Bgs Grades Facsimile as authentic

katho · 09-07-2021, 06:37 PM

If this is real...Im done with TPG's

https://twitter.com/PhCards/status/1435362904233201664

SGC300ier · 09-07-2021, 06:44 PM

That slab looks...fake?

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katho · 09-07-2021, 06:47 PM

Could be!!!....But,im not sure.Those Through the years cards seem to cause problems

rngrdanny22 · 09-07-2021, 06:47 PM

This has happened many times in the past.

SGC300ier · 09-07-2021, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by katho

Could be!!!....But,im not sure.Those Through the years cards seem to cause problems

No doubt. Stupid insert lol

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beaverman3001 · 09-07-2021, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SGC300ier

That slab looks...fake?

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It’s in their pop report

SGC300ier · 09-07-2021, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by beaverman3001

It’s in their pop report

Oh no...

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katho · 09-07-2021, 06:56 PM

Do these graders know anything about the cards theyre grading????I sometime wonder who these people really are,maybe some homeless person fresh off the street...

majestik101 · 09-07-2021, 06:58 PM

It happens a lot more than it should

Like this one....

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1401818

And this one.....

https://jordancards.com/blog/1994-95...bgs-9-10-auto/

katho · 09-07-2021, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

It happens a lot more than it should

Like this one....

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1401818

And this one.....

https://jordancards.com/blog/1994-95...bgs-9-10-auto/

Just mindblowing

BBases31 · 09-07-2021, 07:39 PM

It's incredible how many shady people permeate this hobby. Not the grader, but the guy sending away a 30 cent insert to get slabbed because he obviously thinks its more likely to trick someone in the case.

BaseballKing · 09-07-2021, 07:56 PM

I'm looking forward to the day sportscards have their own " Fake or Fortune" show just like they have in the art world.

50 years from now: " Evan here has brought us a US300. Hi Evan".

Hello.

Now Evan you inherited this card from your grandfather who was said to be a boisterous and gregarious BO member who loved a player widely considered to be the best ever, Juan Soto?

Yes, that's correct.

And you want to find out whether this Juan Soto US300 is real or one of the many faked copies?

That's correct.

Well Evan, if it does prove to be a genuine US300 you might be looking at a 7 figure card here?

Great.

But if not, it may only be worth a few dollars.

I understand. I just have to know.

Ok, Evan, we will send the card off to our experts and get it extricated from that... slab I believe it's called.

Slab. That's right. Yeah. Slab, haha.

Thanks Evan. Alright folks. Tune in next week to find out whether Evan has a real authentic US300 Juan Soto! Goodnight everyone.

MoreToppsPlease · 09-07-2021, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

It's incredible how many shady people permeate this hobby. Not the grader, but the guy sending away a 30 cent insert to get slabbed because he obviously thinks its more likely to trick someone in the case.

Slabbing increased hobby corruption 100 fold.

katho · 09-07-2021, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Slabbing increased hobby corruption 100 fold.

Blowout needs a LIKE button

sickmantz · 09-07-2021, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Slabbing increased hobby corruption 100 fold.

For sure. Without authenticators, there would be no forgers.

Bcwcardz · 09-07-2021, 08:52 PM

Nothing new with these guys

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BaseballKing · 09-07-2021, 09:06 PM

Good evening everyone and welcome back to Fake or Fortune Sportscards Edition.

And here once again we have Evan Goodbody from Florida. Welcome back Evan. Great to see you again.

Hello. Thanks for having me.

Now Evan, before we reveal what our experts thought of the US300 you submitted to our team could you tell us a little bit about your grandfather. We know that he was a member of the famous BO boards and a Juan Soto super collector but apparently he was also a "Nuclear Samurai"!

Yeah, that's right. Grandad fought in WWIII in the 2020's. He was part of a joint Japanese/American battalion which hit the beaches of mingwong province following a nuclear strike on Beijing. Place was radioactive AF. He was cooked the moment he set foot on the beach.

Sally the show host nods gravely.

Grandad and all the men were forever referred to as "Nuclear Samurai". He hated the place. Sorely missed his Juan Soto collection.

Although, I believe your grandfather did take some Juan Soto cards with him when he went off to China.

Not cards exactly. They were Juan Soto coins, or buttons or something. His good luck charms. Pulled them from a blaster.

Sounds like a great man.

Evan tears up.

Alright Evan. Please. Take a moment to compose yourself.

I'm alright. He loved BO so much did,grandad. Said the card market would've been nothing without it. All the pumping and that.

Right.

He said they managed to pump a Trout US175 to $5000 at one point.

Sally laughs. That's crazy Evan! That was a lot of money back then!

Grandad thought so too. That's why he collected Soto. Plus Soto was much better.

Indeed he was. Thank you Evan. Wonderful story. Are you nervous?

A little.

We have the results back....

OK

It's... a... genuine Juan Soto. How good is that!

Amazing! I don't know what to say. Thanks Sally.

Ok everyone. That's it for tonight. We'll be back next week with another episode of Fake or Fortune Sports Card Edition.

Bcwcardz · 09-07-2021, 10:02 PM

For you my friend

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goldeneye2131 · 09-07-2021, 11:50 PM

This is the favorite of my collection. I sent in a number of patterns of this card at the same time, and not only does this card have the auto slab, it is labeled without the pattern name. What's worse is I have another mislabeled card whose label should be on this one....makes me wonder if the grade for this one was due for the other card and somehow got swapped. Given the enormous number of mistakes like this, I wouldn't be surprised.

BaseballKing · 09-07-2021, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcwcardz

For you my friend

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My 16 year old self would've drooled at such a picture.

mc1 · 09-08-2021, 12:45 PM

PSA did this before.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1114165

Also, my avatar is a custom Shaquille O’Neal Autographics.

pip · 09-08-2021, 01:18 PM

A quick glance at an oblique angle to the surface can always resolve the difference between a real and facsimile autograph. Why is this so difficult for TPGs?

smapdi · 09-08-2021, 04:14 PM

Does BGS still charge an extra $2 for autos?

MoreToppsPlease · 09-08-2021, 04:55 PM

If they can’t detect a facsimile auto, what’s the likelihood they could detect fake non-facsimile autos???

BaseballKing · 09-09-2021, 12:51 AM

Grading companies should serve one function: authenticate the card/autograph.

09-07-2021, 06:37 PM	#1
katho Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 512	Bgs Grades Facsimile as authentic If this is real...Im done with TPG's https://twitter.com/PhCards/status/1435362904233201664

09-07-2021, 06:58 PM	#9
majestik101 Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Socially Distanced Posts: 44,179 majestik101	It happens a lot more than it should Like this one.... https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1401818 And this one..... https://jordancards.com/blog/1994-95...bgs-9-10-auto/ __________________ NYC 1653-2025 "Watson alone sells for over $20" https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1182760 Last edited by majestik101; 09-07-2021 at 07:01 PM.

09-08-2021, 12:45 PM	#21
mc1 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 11,208	PSA did this before. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1114165 Also, my avatar is a custom Shaquille O’Neal Autographics. __________________ B.I.D.

09-08-2021, 01:18 PM	#22
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,009	A quick glance at an oblique angle to the surface can always resolve the difference between a real and facsimile autograph. Why is this so difficult for TPGs? __________________ Dealers to avoid -- https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=14831085&postcount=1

09-08-2021, 04:55 PM	#24
MoreToppsPlease Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 8,676	If they can’t detect a facsimile auto, what’s the likelihood they could detect fake non-facsimile autos??? __________________ IRS Tax Tip 2022-57 A hobby is any activity that a person pursues because they enjoy it and with no intention of making a profit. People operate a business with the intention of making a profit.

09-07-2021, 06:44 PM	#2
SGC300ier Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,079 sgc_collectiblez	That slab looks...fake? Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

09-07-2021, 06:47 PM	#3
katho Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 512	Could be!!!....But,im not sure.Those Through the years cards seem to cause problems

09-07-2021, 06:47 PM	#4
rngrdanny22 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 12,372	This has happened many times in the past.

09-07-2021, 06:56 PM	#8
katho Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 512	Do these graders know anything about the cards theyre grading????I sometime wonder who these people really are,maybe some homeless person fresh off the street...

09-07-2021, 07:39 PM	#11
BBases31 Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 7,603	It's incredible how many shady people permeate this hobby. Not the grader, but the guy sending away a 30 cent insert to get slabbed because he obviously thinks its more likely to trick someone in the case.

09-07-2021, 07:56 PM	#12
BaseballKing Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: I got banned from BO/God bless you all Posts: 1,941	I'm looking forward to the day sportscards have their own " Fake or Fortune" show just like they have in the art world. 50 years from now: " Evan here has brought us a US300. Hi Evan". Hello. Now Evan you inherited this card from your grandfather who was said to be a boisterous and gregarious BO member who loved a player widely considered to be the best ever, Juan Soto? Yes, that's correct. And you want to find out whether this Juan Soto US300 is real or one of the many faked copies? That's correct. Well Evan, if it does prove to be a genuine US300 you might be looking at a 7 figure card here? Great. But if not, it may only be worth a few dollars. I understand. I just have to know. Ok, Evan, we will send the card off to our experts and get it extricated from that... slab I believe it's called. Slab. That's right. Yeah. Slab, haha. Thanks Evan. Alright folks. Tune in next week to find out whether Evan has a real authentic US300 Juan Soto! Goodnight everyone.

09-07-2021, 08:52 PM	#16
Bcwcardz Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: West coast Posts: 1,394	Nothing new with these guys Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-07-2021, 09:06 PM	#17
BaseballKing Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: I got banned from BO/God bless you all Posts: 1,941	Good evening everyone and welcome back to Fake or Fortune Sportscards Edition. And here once again we have Evan Goodbody from Florida. Welcome back Evan. Great to see you again. Hello. Thanks for having me. Now Evan, before we reveal what our experts thought of the US300 you submitted to our team could you tell us a little bit about your grandfather. We know that he was a member of the famous BO boards and a Juan Soto super collector but apparently he was also a "Nuclear Samurai"! Yeah, that's right. Grandad fought in WWIII in the 2020's. He was part of a joint Japanese/American battalion which hit the beaches of mingwong province following a nuclear strike on Beijing. Place was radioactive AF. He was cooked the moment he set foot on the beach. Sally the show host nods gravely. Grandad and all the men were forever referred to as "Nuclear Samurai". He hated the place. Sorely missed his Juan Soto collection. Although, I believe your grandfather did take some Juan Soto cards with him when he went off to China. Not cards exactly. They were Juan Soto coins, or buttons or something. His good luck charms. Pulled them from a blaster. Sounds like a great man. Evan tears up. Alright Evan. Please. Take a moment to compose yourself. I'm alright. He loved BO so much did,grandad. Said the card market would've been nothing without it. All the pumping and that. Right. He said they managed to pump a Trout US175 to $5000 at one point. Sally laughs. That's crazy Evan! That was a lot of money back then! Grandad thought so too. That's why he collected Soto. Plus Soto was much better. Indeed he was. Thank you Evan. Wonderful story. Are you nervous? A little. We have the results back.... OK It's... a... genuine Juan Soto. How good is that! Amazing! I don't know what to say. Thanks Sally. Ok everyone. That's it for tonight. We'll be back next week with another episode of Fake or Fortune Sports Card Edition.

09-07-2021, 10:02 PM	#18
Bcwcardz Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: West coast Posts: 1,394	For you my friend Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-07-2021, 11:50 PM	#19
goldeneye2131 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 567	This is the favorite of my collection. I sent in a number of patterns of this card at the same time, and not only does this card have the auto slab, it is labeled without the pattern name. What's worse is I have another mislabeled card whose label should be on this one....makes me wonder if the grade for this one was due for the other card and somehow got swapped. Given the enormous number of mistakes like this, I wouldn't be surprised.

09-08-2021, 04:14 PM	#23
smapdi Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 1,766 piledriver1	Does BGS still charge an extra $2 for autos?

09-09-2021, 12:51 AM	#25
BaseballKing Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: I got banned from BO/God bless you all Posts: 1,941	Grading companies should serve one function: authenticate the card/autograph.