First Class Mail to Take Extra Day Under Postal Service Plan

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by chezball

Anyone that thinks someone else can do a better job is not living in reality.

Yeah, despite their issues they are the most efficient and reliable delivery method out there for small light weight items. Some people just have no common sense about things like this there is no way any company would take on this role without wanting to raise prices or stop paying retirement on employees that have not even been born yet.

[shrevecity]

Also Amazon is not trying to take over the USPS they are actually trying to bury it and put it out of existence. They don't want to run it they want it gone. That will force other venues to use options like UPS or Fed Ex even for small items or join Amazons detailed network that will be able to charge their own rates not controlled by Congress. This would effectively shup many online sellers down entirely. Amazons end game is having total control of online sales.

https://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...revenue-2020-8

[jamcas997]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Also Amazon is not trying to take over the USPS they are actually trying to bury it and put it out of existence. They don't want to run it they want it gone. That will force other venues to use options like UPS or Fed Ex even for small items or join Amazons detailed network that will be able to charge their own rates not controlled by Congress. This would effectively shup many online sellers down entirely. Amazons end game is having total control of online sales.

https://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...revenue-2020-8

Time for the Supreme Court to step in and break Amazon up like MA Bell.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by jamcas997

Time for the Supreme Court to step in and break Amazon up like MA Bell.

They have nothing to do with it, it might get sent there at some pt.

To force a company to break up, the government would have to file a lawsuit demonstrating that the firm has market power in the industry and that the deal has hurt consumers by pushing up prices or reducing product quality.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by chezball

They have nothing to do with it, it might get sent there at some pt.

To force a company to break up, the government would have to file a lawsuit demonstrating that the firm has market power in the industry and that the deal has hurt consumers by pushing up prices or reducing product quality.

Which could happen if they were to take over the USPS. They could effectively kill other businesses that rely on the USPS for shipping items. There would become a clear conflict of interest there.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by chezball

Anyone that thinks someone else can do a better job is not living in reality.

Not about doing a better job, but being able to sustain this service to everyone. USPS is running on a cumulative loss of about $80 billion dollars since 2006, and that doesn't include pensions and health benefits.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Yeah, despite their issues they are the most efficient and reliable delivery method out there for small light weight items. Some people just have no common sense about things like this there is no way any company would take on this role without wanting to raise prices or stop paying retirement on employees that have not even been born yet.

You said Amazon end game is to control all online sales. Wouldn't taking over the USPS help do that? Also with regards to price increases, the USPS has been kicking the can down the road way too long, which means price increases should come sooner, not later.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by quackhead

Not about doing a better job, but being able to sustain this service to everyone. USPS is running on a cumulative loss of about $80 billion dollars since 2006, and that doesn't include pensions and health benefits.

That person in there now likes to use his pen. It would literally take two minutes to fix the funding issue.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by quackhead

You said Amazon end game is to control all online sales. Wouldn't taking over the USPS help do that? Also with regards to price increases, the USPS has been kicking the can down the road way too long, which means price increases should come sooner, not later.

No putting them out would be better for Amazon. Because if they could do that they could automatically strip away all the congressional demands that they will not want to deal with.

If they take over though do you not think that businesses who are not part of Amazon who ship through USPS are going to get a fair shake if Amazon takes over? Of course they would not.

The USPS is mandated by Congress on what they can and cannot charge they have to get approval for every price increase and it can only increase by a certain percentage each time that is why we have one nearly every year.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by chezball

That person in there now likes to use his pen. It would literally take two minutes to fix the funding issue.

True. That person could also make it easier to make Amazon the new USPS.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

No putting them out would be better for Amazon. Because if they could do that they could automatically strip away all the congressional demands that they will not want to deal with.

If they take over though do you not think that businesses who are not part of Amazon who ship through USPS are going to get a fair shake if Amazon takes over? Of course they would not.

The USPS is mandated by Congress on what they can and cannot charge they have to get approval for every price increase and it can only increase by a certain percentage each time that is why we have one nearly every year.

So you think Amazon wouldn't be business friendly and provide some sort of "prime" service to businesses that use their shipping service? On the flip side, look at all the money businesses are saving by purchasing items/supplies thru Amazon.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by quackhead

So you think Amazon wouldn't be business friendly and provide some sort of "prime" service to businesses that use their shipping service? On the flip side, look at all the money businesses are saving by purchasing items/supplies thru Amazon.

Of course they would, the way they treat their sellers and in some cases employees give a clue to what they are capable of.. Think about that the largest online retailer controls the largest mail system in the world, USPS handles nearly 50% of all the mail in the world. That automatically would be a form of monopoly. As they would have near total control of how most online business operate. The USPS is already considered a public Monopoly under the definition.

The savings businesses have had are not relevant and you can get many of the same prices on other venues as well.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by quackhead

True. That person could also make it easier to make Amazon the new USPS.

Nope not that easy. There is a little thing called the US constitution which requires Congress to oversee all that and changes stripping Congress of that control would require a constitutional amendment which requires an agreement of 2/3rds of the States to approve. No company will be willing to take over anything as long as Congress has that control.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Nope not that easy. There is a little thing called the US constitution which requires Congress to oversee all that and changes stripping Congress of that control would require a constitutional amendment which requires an agreement of 2/3rds of the States to approve. No company will be willing to take over anything as long as Congress has that control.

Not to get too political, but there are people who want to change the Constitution, 2/3 votes be damned.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by quackhead

Not to get too political, but there are people who want to change the Constitution, 2/3 votes be damned.

Won't happen without a civil war. If that happens nothing will matter anyway

[frenchquarter]

Originally Posted by quackhead

Amazon and USPS are already business partners. 2019, USPS generated $1.6 billion from Amazon deliveries. Will be interesting to see what 2020 generated. Its just a matter of time.

USPS generated 1.6 billion in revenue, but how much of that was profit? From my experience with the Postal Service, the profit was very little, or more likely, they took a loss on the Amazon packages. It was incredible how many extra expenses came about when Amazon started dropping packages at the PO.

[quackhead]

I have a solution to the long deliveries to communities 300+ miles away. Amazon will sell advertising on their trucks

[bloodwings19]

I want to bring attention, if not already on USPS tracking on eBay and on USPS website. Today, I checked eBay's tracking the card I'm supposed to be getting says "Being Processed" then when I went to the USPS website, it says "Out For Delivery". So, I think the eBay tracking is lagging.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by bloodwings19

I want to bring attention, if not already on USPS tracking on eBay and on USPS website. Today, I checked eBay's tracking the card I'm supposed to be getting says "Being Processed" then when I went to the USPS website, it says "Out For Delivery". So, I think the eBay tracking is lagging.

Its always behind. Usually correctz in 3 to 4 hours. With the standard envelopes though it has really been lacking or not updating at all.

[quackhead]

Some food for thought....

https://observer.com/2019/06/amazon-...e-acquisition/

[jamcas997]

Originally Posted by quackhead

Some food for thought....

https://observer.com/2019/06/amazon-...e-acquisition/

How about NO. Thats all we need is Bezos running the USPS and watch our cost go up more.

[ga5150]

Food for thought, but that article is almost 2 years old.

Originally Posted by quackhead

Some food for thought....

https://observer.com/2019/06/amazon-...e-acquisition/

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by ga5150

Food for thought, but that article is almost 2 years old.

Still a building block in making it happen.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by jamcas997

How about NO. Thats all we need is Bezos running the USPS and watch our cost go up more.

And the government is doing such an awesome job.

[quackhead]

BTW, its National Dog Bite Awareness Week.


https://www.kktv.com/2021/06/15/usps...s%20in%202020.