Giannis "The Greak Freak" Antetokounmpo Thread

[imbluestreak23]

I will be buying rare, raw, and hopefully clean if available for sure.

[chiefs]

Hold the heck up. Giannis was up 2-0 on kawhi raptors last year in the ecf and they definitely would have rolled the warriors out of the finals. Stop saying he hasn't had a run. He's going to get 1 he's only 25

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[seabass97166]

Originally Posted by BreaultCards

It’s going to be so rough next year. Giannis will be 26 with 2 mvps looking to move to a powerhouse team. What will us collectors ever do with all the Giannis we have for pennies...

If somebody were to tell me when I bought my card 3 years ago, that in 3 years he will have won back to back MVPs (only 25 years old)...and oh by the way also win DPOY the same year one of the years...but also got bounced in the playoffs each time (first time to the team that went on to become the Champs) ...his supportive cast isn’t as strong as it needs to be plus he needs to work on his outside game (yes, he will win back to back MVPs AND is still improving..scary!!) I would be estatic!!!!!!!!

[gomiamigo]

Originally Posted by armoursave

I don’t think argue would argue that Kawhi is the best player in the game. Or that he has been for awhile.

Durant 1
Kawhi 2 [1 this year]

But it's very close.

Durant outdueling Lebron h2h in the NBA Finals twice gives him the edge. Of course, he's not played this year so Kawhi's the best in the playoffs.

[Durantula]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Durant 1
Kawhi 2 [1 this year]

But it's very close.

Durant outdueling Lebron h2h in the NBA Finals twice gives him the edge. Of course, he's not played this year so Kawhi's the best in the playoffs.

Cant wait for KD to return! Brooklyn top 3 in the East when healthy!

[armoursave]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Durant 1
Kawhi 2 [1 this year]

But it's very close.

Durant outdueling Lebron h2h in the NBA Finals twice gives him the edge. Of course, he's not played this year so Kawhi's the best in the playoffs.

Well KD’s health issues are a dark cloud for now. Hopefully he returns full strength! I’d guess he’s going to be heavily load managed from here on out which is certainly reasonable.

[FuzzySparkles]

Don't want to get political here, but it appears to me that the social justice issues in Wisconsin and LA have had a huge impact on the Bucks and Lakers. The Clippers appear to be focused and ready, but Lebron and Giannis both look emotionally drained.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by FuzzySparkles

Don't want to get political here, but it appears to me that the social justice issues in Wisconsin and LA have had a huge impact on the Bucks and Lakers. The Clippers appear to be focused and ready, but Lebron and Giannis both look emotionally drained.

Agree, the Clippers took out their anger and vitriol towards a white player. I think that kept them focused while Laker players were playing on Twitter.

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by jw8

Because that's a lot of paper value that is going to deteriorate once the Bucks get bounced and until Giannis leaves Milwaukee. I don't know exactly what RPA he has but it's safe to assume that it's value will also decline at a similar clip as other Giannis are bound to...which is mainly due to people buying high and expecting a quick flip and once they realize there's little upside in the short term hold they will sell. Additionally, if prices decline 30% and he does decide to leave Milwaukee prices may bounce back to near highs but I don't think they're going to get much higher unless he wins a championship. High end Giannis will also be a tough sell during the off season unless it's discounted.

OP probably got into it for nothing and in some cases it makes sense to cash out and reinvest. Buy another Luka blue, buy vintage, buy an MJ Fleer, buy whatever but I think people will realize that Giannis has multiple chips priced in and those chips are looking less and less like a reality in Milwaukee.

I hope I'm wrong about all this as I am a Giannis collector and have quite a few high end cards but sometimes you have to take an uncomfortable perspective.

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So your advice is to sell at the worst possible moment? Brilliant!

[seabass97166]

Originally Posted by FuzzySparkles

Don't want to get political here, but it appears to me that the social justice issues in Wisconsin and LA have had a huge impact on the Bucks and Lakers. The Clippers appear to be focused and ready, but Lebron and Giannis both look emotionally drained.

I don’t think you’re giving enough credit to Houston. D’antoni is coaching his ass off and their D is sneaky good. In fact, (and I could be wrong) he might be the only coach to have a winning record vs Phil and I don’t think he’s ever lost to the Lakers in the playoffs. Not 100% sure though.

[dawgsdt90]

purchased one of the panini instant seeding sets and got this giannis 1/1...Any idea of its value?

[forgiven1]

Originally Posted by dawgsdt90

purchased one of the panini instant seeding sets and got this giannis 1/1...Any idea of its value?

Hopefully you didn't pay too much...

[FuzzySparkles]

Originally Posted by seabass97166

I don’t think you’re giving enough credit to Houston. D’antoni is coaching his ass off and their D is sneaky good. In fact, (and I could be wrong) he might be the only coach to have a winning record vs Phil and I don’t think he’s ever lost to the Lakers in the playoffs. Not 100% sure though.

Don't get me wrong, Houston is a really good team. But the Lakers stagnent offense made them look like they had the early 90s Detroit Pistons Defense out there...this something no one has ever said about D'antoni or Houston (since the Dream days).

[chuckerrrr]

Cant believe the Giannis haters on here.

Are you fricken Kidding me?!!

The guy is what 24/25. Won a league MVP and possibly a second. Lets be honest has carried the team on his shoulders for the last 3-4 years. He hasnt had a Dwade or Klay or even a Kemba Walker type player to help out.

Then you got somebody talking about Marvin Bagley in here. Then you got peeps talking about values going down on collections.

Who cares! Some peeps in here actually enjoy collecting players no matter what and do not care for the market.

So many of the greats have been defeated before success. Look at Jordan, Lebron etc. how many guys have walked in the league and won titles. Magic? Yeah look at the team he had around him. Not saying he wasnt bigtime and one of the greatest but he had many great players around him.

Giannis came from nothing in a country where little amount of people play the sport and has becomes one of the greatest on the planet. He had a huge disadvantage to all American ballers.

Look at Bron jr. The kid gets to attend major basketball programs and play high quality kids on regular basis. Will prob go to one of the best colleges in the USA, has his old man to help him learn everything all before he enters the league.

Giannis has out done himself. To say he has over achieved is a huge understatement. History shows he should be out the league by now.

Haters need to chill.

Or

get out there and play an 82 game season in the worlds greatest basketball league against the worlds greatest athletes and show us you can win it all


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[Slim]

What happens if he joins the Mavs European superteam

[Packer4Rob]

Originally Posted by seabass97166

I don’t think you’re giving enough credit to Houston. D’antoni is coaching his ass off and their D is sneaky good. In fact, (and I could be wrong) he might be the only coach to have a winning record vs Phil and I don’t think he’s ever lost to the Lakers in the playoffs. Not 100% sure though.

i dont think you're giving enough credit to the heat. They are a good team, play great defense, and have the personnel to match up with the bucks. Bucks strength is the transition game, run up and down the court. Playoffs are a half court game and Miami has played it exceptionally well. Spoelstra is a good coach also and has made the right calls. Bucks never really looked at all like the bucks of the regular season pre-covid, not even during the regular season games in the bubble. Dont think it has anything to do poliically, at least i hope not, these guys get paid well to play ball and have to get past the outside distractions.

[seabass97166]

Originally Posted by Packer4Rob

i dont think you're giving enough credit to the heat. They are a good team, play great defense, and have the personnel to match up with the bucks. Bucks strength is the transition game, run up and down the court. Playoffs are a half court game and Miami has played it exceptionally well. Spoelstra is a good coach also and has made the right calls. Bucks never really looked at all like the bucks of the regular season pre-covid, not even during the regular season games in the bubble. Dont think it has anything to do poliically, at least i hope not, these guys get paid well to play ball and have to get past the outside distractions.

That goes without saying. The Bucks have not played well in the Bubble either, so Heat and Bucks are power rated about the same at this point. Heat have so many guys that can knock down the 3. Throw the records out the window.


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[yiguiri2002]

I'm willing to give credit to the Heat, but when you let a team like that become the best offensive team against you and lose a 4th quarter by almost 30 points, it's more on you than on them.

[armoursave]

Originally Posted by chuckerrrr

Cant believe the Giannis haters on here.

Are you fricken Kidding me?!!

The guy is what 24/25. Won a league MVP and possibly a second. Lets be honest has carried the team on his shoulders for the last 3-4 years. He hasnt had a Dwade or Klay or even a Kemba Walker type player to help out.

Then you got somebody talking about Marvin Bagley in here. Then you got peeps talking about values going down on collections.

Who cares! Some peeps in here actually enjoy collecting players no matter what and do not care for the market.

So many of the greats have been defeated before success. Look at Jordan, Lebron etc. how many guys have walked in the league and won titles. Magic? Yeah look at the team he had around him. Not saying he wasnt bigtime and one of the greatest but he had many great players around him.

Giannis came from nothing in a country where little amount of people play the sport and has becomes one of the greatest on the planet. He had a huge disadvantage to all American ballers.

Look at Bron jr. The kid gets to attend major basketball programs and play high quality kids on regular basis. Will prob go to one of the best colleges in the USA, has his old man to help him learn everything all before he enters the league.

Giannis has out done himself. To say he has over achieved is a huge understatement. History shows he should be out the league by now.

Haters need to chill.

Or

get out there and play an 82 game season in the worlds greatest basketball league against the worlds greatest athletes and show us you can win it all


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I’m slow clapping after reading that. Bravo! Love the feel good aspect of the Giannis story and I’m sure the Disney+ movie will be terrific....kind of like Cool Runnings but with basketball and trinket selling.

The mindless pumping of this also-ran is nauseating. Don’t believe the hype. Either win multiple rings or STFU. That’s it. That’s the threshold.

Unfortunately I’m truly worried that Giannis is comfortable in Milwaukee and may actually stay for the money and the worry-free career. His brother has a job as long as he sticks around so there’s that. His legacy I guess, his call. Honestly I’d probably just hang out and get double doubles, get bounced, and get paid. Nothing wrong with that.

[Justin7]

Originally Posted by chuckerrrr

Cant believe the Giannis haters on here.

Are you fricken Kidding me?!!

The guy is what 24/25. Won a league MVP and possibly a second. Lets be honest has carried the team on his shoulders for the last 3-4 years. He hasnt had a Dwade or Klay or even a Kemba Walker type player to help out.

Then you got somebody talking about Marvin Bagley in here. Then you got peeps talking about values going down on collections.

Who cares! Some peeps in here actually enjoy collecting players no matter what and do not care for the market.

So many of the greats have been defeated before success. Look at Jordan, Lebron etc. how many guys have walked in the league and won titles. Magic? Yeah look at the team he had around him. Not saying he wasnt bigtime and one of the greatest but he had many great players around him.

Giannis came from nothing in a country where little amount of people play the sport and has becomes one of the greatest on the planet. He had a huge disadvantage to all American ballers.

Look at Bron jr. The kid gets to attend major basketball programs and play high quality kids on regular basis. Will prob go to one of the best colleges in the USA, has his old man to help him learn everything all before he enters the league.

Giannis has out done himself. To say he has over achieved is a huge understatement. History shows he should be out the league by now.

Haters need to chill.

Or

get out there and play an 82 game season in the worlds greatest basketball league against the worlds greatest athletes and show us you can win it all


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Yup. Social media wasn't this prevalent during a lot of the greats careers, I can't imagine how much people would've destroyed Shaq for his lack of work ethic and latter career failures if social media was this prevalent when he played. Honestly same for Jordan getting bounced early from the playoffs 3 times in a row in the first round.



"get out there and play an 82 game season in the worlds greatest basketball league against the worlds greatest athletes and show us you can win it all"

I'd settle for one week with his workout regiment, any of us would probably collapse multiple times before completion regardless of how good of shape we think we're in.

[Akphillips86]

The ring argument is tiresome. You can in fact be a phenomenal basketball player and not win a ring. It’s not 1 on 1 out there. Dumbing down basketball to making all wins and losses about one man on any given team is oversimplification in the highest degree.

If Im talking about the Warriors the past few years for instance, do I give all the credit to Curry for winning or losing? That would be pretty ignorant considering they had KD, Klay, Draymond etc.

What would happen if you put AI in his prime or even Lillard on the Warriors instead of Steph? Neither have won a ring, but with that lineup I think they would have done just fine. Does that take away anything from Steph? No. But would that have made AI or Lillard magically better players in that hypothetical scenario because they won a ring? Also no. It simply means that they would have been a megastar on a more complete team.

Giannis is no different. Trying to invalidate him and denying his talent because he hasn’t won a ring yet is ridiculous. Dude is 25 years old, in a small market, with an average supporting cast and has carried them every step of the way. I literally have no investment in him so I’m not pumping him, I just understand that to win a championship it takes a team, not just one man.


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[Godzillafan]

He is sick for tomorrow's game?

[Justin7]

Originally Posted by Godzillafan

He is sick for tomorrow's game?

He played this series on a bum ankle, last game you could see he was limping. That's a big part of why he's having trouble. He's playing through the injury. IDK if he'll play through it again or not, my guess is he keeps playing through it but now that the medical staff knows about it IDK. I think he was trying to hide it so he could play.

[scb]

Originally Posted by FuzzySparkles

Don't want to get political here, but it appears to me that the social justice issues in Wisconsin and LA have had a huge impact on the Bucks and Lakers. The Clippers appear to be focused and ready, but Lebron and Giannis both look emotionally drained.

TIL Skip Bayless is on blowout

[grizjunkie23]

Ridiculous the hate he's getting. Team and coach all need to step it up in the playoffs.





Also pls join the Mavs.