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Old 06-05-2021, 06:35 AM   #2826
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This is the problem with Panini's over production.

EVERYBODY has investment in Luka. So all the credit goes to him in a win. Even if he only scores 2 points in the 4th.

And all of the blame goes on anyone else, teammates, refs, the coach, whenever he loses. Even if he disappears for a few quarters while Kawhi plays one of the best games of his life.


But I'll even be more gracious than you... I don't think he had a terrible game. He had a game that all but 10 or 20 players in the NBA would love to have in that situation. It's just that Kawhi had a much better performance that any player in the NBA would love to have.

To anyone without blinders on... the story of this game wasn't what anyone did to lose, it was what Kawhi and the Clippers did to win.

If anyone can't see that... this is a wake up call to at least admit you are biased one way or the other.





Good points. Kawhi was a monster in the 3rd and 4th. He was 5-5 in the 4th quarter last night. The game wasn't so much how bad the mavs played, but how good the clips played. Especially in crunch time.


and you are correct, Luka didn't stink up the joint, but he disappeared in the second half last night and played passively.
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Old 06-05-2021, 06:38 AM   #2827
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Calling it again. Clips

Game seven will be tight and physical. It will be close until the 4th with the Clips winning by 7+ in the 4th.


Mavs just haven't learned how to win tight games that matter yet.
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Old 06-05-2021, 06:48 AM   #2828
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Not that that changes anything. Portland needs to quit assembling the same roster of 3rd and 4th tier has-beens and finally acquire that 3rd large puzzle piece. And no, a Nurkic type is not what the doctor ordered.


The days of being a perennial placeholder playoff-out have run their course. Stop being that dysfunctional 10 year couple that refuses to divorce for the sake of the kids.
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Old 06-05-2021, 07:13 AM   #2829
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Mavs just haven't learned how to win tight games that matter yet.
So we’re games 1, 2, and 5 just not close? Or did they not matter?
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Old 06-05-2021, 08:11 AM   #2830
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i think mavs needed to close it out last night and clipps will take game 7.
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Old 06-05-2021, 08:25 AM   #2831
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So we’re games 1, 2, and 5 just not close? Or did they not matter?



Khal coming in hot!!!! And you know exactly what I mean. Game seven: Clips
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Old 06-05-2021, 08:37 AM   #2832
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This is the problem with Panini's over production.

EVERYBODY has investment in Luka. So all the credit goes to him in a win. Even if he only scores 2 points in the 4th.

And all of the blame goes on anyone else, teammates, refs, the coach, whenever he loses. Even if he disappears for a few quarters while Kawhi plays one of the best games of his life.


But I'll even be more gracious than you... I don't think he had a terrible game. He had a game that all but 10 or 20 players in the NBA would love to have in that situation. It's just that Kawhi had a much better performance that any player in the NBA would love to have.

To anyone without blinders on... the story of this game wasn't what anyone did to lose, it was what Kawhi and the Clippers did to win.

If anyone can't see that... this is a wake up call to at least admit you are biased one way or the other.
Isn't this the truth. I have a 60/40 split in Zion/Luka stuff for my "next-generation" modern collection, but Jesus Christ, it's like no one has ever seen how NBA playoff basketball is played. Luka didn't get mauled throughout the game, he got worn down by a defense in the playoffs. This ain't the regular season, people. The Clippers had Luka gassed by the 4th and he had nothing left. It's that simple.
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Old 06-05-2021, 08:44 AM   #2833
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Khal coming in hot!!!! And you know exactly what I mean. Game seven: Clips
I actually don’t know what you mean. Any reasonable person would consider those games close and meaningful. Except you I guess.

You seem very hell bent on letting us all know you are taking the Clippers in game 7.
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Old 06-05-2021, 08:48 AM   #2834
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It’s also pretty stupid rationale to take the Clippers over the Mavs. Basically the same Clippers squad that blew a 3-1 series lead against the Nuggets last year. Maybe those games didn’t matter either?
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I actually don’t know what you mean. Any reasonable person would consider those games close and meaningful. Except you I guess.

You seem very hell bent on letting us all know you are taking the Clippers in game 7.
He means tight, close-out games in a 7-game series are much different than a tightly contested game 1 or 2. Everyone knows that.
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Old 06-05-2021, 09:03 AM   #2836
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Ima be busy during game 7. Gaddammit. Pulling for the Clippers for the BO meltdown and Dnic street fight call outs. Also taking the Clippers because I can’t bet against Kawhi in crunch time.
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It’s also pretty stupid rationale to take the Clippers over the Mavs. Basically the same Clippers squad that blew a 3-1 series lead against the Nuggets last year. Maybe those games didn’t matter either?
They are -6.5 favorites so you'll be getting good odds for the Mavs...
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I actually don’t know what you mean. Any reasonable person would consider those games close and meaningful. Except you I guess.

You seem very hell bent on letting us all know you are taking the Clippers in game 7.





Khal: You are way too serious for Saturday my friend.


Do I want the Clips to win? NO. I can't stand Khawi. Never been a fan of Paul George either, and I think Morris is a dirty player.


But I also don't think the Mavs have the killer instinct to win a game 7. Which is NOT the same as a games 1,2 or game 5. Now do you understand?

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It’s also pretty stupid rationale to take the Clippers over the Mavs. Basically the same Clippers squad that blew a 3-1 series lead against the Nuggets last year. Maybe those games didn’t matter either?


last year is not this year.
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He means tight, close-out games in a 7-game series are much different than a tightly contested game 1 or 2. Everyone knows that.


2010 packers gets it.
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Old 06-05-2021, 09:51 AM   #2841
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Khal: You are way too serious for Saturday my friend.


Do I want the Clips to win? NO. I can't stand Khawi. Never been a fan of Paul George either, and I think Morris is a dirty player.


But I also don't think the Mavs have the killer instinct to win a game 7. Which is NOT the same as a game 1 or a game 5. Now do you understand?
Sure. Still not sure how you think the team that blew a 3-1 lead has more of a killer instinct than the team who hasn’t been in a game 7.
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Sure. Still not sure how you think the team that blew a 3-1 lead has more of a killer instinct than the team who hasn’t been in a game 7.
I think the point being made is that guys like Kawhi and Rondo have won titles before, each with multiple teams, and Kawhi is as clutch as they come.

I think Luka will thrive in game 7, but I’m predicting a similar outcome to game 6. Porzingis needs to stop sucking ass. 3/7 with two of those buckets being dunks just isn’t going to cut it. He needs to put up 20+. Luka is only one guy.
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I think the point being made is that guys like Kawhi and Rondo have won titles before, each with multiple teams, and Kawhi is as clutch as they come.
But I was basically told past seasons don’t matter.
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Mavs/Clips game 7 better deliver. It’s set up to be a big night for Luka and Kawhi. Hope it’s back and forth all game. Give the fans what they deserve.
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But I was basically told past seasons don’t matter.


well, if the Mavs pull it out tomorrow, you can rub it in my face, since this seems to be very upsetting to you.




Mavs win is a huge plus for me, but unlike you I can be objective.
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I think the point being made is that guys like Kawhi and Rondo have won titles before, each with multiple teams, and Kawhi is as clutch as they come.

I think Luka will thrive in game 7, but I’m predicting a similar outcome to game 6. Porzingis needs to stop sucking ass. 3/7 with two of those buckets being dunks just isn’t going to cut it. He needs to put up 20+. Luka is only one guy.


ballhawk gets it too.
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well, if the Mavs pull it out tomorrow, you can rub it in my face, since this seems to be very upsetting to you.




Mavs win is a huge plus for me, but unlike you I can be objective.
It's not upsetting. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous your argument was. Mavs haven't learned how to win tight games, yet we're only considering this year during which the Clippers haven't won anything.
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It's not upsetting. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous your argument was. Mavs haven't learned how to win tight games, yet we're only considering this year during which the Clippers haven't won anything.



ballhawk and pack said it best. If you don't get it, you don't get it.


let's do the math:


Clips: big game tested, with a stone cold assassin in Kawhi. (who I would take with the game on the line over anyone on either team) Have players who have actually been in a game 7 and despite blowing a 3-1 lead have been there.

Mavs: except for Luka are a bunch of scrubs who have never been to a game seven and don't have the experience.



Not hard to understand, but we can keep on with the back and forth. I'm on call for a 24 hour shift and and I'm pretty much homebound.
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how are the clips big game tested? they were sent home last year by a team with less playoff experience
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how are the clips big game tested? they were sent home last year by a team with less playoff experience
Who on the mavs is???

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