/or known print runs of cards. Too many choices anymore. I like from what little I've seen and without a doubt will purchase more. Great job, nice to meet you and enjoy it as it seems you do.

Donovan

As for PR my guess is 71,021

Welcome to the Living Set!!!! Thank you for purchasing a Wander card too. It helps me keep this dream job going.

I'm always checking out this thread so if you ever have any suggestions for improvement or questions about the set in general, let us know. Plenty of good collectors on this thread who will gladly assist you.

[jaredkelley]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

Official guess post (I'll bite the bullet and keep this updated):
eldavojohn: 42,109
VinnyH: 52,910
TarjetasBéisbol: 80,000
1989FF: 71,021
aanewport: 75,381

I hope any one of these print run guesses are spot on. I've already taken out a loan for a new extension on my home and I need a big payday to pay for it.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by jaredkelley

Welcome to the Living Set!!!! Thank you for purchasing a Wander card too. It helps me keep this dream job going.

I'm always checking out this thread so if you ever have any suggestions for improvement or questions about the set in general, let us know. Plenty of good collectors on this thread who will gladly assist you.

Look I'm somewhere between a dog walking on a laptop running MSPaint and Bob Ross' hairstylist. But one thing that interests me is the sort of color halo that can work into our backgrounds surrounding the immediate subject. Is this artistic preference or just a hard thing to avoid with that medium? For example on the Wander:

Not criticizing, just curious.

Originally Posted by jaredkelley

I hope any one of these print run guesses are spot on. I've already taken out a loan for a new extension on my home and I need a big payday to pay for it.

... roll tide? jk, JK. What's your guess on Print Run? I might offer a prize to the closest guess.

[jaredkelley]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

Look I'm somewhere between a dog walking on a laptop running MSPaint and Bob Ross' hairstylist. But one thing that interests me is the sort of color halo that can work into our backgrounds surrounding the immediate subject. Is this artistic preference or just a hard thing to avoid with that medium? For example on the Wander:

Not criticizing, just curious.

... roll tide? jk, JK. What's your guess on Print Run? I might offer a prize to the closest guess.

It's totally preference. I like to soften color transitions in some areas of a portrait. I feel it makes the final product more "painterly". I've always been a fan of graffiti and airbrush work and the mists of color that go past their boundaries is a trademark feature in such art. I guess I've absorbed some of that in my work.

In the vignette you posted, at the hat line near the side of Franco's head, you can see an example of where my base drawing is peaking through the layers of paint, causing a dark streak (which is the charcoal shading under the painting) that increases the contrast of the light hitting that portion of the hat. I like that kind of heightened contrast.

Another section to look at is the MLB tattoo on Wander's neck. It shows the dark charcoal outline as well as a little burst of light color I airbrushed to enhance the contrast between Wander's neck and the background.



While I love seeing the colors mix with each other past their boundaries (Look at the columns of white rising off Wander's shirt), I try to avoid the artistic markings that may register more as a scratch or blemish when viewed on a small trading card. Sometimes I have to photoshop out cool pencil markings and hard brushstrokes found on the original painting.

As for the Print Run..... I feel awkward guessing. If I say a huge number then it looks boastful. If I say what my first instinct was, it looks super pessimistic compared to the numbers others have already given. But I'm just hoping to achieve my first 5 figure print run on the Living Set. That would be the greatest thrill for me. I'll go with 10,410.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by jaredkelley

It's totally preference. I like to soften color transitions in some areas of a portrait. I feel it makes the final product more "painterly". I've always been a fan of graffiti and airbrush work and the mists of color that go past their boundaries is a trademark feature in such art. I guess I've absorbed some of that in my work.

That's really interesting, thanks for your response. I'm honestly on the fence about it but I will say that it's an awesome contrast to Seto's razor sharp colored pencil work. I guess there's a bit of OCD in me that just loves your full vibrant colors and any bleed interferes with that deep rich field/interferes with abutting contrast. I can definitely feel the graffiti-ness of it and respect that. Definitely an interesting artistic style. Looking back at my question, probably a stupid one considering you can pain the hat details no problem.

Originally Posted by jaredkelley

In the vignette you posted, at the hat line near the side of Franco's head, you can see an example of where my base drawing is peaking through the layers of paint, causing a dark streak (which is the charcoal shading under the painting) that increases the contrast of the light hitting that portion of the hat. I like that kind of heightened contrast.

Another section to look at is the MLB tattoo on Wander's neck. It shows the dark charcoal outline as well as a little burst of light color I airbrushed to enhance the contrast between Wander's neck and the background.

While I love seeing the colors mix with each other past their boundaries (Look at the columns of white rising off Wander's shirt), I try to avoid the artistic markings that may register more as a scratch or blemish when viewed on a small trading card. Sometimes I have to photoshop out cool pencil markings and hard brushstrokes found on the original painting.

Is this really necessary? It doesn't seem necessary. Can you provide any instances where you think it looks like a scratch? I don't think any of Seto's cards look like scratches -- but yeah then again they're not against paintbrush strokes. I think the way the cards are printed, it's pretty easy to see what is fine detail in the work and what is a surface scratch. I've collected a lot of the star wars living set and no fine details have ever looked like scratches in hand.

Originally Posted by jaredkelley

As for the Print Run..... I feel awkward guessing. If I say a huge number then it looks boastful. If I say what my first instinct was, it looks super pessimistic compared to the numbers others have already given. But I'm just hoping to achieve my first 5 figure print run on the Living Set. That would be the greatest thrill for me. I'll go with 10,410.

Are you missing a zero? He doesn't believe in himself!

And no cheating! Don't guess 100k and then go and buy 90k of them

[trmpetyjo]

If the Project 2020 Griffey can get to 96k pr with a weeks worth of hype then the Wander could easily get to 140k. Everybody coming out of the woodwork on this one, gonna order at least five or ten copies, and all the regulars are gonna order at least 20.

[Joliet Jake]

I ordered 5 copies of the Wander. This is the first time I've ordered more than 1 of a Living Set card.

I'll guess the print run will finish at 63,897.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by trmpetyjo

If the Project 2020 Griffey can get to 96k pr with a weeks worth of hype then the Wander could easily get to 140k. Everybody coming out of the woodwork on this one, gonna order at least five or ten copies, and all the regulars are gonna order at least 20.

Uhhhh at the time those Shore Griffeys were placed, a $15 Ermsy Trout was selling for $2200 all day. So ... no, that is not a valid comparison.

[Chihuahuas]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

Official guess post (I'll bite the bullet and keep this updated):
eldavojohn: 42,109
VinnyH: 52,910
TarjetasBéisbol: 80,000
1989FF: 71,021
aanewport: 75,381
The Artist: 10,410
trmpetyjo: 140,000
Joliet Jake: 63,897

I ordered 5 and guess 54,000.
I hope has large print run and reinvigorates interest (and orders) on this unique set and awe inspiring artwork.

[jaredkelley]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

Is this really necessary? It doesn't seem necessary. Can you provide any instances where you think it looks like a scratch?

Digital touch-ups are definitely worth the time. It's usually the darkest areas of my portraits that will showcase the imperfections the most. Any crumb or brush hair that gets painted over will stand out like a sore thumb when I light it for photographing. You can see several specks in the original Wander photo before I edited it.

I probably could have left those speck in the photo and they'd go unnoticed in the print of the card, but I don't like to leave it to chance.



I started digitally removing the specks and scratches when I saw how horrible the Alomar card came out. In the beginning, I used to prep my substrate with a brush and thick globs of gesso. This would leave noticeable brush marks and texture on the surface, which I used to love when I painted portraits for past clients. But once I saw how the surface texture translated into scratch-like striations on the cards, I changed my preparation process. I now roll out the gesso with an extra smooth cigar roller. This eliminates 98% of the surface imperfections I was getting when I photographed my work. The first 5-6 Living Set portraits I submitted to Topps had these distinct striations. I honestly wish I could redo them all on the new smoother substrates I currently use.

[TUAlum96]

Originally Posted by jaredkelley

Digital touch-ups are definitely worth the time. It's usually the darkest areas of my portraits that will showcase the imperfections the most. Any crumb or brush hair that gets painted over will stand out like a sore thumb when I light it for photographing. You can see several specks in the original Wander photo before I edited it.

I probably could have left those speck in the photo and they'd go unnoticed in the print of the card, but I don't like to leave it to chance.



I started digitally removing the specks and scratches when I saw how horrible the Alomar card came out. In the beginning, I used to prep my substrate with a brush and thick globs of gesso. This would leave noticeable brush marks and texture on the surface, which I used to love when I painted portraits for past clients. But once I saw how the surface texture translated into scratch-like striations on the cards, I changed my preparation process. I now roll out the gesso with an extra smooth cigar roller. This eliminates 98% of the surface imperfections I was getting when I photographed my work. The first 5-6 Living Set portraits I submitted to Topps had these distinct striations. I honestly wish I could redo them all on the new smoother substrates I currently use.

This is fascinating stuff. Thank you for giving us some insight into your process.

Also, 72,484

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by jaredkelley

Digital touch-ups are definitely worth the time. It's usually the darkest areas of my portraits that will showcase the imperfections the most. Any crumb or brush hair that gets painted over will stand out like a sore thumb when I light it for photographing. You can see several specks in the original Wander photo before I edited it.

I probably could have left those speck in the photo and they'd go unnoticed in the print of the card, but I don't like to leave it to chance.

Awww I like the imperfections, I liked that effect on the Alomar.

[Joliet Jake]

Jared, can we expect another artist auto release this weekend?

[jaredkelley]

Originally Posted by Joliet Jake

Jared, can we expect another artist auto release this weekend?

Yes - I talked with WheelerCollections today and the next three artist-signed card giveaways should be announced sometime this afternoon/evening. It'll run to Monday (2/28/22) 10pm EST.

I think these are the next 3 on deck for tonight:

German Marquez
Tommy Edman
Jake Cronenworth

[Joliet Jake]

Originally Posted by jaredkelley

Yes - I talked with WheelerCollections today and the next three artist-signed card giveaways should be announced sometime this afternoon/evening. It'll run to Monday (2/28/22) 10pm EST.

I think these are the next 3 on deck for tonight:

German Marquez
Tommy Edman
Jake Cronenworth

We got Edman, Cronenworth, and Chisholm.

[eldavojohn]

Hope everyone's having a great weekend! I am dissappointed more people aren't guessing the PR on this thread so in a bid to draw more attention to this set and this awesome Franco card and the amazing work of Mayumi Seto & Jared Kelley, I'm giving away to the closest guess a 2022 Topps Series 1 Wander Franco RC #215 and #329 Slugger Reunion also featuring Wander Franco. Tracking guesses in this post. You can see the exact award cards here:





After the print run is placed in the title of the card, I will contact the winner and ask them for mailing address and send the cards in semirigids in a double stamped PWE. Only rules are nobody on my ignore list will be elligible and you can only guess while the Franco living set card is available, you only get one guess and no changing guesses.

[VinnyH]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

…you only get one guess and no changing guesses.

But, but, but…. I think I’m low…

Vinny

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by VinnyH

But, but, but…. I think I’m low…

Vinny

Yeah, I know there's going to be "No fair, you changed the outcome by drawing attention to it" I just don't want people getting into price is righting fights lol

Tell your friends and tell them you're low and get them looking at these cards

[jaredkelley]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

Hope everyone's having a great weekend! I am dissappointed more people aren't guessing the PR on this thread so in a bid to draw more attention to this set and this awesome Franco card and the amazing work of Mayumi Seto & Jared Kelley, I'm giving away to the closest guess a 2022 Topps Series 1 Wander Franco RC #215 and #329 Slugger Reunion also featuring Wander Franco. Tracking guesses in this post. You can see the exact award cards here:

I'll sweeten the pot too. I'll mail the collector with the winning print run guess an artist-signed version of the Living Set Franco card. It'll be signed in ink, similar to the ink signed versions I offer on my site (see example below). I won't be able to mail it to the collector until my order from Topps arrives to me so there could be a week or two wait. I'll get the winner's mailing address from eldavojohn. Good luck!

[psochaps]

Wander is going to be like the Griffey card of Project 70!
I’m guessing…… 99,000

[rebbrooks]

I'll play. My guess will be 59,000.
Edit: Wanted to add that this is an awesome set and both the artists are great.