rolling wal mart/other store stock thread. - Page 95

BRob1 · 12-10-2021, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cardmike

Has any actually got in an order for BJ's? I signed up for the one day membership this morning, but have yet to catch it in stock.

it went in stock around 1030 last night pst then eventually sold out.

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STLtoMN · 12-10-2021, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cardmike

Has any actually got in an order for BJ's? I signed up for the one day membership this morning, but have yet to catch it in stock.

caught it in stock but by the time i entered my info it was gone

DioBrando · 12-10-2021, 07:53 PM

Stopped in Meijers and saw the most cards I've seen in a long time. Blasters of Update, HHN, Archives, and Donruss.

PSA2Pac · 12-13-2021, 11:40 AM

Optic b ball has been done, anybody seeing Chronicles NBA out there yet? Mosaic maybe this week?

I haven’t caught anything in store since Select b ball, was hoping to scoop some retail b ball before Christmas for the kiddos.

Sounds like Flux will be the last retail b ball product for the year, wonder if we do t see it til January?

TimBuckTwo · 12-13-2021, 11:46 AM

Nothing today at my WM.

cj828282 · 12-13-2021, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PSA2Pac

Optic b ball has been done, anybody seeing Chronicles NBA out there yet? Mosaic maybe this week?

I haven’t caught anything in store since Select b ball, was hoping to scoop some retail b ball before Christmas for the kiddos.

Sounds like Flux will be the last retail b ball product for the year, wonder if we do t see it til January?

Saw some NBA Chronicles hanger boxes at a local WM on Friday.

JeremyNick · 12-13-2021, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PSA2Pac

Optic b ball has been done, anybody seeing Chronicles NBA out there yet? Mosaic maybe this week?

I haven’t caught anything in store since Select b ball, was hoping to scoop some retail b ball before Christmas for the kiddos.

Sounds like Flux will be the last retail b ball product for the year, wonder if we do t see it til January?

Mosaic has to drop in the next week or two.

jkampis · 12-13-2021, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PSA2Pac

Optic b ball has been done, anybody seeing Chronicles NBA out there yet? Mosaic maybe this week?

I haven’t caught anything in store since Select b ball, was hoping to scoop some retail b ball before Christmas for the kiddos.

Sounds like Flux will be the last retail b ball product for the year, wonder if we do t see it til January?

40-50 hangers of Chronicles NBA at local Walmart this morning.

Also a bunch of Gems of the Game NBA and NFL slabs.

crazygrover · 12-13-2021, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jkampis

40-50 hangers of Chronicles NBA at local Walmart this morning.

Also a bunch of Gems of the Game NBA and NFL slabs.

My local Walmart also had about 50 of the hangers. Didn’t see any of the Gems of the Game.

cowboyzqna · 12-13-2021, 12:40 PM

I'm not messing with chronic this year .. would be really happy if I find some mosaic to rip next week.

My Walmarts is getting so much product right now... It's all the less desirable sets but still awesome to see

WalterAZ31 · 12-13-2021, 12:43 PM

chronicles is junk......its only pink parallels and TONS of base. and then like one subset with parallels /199 and one subset of Auto but its panini retail so good luck pulling autos of anyone decent

in years past id buy it all up when found without a second thought, but when you realize how little value there is, just have to wise up

Allamericancard · 12-13-2021, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

chronicles is junk......its only pink parallels and TONS of base. and then like one subset with parallels /199 and one subset of Auto but its panini retail so good luck pulling autos of anyone decent

in years past id buy it all up when found without a second thought, but when you realize how little value there is, just have to wise up

it's funny you can "age" people in the hobby based upon their takes on chronicles lol I remember everyone going crazy for 2019 chronicles basketball, then everyone realized the 20 zion/jas they got in a blaster were worth nothing, then same thing with new folks for chronicles football and now we will see who the new folks are again with 20 chronicles basketball.

k13 · 12-13-2021, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Allamericancard

it's funny you can "age" people in the hobby based upon their takes on chronicles lol I remember everyone going crazy for 2019 chronicles basketball, then everyone realized the 20 zion/jas they got in a blaster were worth nothing, then same thing with new folks for chronicles football and now we will see who the new folks are again with 20 chronicles basketball.

They were going crazy because everything sold well.
Those Zions were all $20+ at one point.

No one cares now because nothing sells.

Lamelo optic is not even $20 now so chronicles will be all trash even the numbered cards sell like crap.

You can't grade it so its pointless.

WalterAZ31 · 12-13-2021, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Allamericancard

it's funny you can "age" people in the hobby based upon their takes on chronicles lol I remember everyone going crazy for 2019 chronicles basketball, then everyone realized the 20 zion/jas they got in a blaster were worth nothing, then same thing with new folks for chronicles football and now we will see who the new folks are again with 20 chronicles basketball.

its a shame they cant make it more like Chronicles Baseball. you can pull multiple different types of parallels and autos in retail baseball, but for some reason for Football/Basketball/UFC, the retail release is very neutered/watered down

mcwildcats · 12-13-2021, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

its a shame they cant make it more like Chronicles Baseball. you can pull multiple different types of parallels and autos in retail baseball, but for some reason for Football/Basketball/UFC, the retail release is very neutered/watered down

Probably because there are logos in this other stuff and no need to offer a lot more than that. If they didn't juice up Chronicles baseball, not sure anyone would buy (I'm not buying regardless myself).

lseecon · 12-13-2021, 01:13 PM

you can certainly tell the true collectors from the flippers.

i dont think there is one sports card product out or coming out that all the flippers will be happy with. Why? because the flip game has come and gone. This is great for the collectors. We can actually find and buy product from the shelves. Or even if we cant, we can buy it for about a 10% mark up from retail prices, like Optic basketball. Mosaic will be the same. If Optic is barely selling over retail price, then Mosaic will sell for even less.

They call everything trash if they cant make money off it. Panini and walmart and target raising the prices about 20% was great for the collectors.
Weeds the flippers out.

Go read all the message boards.....its the same thing----every new product is trash. Why? because they cant flip the unopened and they cant make money off the singles.

Let them all go back to flipping sneakers out of their mom's basement.

Back in the day (3 years ago) people would buy cards for fun and buy wax to open and maybe hold for long term. There were very few products, if any, that you could buy off the shelf and then re-sell for a profit. The hobby thrived back then without the flippers.

Unopened hobby and retail prices coming back down to earth is a good thing for the collectors, not for the flippers.

In about 1-2 more years if not already, most of the newbies will have moved on to the next perceived hot thing.

tolrobb · 12-13-2021, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cowboyzqna

I'm not messing with chronic this year .. would be really happy if I find some mosaic to rip next week.

My Walmarts is getting so much product right now... It's all the less desirable sets but still awesome to see

I find that VERY hard to believe.

lseecon · 12-13-2021, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

chronicles is junk......its only pink parallels and TONS of base. and then like one subset with parallels /199 and one subset of Auto but its panini retail so good luck pulling autos of anyone decent

in years past id buy it all up when found without a second thought, but when you realize how little value there is, just have to wise up

This statement is spoken like a true flipper.

Last year, you would buy all 60 boxes of chronicles at your local walmart if you walked in to a stock like that. Why? Because the aftermarket value was significantly higher than the retail price. You were only buying to flip or because you thought they were "worth" more than you were buying them for. You werent buying 60 boxes for your collection or to open. But now, because you see the aftermarket value and it is not much higher, you dont buy those 60 boxes. What changed other than the aftermarket value?

In 2018, before the flippers, you could find as much prizm basketball as you wanted on the shelves. It was meant to stay on the shelves for a few weeks.

MJ holdings would ship 60 chronicles hangers to a store so that 20 different collectors could buy 2-3 boxes over the course of a week. Not so one guy would go buy all 60 boxes and then re-sell them. They shipped enough inventory to last for a week or two, not for one minute.

Sadly, this clearing the shelf mania caused even collectors to resort to clearing the shelves because they never knew when and if they would find product, so if they ran into a stock they would buy it all for fear of never seeing it again or having to pay a big mark up from a flipper. Just a few years ago, a collector could walk into a walmart or target and buy 3 blasters of Prizm basketball, go home, open them...come back a few days later or the next week and buy some more. They were generally still on the shelves. There wasnt a need to buy all 15 boxes at once. You could do it over time.

We are slowly returning to that again. It is happening first and now with the lower tier products, then it will happen to the premium products like Prizm.

TimBuckTwo · 12-13-2021, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lseecon

They call everything trash if they cant make money off it. Panini and walmart and target raising the prices about 20% was great for the collectors.
Weeds the flippers out.

It's great to pay more? FOOL !

k13 · 12-13-2021, 01:31 PM

No one would bother with retail if hobby was back to normal prices.

No one buys hockey retail because hobby is reasonable.
No one should buy baseball retail because hobby is still reasonable for most part.

If basketball/football hobby boxes were $100-$200 no one would give a crap about retail even as a collector.

Chris P · 12-13-2021, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lseecon

This statement is spoken like a true flipper.

Last year, you would buy all 60 boxes of chronicles at your local walmart if you walked in to a stock like that. Why? Because the aftermarket value was significantly higher than the retail price. You were only buying to flip or because you thought they were "worth" more than you were buying them for. You werent buying 60 boxes for your collection or to open. But now, because you see the aftermarket value and it is not much higher, you dont buy those 60 boxes. What changed other than the aftermarket value?

In 2018, before the flippers, you could find as much prizm basketball as you wanted on the shelves. It was meant to stay on the shelves for a few weeks.

MJ holdings would ship 60 chronicles hangers to a store so that 20 different collectors could buy 2-3 boxes over the course of a week. Not so one guy would go buy all 60 boxes and then re-sell them. They shipped enough inventory to last for a week or two, not for one minute.

Sadly, this clearing the shelf mania caused even collectors to resort to clearing the shelves because they never knew when and if they would find product, so if they ran into a stock they would buy it all for fear of never seeing it again or having to pay a big mark up from a flipper. Just a few years ago, a collector could walk into a walmart or target and buy 3 blasters of Prizm basketball, go home, open them...come back a few days later or the next week and buy some more. They were generally still on the shelves. There wasnt a need to buy all 15 boxes at once. You could do it over time.

We are slowly returning to that again. It is happening first and now with the lower tier products, then it will happen to the premium products like Prizm.

I disagree with the Prizm Basketball part at least down here..starting with 2017-18 prizm basketball people would clear out the shelves..it was easy to find relative to today but it wasn't a product that would stay on the shelves for more than a day. 2019-20 was relatively easy to find..remembering leaving tons of it..but it would still be bought up

k13 · 12-13-2021, 01:39 PM

Fanatics will not know what him them in a few years.

Paying 10x for the license meanwhile demand goes down 90%.

k13 · 12-13-2021, 01:45 PM

Collectors are just long term flippers.

actionbryan · 12-13-2021, 01:54 PM

what will look better on my desk, sealed illusions retail box or stack of illusions cards?

Last time I ripped an illusions product it was big fan nothing. I'm leaning towards the former.

mcwildcats · 12-13-2021, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by actionbryan

what will look better on my desk, sealed illusions retail box or stack of illusions cards?

Last time I ripped an illusions product it was big fan nothing. I'm leaning towards the former.

Sealed for sure.

12-10-2021, 07:53 PM	#2353
DioBrando Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 2,601	Stopped in Meijers and saw the most cards I've seen in a long time. Blasters of Update, HHN, Archives, and Donruss. __________________ 1312 no gods, no masters

12-13-2021, 12:40 PM	#2360
cowboyzqna Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moundridge KS Posts: 9,265 cowboyzqna	I'm not messing with chronic this year .. would be really happy if I find some mosaic to rip next week. My Walmarts is getting so much product right now... It's all the less desirable sets but still awesome to see __________________ I am a Lucky Man

12-13-2021, 11:40 AM	#2354
PSA2Pac Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 3,893	Optic b ball has been done, anybody seeing Chronicles NBA out there yet? Mosaic maybe this week? I haven’t caught anything in store since Select b ball, was hoping to scoop some retail b ball before Christmas for the kiddos. Sounds like Flux will be the last retail b ball product for the year, wonder if we do t see it til January?

12-13-2021, 11:46 AM	#2355
TimBuckTwo Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,131	Nothing today at my WM.

12-13-2021, 12:43 PM	#2361
WalterAZ31 Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 8,268	chronicles is junk......its only pink parallels and TONS of base. and then like one subset with parallels /199 and one subset of Auto but its panini retail so good luck pulling autos of anyone decent in years past id buy it all up when found without a second thought, but when you realize how little value there is, just have to wise up

12-13-2021, 01:13 PM	#2366
lseecon Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 485	you can certainly tell the true collectors from the flippers. i dont think there is one sports card product out or coming out that all the flippers will be happy with. Why? because the flip game has come and gone. This is great for the collectors. We can actually find and buy product from the shelves. Or even if we cant, we can buy it for about a 10% mark up from retail prices, like Optic basketball. Mosaic will be the same. If Optic is barely selling over retail price, then Mosaic will sell for even less. They call everything trash if they cant make money off it. Panini and walmart and target raising the prices about 20% was great for the collectors. Weeds the flippers out. Go read all the message boards.....its the same thing----every new product is trash. Why? because they cant flip the unopened and they cant make money off the singles. Let them all go back to flipping sneakers out of their mom's basement. Back in the day (3 years ago) people would buy cards for fun and buy wax to open and maybe hold for long term. There were very few products, if any, that you could buy off the shelf and then re-sell for a profit. The hobby thrived back then without the flippers. Unopened hobby and retail prices coming back down to earth is a good thing for the collectors, not for the flippers. In about 1-2 more years if not already, most of the newbies will have moved on to the next perceived hot thing.

12-13-2021, 01:31 PM	#2370
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	No one would bother with retail if hobby was back to normal prices. No one buys hockey retail because hobby is reasonable. No one should buy baseball retail because hobby is still reasonable for most part. If basketball/football hobby boxes were $100-$200 no one would give a crap about retail even as a collector.

12-13-2021, 01:39 PM	#2372
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Fanatics will not know what him them in a few years. Paying 10x for the license meanwhile demand goes down 90%.

12-13-2021, 01:45 PM	#2373
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Collectors are just long term flippers.

12-13-2021, 01:54 PM	#2374
actionbryan Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,744 mrbrownstone5150 actionbryan	what will look better on my desk, sealed illusions retail box or stack of illusions cards? Last time I ripped an illusions product it was big fan nothing. I'm leaning towards the former.