Best all time players by Jersey Number - Page 2

texmcpherson · 05-04-2021, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by clocsta2323

I agree about Ichiro. I was contemplating this very issue with a die-hard baseball fan. He is the last person who deserves unanimous induction.
Randy was a monster. Tough call on #51

I’m taking the big unit.

actionbryan · 05-04-2021, 09:16 AM

Fun list.
Gives the guys in the 70s+ a chance of being a GOAT in a category

camdendad4439 · 05-04-2021, 09:41 AM

18 Darryl Strawberry not Johnny Damon. But I am biased!!

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DaRitz · 05-04-2021, 10:06 AM

Benito Santiago wore 09 just to make this list some day. And yet, he was forgotten. ��

brewtown107 · 05-04-2021, 11:10 AM

Great topic, OP.

There aren't many options at #71, but I will respectfully argue that Josh Hader should take that spot over Wade Davis, based upon the following facts:

1- Both players have worn #71 for the same period of time--2017-2021--and Hader has been the superior player by far in that time frame.

2- To be fair, Davis has had a good 13-year career, with 3 All Star nods, an NL saves crown, and a World Series win. But his period of true dominance (which includes two of those three All Star nods and the WS win) occurred when he was with the Royals, wearing #17. Since he left the Royals and began wearing #71, he has one All Star nod and the NL saves crown, as well as more total saves than Hader in the same time frame (93 vs. 69), but he also has 2 seasons with ERAs over 8.00, not including the current season, in which his ERA is again over 8.00 as of this writing.

3- In the same 5-year period of wearing #71 (his entire major league career so far), Hader has 2 All Star nods, an NL saves crown, 2 NL Reliever of the Year awards, and a spot on MLB's inaugural All-MLB 1st team as the (only) Relief Pitcher (2019). The same year that Davis led the NL in saves (2018), Hader was selected as the NL Reliever of the Year. The difference in saves is accounted for by differences in usage: Hader was a late-inning fireman who racked up holds rather than saves in his first couple years. He leads Davis in holds from 2017-2021, 39 to 1.

Maybe it's fair to say that Hader has to play a little longer before he could be named the best ever #71, but his competition is not super tough, and he's done everything he can in terms of dominance in the time he has played so far. My 2 pennies!

hatchd · 05-04-2021, 11:48 AM

I would have never guessed that Josh Hader vs. Wade Davis for the battle of #71 would have prompted the most thoughtful post since the OP.

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roush16racing · 05-04-2021, 11:52 AM

33 Eddie Murray

D-Lite · 05-04-2021, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by roush16racing

33 ~~Eddie Murray~~

33 Greg Bird

gmarutiak · 05-04-2021, 12:20 PM

As a Jack Clark fan, I would like to point out that he wore 00 with the Padres in 1990. While I don't feel good that I have to argue that one of my favorite players is better than a mascot, I am willing to do so.

bounty37h · 05-04-2021, 01:25 PM

I gotta go with bench at 5 also. It's not disrespectful regarding pujols, and I am biased, but bench was also the greatest catcher of all time.

vetting82 · 05-04-2021, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brewtown107

Great topic, OP.

There aren't many options at #71, but I will respectfully argue that Josh Hader should take that spot over Wade Davis, based upon the following facts:

1- Both players have worn #71 for the same period of time--2017-2021--and Hader has been the superior player by far in that time frame.

2- To be fair, Davis has had a good 13-year career, with 3 All Star nods, an NL saves crown, and a World Series win. But his period of true dominance (which includes two of those three All Star nods and the WS win) occurred when he was with the Royals, wearing #17. Since he left the Royals and began wearing #71, he has one All Star nod and the NL saves crown, as well as more total saves than Hader in the same time frame (93 vs. 69), but he also has 2 seasons with ERAs over 8.00, not including the current season, in which his ERA is again over 8.00 as of this writing.

3- In the same 5-year period of wearing #71 (his entire major league career so far), Hader has 2 All Star nods, an NL saves crown, 2 NL Reliever of the Year awards, and a spot on MLB's inaugural All-MLB 1st team as the (only) Relief Pitcher (2019). The same year that Davis led the NL in saves (2018), Hader was selected as the NL Reliever of the Year. The difference in saves is accounted for by differences in usage: Hader was a late-inning fireman who racked up holds rather than saves in his first couple years. He leads Davis in holds from 2017-2021, 39 to 1.

Maybe it's fair to say that Hader has to play a little longer before he could be named the best ever #71, but his competition is not super tough, and he's done everything he can in terms of dominance in the time he has played so far. My 2 pennies!

Came here to say the same thing - of course I'm a little biased being a Hader supercollector.

yadiermind · 05-04-2021, 02:18 PM

I’d still go Dizzy Dean over Todd Helton

Boredlawyer · 05-04-2021, 02:55 PM

Is it just me, or do other people not really associate players in 2021 with their number anymore?

Off memory, I think of all the big names-Ruth 3, Musical 6. And I remember most of the guys of the 90s/2000s--

Bonds 25, Pujols 5, Jeter 2, Griffey 24, Ichiro/Randy 51.

I honestly couldn't name most of the numbers anymore. Trout is 27. Judge is 99. Not sure what number Tatis, Soto, Degrom, etc are. Just doesn't feel like they're marketed by number anymore.

But the fad of wearing baseball jerseys around also seems to be over so maybe I just don't visualize it as much

mmbtvs · 05-04-2021, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boredlawyer

Is it just me, or do other people not really associate players in 2021 with their number anymore?

Off memory, I think of all the big names-Ruth 3, Musical 6. And I remember most of the guys of the 90s/2000s--

Bonds 25, Pujols 5, Jeter 2, Griffey 24, Ichiro/Randy 51.

I honestly couldn't name most of the numbers anymore. Trout is 27. Judge is 99. Not sure what number Tatis, Soto, Degrom, etc are. Just doesn't feel like they're marketed by number anymore.

But the fad of wearing baseball jerseys around also seems to be over so maybe I just don't visualize it as much

Degrom is 48 and Alonso is 20 off the top of my head.

brewtown107 · 05-04-2021, 05:21 PM

I think people still know the numbers of guys they collect, due to the jersey number premium on numbered cards. And people know the numbers of major players on the teams they watch.

I know Juan Soto is number 22, because I collect him and watch his team. I couldn't tell you what number Acuna or Tatis wear, because I don't collect them and rarely watch them.

rats60 · 05-04-2021, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by roush16racing

33 Eddie Murray

33 Honus Wagner

seanbros55 · 05-04-2021, 08:00 PM

Verdugo over Judge

tribefan1313 · 05-04-2021, 08:53 PM

I hate the Yankees, but this isnt close. Number 8 belongs to Yogi. Who would you build your team around? 10 World titles as a player.

Yogi

18× All-Star (1948–1961², 1962²)
13× World Series champion (1947, 1949–1953, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1969, 1977, 1978)
3× AL MVP (1951, 1954, 1955

Joe

10× All-Star (1966, 1970, 1972–1979)
2× World Series champion (1975, 1976)
2× NL MVP (1975, 1976)
5× Gold Glove Award (1973–1977)
Silver Slugger Award (1982)
Cincinnati Reds No. 8 retired
Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame
Houston Astros Hall of Fame

base set · 05-04-2021, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Boredlawyer

Is it just me, or do other people not really associate players in 2021 with their number anymore?

Off memory, I think of all the big names-Ruth 3, Musical 6. And I remember most of the guys of the 90s/2000s--

Bonds 25, Pujols 5, Jeter 2, Griffey 24, Ichiro/Randy 51.

I honestly couldn't name most of the numbers anymore. Trout is 27. Judge is 99. Not sure what number Tatis, Soto, Degrom, etc are. Just doesn't feel like they're marketed by number anymore.

But the fad of wearing baseball jerseys around also seems to be over so maybe I just don't visualize it as much

Try out some 2013 Topps Baseball and you will learn a lot of uniform #s for that time real quick.

base set · 05-04-2021, 10:08 PM

Also, the teams with uniform #s on the front of the uni make them more memorable.

coupie21 · 05-04-2021, 10:12 PM

I have been on Blowout's forum since 2014/2015 now and this thread has prompted me to type my first post. OP...#21 Roger Clemens????, over the Great One #21 Roberto Clemente??? Wow!!!

Tom Oates · 05-04-2021, 11:37 PM

I'm struggling with #31. Mike Piazza vs. Greg Maddux. Two hall of famers so there isn't likely a wrong choice. I'm a lifelong Dodger fan and Piazza is one of my favorite all time players. Maddux is the guy that did the most with the least. He wasn't huge, he wasn't intimidating, he wouldn't blow people away but he was crazy effective and accurate. I can't decide.

hatchd · 05-04-2021, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Oates

I'm struggling with #31. Mike Piazza vs. Greg Maddux. Two hall of famers so there isn't likely a wrong choice. I'm a lifelong Dodger fan and Piazza is one of my favorite all time players. Maddux is the guy that did the most with the least. He wasn't huge, he wasn't intimidating, he wouldn't blow people away but he was crazy effective and accurate. I can't decide.

Maddux and I don't even think it's close. Piazza is obviously great but he's in a different tier than Maddux IMO.

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PuddleMonkey · 05-05-2021, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Boredlawyer

But the fad of wearing baseball jerseys around also seems to be over

how dare you

awz50 · 05-05-2021, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rats60

33 Honus Wagner

This.

05-04-2021, 01:25 PM	#35
bounty37h Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,438	I gotta go with bench at 5 also. It's not disrespectful regarding pujols, and I am biased, but bench was also the greatest catcher of all time. __________________ Looking for UNC and Reds cards/autos/memorabilia. Go Heels Go Reds

05-04-2021, 08:53 PM	#43
tribefan1313 Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 51	Yogi over Joe for number 8 I hate the Yankees, but this isnt close. Number 8 belongs to Yogi. Who would you build your team around? 10 World titles as a player. Yogi 18× All-Star (1948–1961², 1962²) 13× World Series champion (1947, 1949–1953, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1969, 1977, 1978) 3× AL MVP (1951, 1954, 1955 Joe 10× All-Star (1966, 1970, 1972–1979) 2× World Series champion (1975, 1976) 2× NL MVP (1975, 1976) 5× Gold Glove Award (1973–1977) Silver Slugger Award (1982) Cincinnati Reds No. 8 retired Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame Houston Astros Hall of Fame Last edited by tribefan1313; 05-04-2021 at 08:56 PM.

05-04-2021, 09:16 AM	#27
actionbryan Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,744 mrbrownstone5150 actionbryan	Fun list. Gives the guys in the 70s+ a chance of being a GOAT in a category

05-04-2021, 09:41 AM	#28
camdendad4439 Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Elizabethton, Tn Posts: 2,889	18 Darryl Strawberry not Johnny Damon. But I am biased!! Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

05-04-2021, 10:06 AM	#29
DaRitz Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: VA Posts: 1,101	Benito Santiago wore 09 just to make this list some day. And yet, he was forgotten. ��

05-04-2021, 11:10 AM	#30
brewtown107 Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 2,237 brewtown107	Great topic, OP. There aren't many options at #71, but I will respectfully argue that Josh Hader should take that spot over Wade Davis, based upon the following facts: 1- Both players have worn #71 for the same period of time--2017-2021--and Hader has been the superior player by far in that time frame. 2- To be fair, Davis has had a good 13-year career, with 3 All Star nods, an NL saves crown, and a World Series win. But his period of true dominance (which includes two of those three All Star nods and the WS win) occurred when he was with the Royals, wearing #17. Since he left the Royals and began wearing #71, he has one All Star nod and the NL saves crown, as well as more total saves than Hader in the same time frame (93 vs. 69), but he also has 2 seasons with ERAs over 8.00, not including the current season, in which his ERA is again over 8.00 as of this writing. 3- In the same 5-year period of wearing #71 (his entire major league career so far), Hader has 2 All Star nods, an NL saves crown, 2 NL Reliever of the Year awards, and a spot on MLB's inaugural All-MLB 1st team as the (only) Relief Pitcher (2019). The same year that Davis led the NL in saves (2018), Hader was selected as the NL Reliever of the Year. The difference in saves is accounted for by differences in usage: Hader was a late-inning fireman who racked up holds rather than saves in his first couple years. He leads Davis in holds from 2017-2021, 39 to 1. Maybe it's fair to say that Hader has to play a little longer before he could be named the best ever #71, but his competition is not super tough, and he's done everything he can in terms of dominance in the time he has played so far. My 2 pennies!

05-04-2021, 11:48 AM	#31
hatchd Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,696	I would have never guessed that Josh Hader vs. Wade Davis for the battle of #71 would have prompted the most thoughtful post since the OP. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-04-2021, 11:52 AM	#32
roush16racing Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 624 roush16penske22	33 Eddie Murray

05-04-2021, 12:20 PM	#34
gmarutiak Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD (but Pittsburgh in my heart!) Posts: 3,142	As a Jack Clark fan, I would like to point out that he wore 00 with the Padres in 1990. While I don't feel good that I have to argue that one of my favorite players is better than a mascot, I am willing to do so.

05-04-2021, 02:18 PM	#37
yadiermind Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 77 gamesandsports	I’d still go Dizzy Dean over Todd Helton

05-04-2021, 02:55 PM	#38
Boredlawyer Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,152	Is it just me, or do other people not really associate players in 2021 with their number anymore? Off memory, I think of all the big names-Ruth 3, Musical 6. And I remember most of the guys of the 90s/2000s-- Bonds 25, Pujols 5, Jeter 2, Griffey 24, Ichiro/Randy 51. I honestly couldn't name most of the numbers anymore. Trout is 27. Judge is 99. Not sure what number Tatis, Soto, Degrom, etc are. Just doesn't feel like they're marketed by number anymore. But the fad of wearing baseball jerseys around also seems to be over so maybe I just don't visualize it as much

05-04-2021, 05:21 PM	#40
brewtown107 Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 2,237 brewtown107	I think people still know the numbers of guys they collect, due to the jersey number premium on numbered cards. And people know the numbers of major players on the teams they watch. I know Juan Soto is number 22, because I collect him and watch his team. I couldn't tell you what number Acuna or Tatis wear, because I don't collect them and rarely watch them.

05-04-2021, 08:00 PM	#42
seanbros55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: From the 508 to the 707 Posts: 5,395	Verdugo over Judge

05-04-2021, 10:08 PM	#45
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,499	Also, the teams with uniform #s on the front of the uni make them more memorable.

05-04-2021, 10:12 PM	#46
coupie21 Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 66	I have been on Blowout's forum since 2014/2015 now and this thread has prompted me to type my first post. OP...#21 Roger Clemens????, over the Great One #21 Roberto Clemente??? Wow!!!

05-04-2021, 11:37 PM	#47
Tom Oates Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,976 OATES	I'm struggling with #31. Mike Piazza vs. Greg Maddux. Two hall of famers so there isn't likely a wrong choice. I'm a lifelong Dodger fan and Piazza is one of my favorite all time players. Maddux is the guy that did the most with the least. He wasn't huge, he wasn't intimidating, he wouldn't blow people away but he was crazy effective and accurate. I can't decide.