Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[samcam]

Inspired by Black Boredom and Wheeler....quick n dirty lol

https://soundcloud.com/sam-cameron-1/blowout-bored

outta nowhere
to there in mommas world

billions of babies
born from billions of girls

billions of mommas
in billions of situations

billions of journeys
alone
we all take em

nurture vs nature
every second every day

does every minute that were livin
depend on how were made

every chance we've been given
every one we never take

every lesson we been taught


every color
every shade

what makes a man quick
what makes a woman strong

some come with it
just get it and carry on

some dont dont miss it never
know that its gone

every heartbeats a rhythm
every energy a song

every players part is needed
no need to fight facts
we didnt get here alone
had to have each others backs

took all who ever lived
just for us to live now

some did others didn't
have dads to show em how


Nature vs. Nurture has gotta be a heavy dose of both mixed with some mystical forces before, during and after.

Monday yet?

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by UGLI baby

Nature vs Nurture, Page 1909.




(making notes for my intern Jonathan who's helping me organize the P2020 coffee table book)

From one book to another...

Outliers was mentioned, and Project 2020 is a perfect representation of an outlier. It was born in the right place at EXACTLY the right time. It was born with all the potential, (known artists from inside and outside the hobby, 20 iconic cards of baseball legends). It has thus far been nurtured well.

Will it continue to strive to be the best? Is it willing to put in the effort? If so, the sky might not be high enough to contain the limit. Only time knows for sure.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by samcam

Inspired by Black Boredom and Wheeler....quick n dirty lol

https://soundcloud.com/sam-cameron-1/blowout-bored

outta nowhere
to there in mommas world

billions of babies
born from billions of girls

billions of mommas
in billions of situations

billions of journeys
alone
we all take em

nurture vs nature
every second every day

does every minute that were livin
depend on how were made

every chance we've been given
every one we never take

every lesson we been taught


every color
every shade

what makes a man quick
what makes a woman strong

some come with it
just get it and carry on

some dont dont miss it never
know that its gone

every heartbeats a rhythm
every energy a song

every players part is needed
no need to fight facts
we didnt get here alone
had to have each others backs

took all who ever lived
just for us to live now

some did others didn't
have dads to show em how


Nature vs. Nurture has gotta be a heavy dose of both mixed with some mystical forces before, during and after.

Monday yet?

Okay, that is awesome!

I’m going to read and play it for my kids today before school. Let’s see how it affects/inspires them.

Thanks for creating and posting it. Seriously.

[samcam]

*Inspired by BLAKE, boredom and Wheeler!!!

**Matt, thanks! Happy Monday!

[Bigbluesooner]

Catching up on the last few pages feels like sitting through couples therapy with the two biggest pumpers of P2020.

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by efdot

I put Ichiro on a skateboard. Why not?

Every photo I found of him looks like he had a perfect skateboarder stance!!

Drops tomorrow with JK5 McGwire.

Perfect little personal Efdot Easter egg!


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[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Blame it on the English language. It's awkward writing and saying "he or she" or s/he, and "they" is just bad grammar

‘They’ is ~actually a much more professional and neutral way of addressing the “you” or “s/he” conundrum with the English language.


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[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by Bigbluesooner

Catching up on the last few pages feels like sitting through couples therapy with the two biggest pumpers of P2020.

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[spiffycards]

It's been a while since I posted in this thread, but regarding nature/nurture and gladwell:

The 10,000 hour rule and other statements made by gladwell have been shown to be untrue. See https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...eal-180952410/ for example.

There really is no evidence to support Blake's conclusions about nurture playing a much larger role. Wheeler's opinion is borne out to be true based on more than 50 years of research and frankly, just everyday experience and common sense. In any endeavor some people are clearly more naturally talented than others. That's not to say that people who grind it out can't achieve similar or better results, but with equal amounts of effort and time spent practicing some people are just going to perform better. That's not a value judgment at all, and ascribing value to people based on what they do is repugnant. It does however seem self-evident.

[PDCCollectibles]

Haven't checked/looked (or had the time) at cards 1-70'ish lately.....uptick, stable, lower, etc? Anyone still monitoring? I know a couple peeps on here were keeping a spreadsheet at one time...

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

Haven't checked/looked (or had the time) at cards 1-70'ish lately.....uptick, stable, lower, etc? Anyone still monitoring? I know a couple peeps on here were keeping a spreadsheet at one time...

Yes.

Lol but for real.... it’s up, its stable, and it’s down. 1-70 is a broad range that has like 4 different eras within it. The closer you get to the front of that list the more stable/upticky it becomes.


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[eldustino]

Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

Haven't checked/looked (or had the time) at cards 1-70'ish lately.....uptick, stable, lower, etc? Anyone still monitoring? I know a couple peeps on here were keeping a spreadsheet at one time...

This site may not make collectors/flippers/hoarders happy, but it has some data showing those cards lower, not sure where the data is coming from but seems to be updated regularly to me:

https://www.prjct2020.com/all-cards-old-to-new

I listed my only duplicates at auction and got roughly these prices with a few bidders.

[Silas Barnaby]

I need some new cards drops and print runs to put that weekend conversation in the rear view mirror.

[Silas Barnaby]

Heckman waking up this morning after his vacay, realizing he has to do six (6) print runs postings.

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by eldustino

This site may not make collectors/flippers/hoarders happy, but it has some data showing those cards lower, not sure where the data is coming from but seems to be updated regularly to me:

https://www.prjct2020.com/all-cards-old-to-new

I listed my only duplicates at auction and got roughly these prices with a few bidders.

Thanks....I agree that is does look pretty accurate after checking a few current eBay sales and comparing them to the list.

[Silas Barnaby]

Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

Thanks....I agree that is does look pretty accurate after checking a few current eBay sales and comparing them to the list.

So we're poor?

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

So we're poor?

I wouldn't say that at all....most of the first 60 are over the MSRP ($19.99)...with the exception of Jeter Grotesk. After that, not so much, but still have a long ways to go until card #400.....

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by eldustino

This site may not make collectors/flippers/hoarders happy, but it has some data showing those cards lower, not sure where the data is coming from but seems to be updated regularly to me:

https://www.prjct2020.com/all-cards-old-to-new

I listed my only duplicates at auction and got roughly these prices with a few bidders.

They're definitely not getting the data from StockX.

[redauto5]

Originally Posted by spiffycards

It's been a while since I posted in this thread, but regarding nature/nurture and gladwell:

The 10,000 hour rule and other statements made by gladwell have been shown to be untrue. See https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...eal-180952410/ for example.

There really is no evidence to support Blake's conclusions about nurture playing a much larger role. Wheeler's opinion is borne out to be true based on more than 50 years of research and frankly, just everyday experience and common sense. In any endeavor some people are clearly more naturally talented than others. That's not to say that people who grind it out can't achieve similar or better results, but with equal amounts of effort and time spent practicing some people are just going to perform better. That's not a value judgment at all, and ascribing value to people based on what they do is repugnant. It does however seem self-evident.

I love this part.

[DioBrando]

Print runs are going up, Don C Brett did 3002. Blake Griffey 5724

[RyanSwinger]

WOW pretty large numbers from Griffey (5724) and Don C (3002). Didnt expect either that high.

[eldustino]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

They're definitely not getting the data from StockX.

How are stockx sales going? Asking seriously, I'm not on there.

Are you saying these don't match ask prices or bid prices?

Not trying to be smarta...... I really don't know.

[Shinjoy]

Originally Posted by eldustino

This site may not make collectors/flippers/hoarders happy, but it has some data showing those cards lower, not sure where the data is coming from but seems to be updated regularly to me:

https://www.prjct2020.com/all-cards-old-to-new

I listed my only duplicates at auction and got roughly these prices with a few bidders.

This is accurate for the cards that I'm following, but we demand a time series!

Most of the cards that I've bought or I'm tracking to buy have been stable in the last two months, but that's probably more an indication of my taste, which is really exceptional.

[ThoseBackPages]

#ThanksTopps

[RyanSwinger]

Large numbers from Gwynn (7247) and Robinson (3415) as well.


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