2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 1017

MIRRABB · 07-07-2020, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tpeichel34

My preference is Jim Jordan. I think he is rock solid.

Aside from the from the fact he's not charismatic nor intelligent, as time passes it becomes increasingly clear how involved he was with covering up massive amounts of sexual abuse by Dr. Richard Strauss.

Ray27Ray52 · 07-07-2020, 02:18 PM

They are all crooks. It's bizarre to me that as I get older I'm actually less interested in politics. You'd figure it would be the other way around.

tpeichel34 · 07-07-2020, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

On which ballot will I find the BLM candidate? I'm trying to figure out which political party they belong to.

I suspect the vast majority (just an assumption) of the rioters don't vote and/or have never voted, nor will they.

Again, I don't think the rioting or anything is associated with Trump as a president and has nothing to do with him, as much as some people may like to believe it does.

I think the BLM rioting directly relates to the upcoming election. Same thing happened prior to 2016 election.

yanksfan1 · 07-07-2020, 02:20 PM

Who do you all think the GOP frontrunners will be in 2024 and how does the result of 2020 affect it? For example, there's a lot of speculation about Don Jr running but if his dad gets wiped out in 2020, that has to affect his prospects. You also could have Don Sr make another run at it if he loses this year.

NeedChapmans · 07-07-2020, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

They are all crooks. It's bizarre to me that as I get older I'm actually less interested in politics. You'd figure it would be the other way around.

Turns a lot of people off. But I'm one who believes that you can really do a lot for the community around you at the local level. Look at how much more power the governor of your state has than the President of the United States in terms of making an impact on you and your everyday.

Once the kids are out of grade-school, I'm almost certain I'll be taking a stab at local and state politics. You want to make a difference, that's where you can get stuff done and largely stay out of the "swamp".

gopherfan · 07-07-2020, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I'm asking.

Aren't they protesting and rioting over police violence? Didn't this ALSO happen under Obama?

Or am I mistaken and did Ferguson and subsequent similar things not happen?

They did happen under Obama. And they are mostly tied to the BLM Movement.

Multiple choice for you:

A) BLM mostly left leaning?
B) BLM is mostly right leaning?

GeechQuest · 07-07-2020, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

You could be right; my percentages could be off in terms of Dem to non-voters.

That said, I think we both agree that they're most certainly not Republicans. And this is the core point in the argument. Even when Republicans stood up to protest for this or that about the lock-downs; how many people did they get? Couple hundred? The 20 that showed up outside the Ohio ladies house?

They show up once a year at the March of Life. And occasionally, you'll see a 2A rally for this or that. But the emotion for these kinds of causes just isn't there.

I don't think they're politically affiliated whatsoever, so yes not Republicans. I just think they're anarchists who want to burn the entire system to the ground.

I don't think you'll ever see "Republicans" looting and destroying property though. I think they will gripe and moan and obstruct POLITICALLY as much as they can though, which is fine. The Democrats POLITICALLY are doing the same thing now.

It's childish in all regards, but I understand why they do it. The electorate are a bunch of emotional children (me included) who just want to cheer their team and feel like they're a part of something. The representatives (ALL OF THEM) give them the emotion they crave (to drive votes) while robbing them absolutely blind. It is what it is.

NeedChapmans · 07-07-2020, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I don't think they're politically affiliated whatsoever, so yes not Republicans. I just think they're anarchists who want to burn the entire system to the ground.

I don't think you'll ever see "Republicans" looting and destroying property though. I think they will gripe and moan and obstruct POLITICALLY as much as they can though, which is fine. The Democrats POLITICALLY are doing the same thing now.

It's childish in all regards, but I understand why they do it. The electorate are a bunch of emotional children (me included) who just want to cheer their team and feel like they're a part of something. The representatives (ALL OF THEM) give them the emotion they crave (to drive votes) while robbing them absolutely blind. It is what it is.

No rebuttal.

Yup.

Ray27Ray52 · 07-07-2020, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Turns a lot of people off. But I'm one who believes that you can really do a lot for the community around you at the local level. Look at how much more power the governor of your state has than the President of the United States in terms of making an impact on you and your everyday.

Once the kids are out of grade-school, I'm almost certain I'll be taking a stab at local and state politics. You want to make a difference, that's where you can get stuff done and largely stay out of the "swamp".

Imagine you make your way into the political arena. You have to scratch the backs of the elite and the common man to get elected. Then you spend your entire tenure in office paying those people back for helping you get elected.

"Hey man I need you to expedite this contract, don't forget if it wasn't for us you wouldn't be here in the first place." You'll hear this everyday while at the same time attempting to manage the needs of your constituents and maintain your integrity. Somethings got to give eventually. Usually it's the integrity that goes first.

Our political system is genius on its face. The fathers of our country had amazing foresight. But the original framework has been bastardized so much that it is barely even recognizable. You can't be a honest man or woman anymore and drain the swamp. The minute you are elected you are the swamp.

GeechQuest · 07-07-2020, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gopherfan

They did happen under Obama. And they are mostly tied to the BLM Movement.

Multiple choice for you:

A) BLM mostly left leaning?
B) BLM is mostly right leaning?

Which BLM are you talking about? They're not the most organized group of people and I honestly can't find a speaker for this group.

I can find DNC chairs, I can name the Tea Party caucus members, I can find the RNC speakers.

I can't find anything for BLM.

YOU may have ascribed the group certain characteristics, but I can't find anything.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/blms-wh...als-and-focus/

Here are their goals. I guess they're left leaning, though I don't really see any nuance in what they're saying so I can ascribe whatever I see fits to their platform. What is "Black Immigration" and which party is pushing that one? Never heard of it.

NeedChapmans · 07-07-2020, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Imagine you make your way into the political arena. You have to scratch the backs of the elite and the common man to get elected. Then you spend your entire tenure in office paying those people back for helping you get elected.

"Hey man I need you to expedite this contract, don't forget if it wasn't for us you wouldn't be here in the first place." You'll hear this everyday while at the same time attempting to manage the needs of your constituents and maintain your integrity. Somethings got to give eventually. Usually it's the integrity that goes first.

Our political system is genius on its face. The fathers of our country had amazing foresight. But the original framework has been bastardized so much that it is barely even recognizable. You can't be a honest man or woman anymore and drain the swamp. The minute you are elected you are the swamp.

I hope to be in the pocket of the local butcher shops. If you see a case of porterhouses outside my front porch in 10 years, probably a mistake.

Ray27Ray52 · 07-07-2020, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I hope to be in the pocket of the local butcher shops. If you see a case of porterhouses outside my front porch in 10 years, probably a mistake.

I might dip my toe in to politics just so I can be tight with the LCS's. FOTL cases FTW.

gopherfan · 07-07-2020, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Which BLM are you talking about? They're not the most organized group of people and I honestly can't find a speaker for this group.

I can find DNC chairs, I can name the Tea Party caucus members, I can find the RNC speakers.

I can't find anything for BLM.

YOU may have ascribed the group certain characteristics, but I can't find anything.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/blms-wh...als-and-focus/

Here are their goals. I guess they're left leaning, though I don't really see any nuance in what they're saying so I can ascribe whatever I see fits to their platform. What is "Black Immigration" and which party is pushing that one? Never heard of it.

Are you just being obtuse?

cnewby · 07-07-2020, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gopherfan

Are you just being obtuse?

Yes. just changes the narrative every time hes proven wrong.

GeechQuest · 07-07-2020, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gopherfan

Are you just being obtuse?

Are you?

Can you qualify anything, or is it just emotion on what you FEEL?

You’ve yet to qualify anything, so I’m going to go with the latter.

GeechQuest · 07-07-2020, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cnewby

Yes. just changes the narrative every time hes proven wrong.

cnewby · 07-07-2020, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Are you?

Can you qualify anything, or is it just emotion on what you FEEL?

You’ve yet to qualify anything, so I’m going to go with the latter.

right on cue - deflecting.

tpeichel34 · 07-07-2020, 02:59 PM

Scarlett Johansson in the news.

Johansson is signed on to provide the motion-capture footage and guttural roars for artists to generate CGI of the legendary desert worm. Critics claim that by agreeing to portray a character other than a white, cisgendered female, Johansson is ignoring the life experiences and struggles of other genders, races, and species of colossal desert-dwelling worm creatures living on the planet Arrakis.

“Scarlett really needs to stay in her lane,” said a representative for the Sandworm Actor’s Guild of America. “Until you’ve lived it, you can’t possibly understand what it truly means to live underground generating spice. Back off, girl!”

“Sandworms suffer exploitation from Fremen tribes stealing their spice every single day, and Johansson feels she can just come in and act like a sandworm, like she’s an actor or something,” he added. “We will not stand for this. We want more film roles, no matter how qualified Johansson is for the part.”

“The roles must flow,” he added ominously.

Sandworm actors across the country began refusing to generate spice until Johansson agrees to remove herself from the film, sources confirmed at publishing time.

https://babylonbee.com/news/scarlett...une-adaptation

Ray27Ray52 · 07-07-2020, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Are you?

Can you qualify anything, or is it just emotion on what you FEEL?

You’ve yet to qualify anything, so I’m going to go with the latter.

I can say with no emotion whatsoever that BLM is a predominantly, if not altogether, exclusive collection of left leaning people. I say this because I have two eyes and a fully functioning brain.

GeechQuest · 07-07-2020, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cnewby

right on cue - deflecting.

I answered his question....

He just didn't like the answer.

GeechQuest · 07-07-2020, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

I can say with no emotion whatsoever that BLM is a predominantly if not altogether exclusive collection of left leaning people. I say this because I have two eyes and a fully functioning brain.

And you know this because of that big brain and those eyes. Got it!

Ray27Ray52 · 07-07-2020, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

And you know this because of that big brain and those eyes. Got it!

That's correct. You should, I dunno, maybe try it sometime.

jk1937 · 07-07-2020, 03:05 PM

i could see tim scott making a run in 2024.

GeechQuest · 07-07-2020, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

That's correct. You should, I dunno, maybe try it sometime.

There's that big brain!!!!

Here's how your big brain and eyes are working:

RayRay is from Baltimore. Baltimore leans left. RayRay leans left.

Ray27Ray52 · 07-07-2020, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

There's that big brain!!!!

Here's how your big brain and eyes are working:

RayRay is from Baltimore. Baltimore leans left. RayRay leans left.

Well you tried. I'll give you that. Your analogy makes not one iota of sense but good effort.

You have to be trolling. I honestly don't think I could find a single person in this country who is confused as to the political leanings of BLM.

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07-07-2020, 02:59 PM	#25418
tpeichel34 Temporarily Suspended Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 777 tpeichel34 tpeichel34	Scarlett Johansson in the news. Johansson is signed on to provide the motion-capture footage and guttural roars for artists to generate CGI of the legendary desert worm. Critics claim that by agreeing to portray a character other than a white, cisgendered female, Johansson is ignoring the life experiences and struggles of other genders, races, and species of colossal desert-dwelling worm creatures living on the planet Arrakis. “Scarlett really needs to stay in her lane,” said a representative for the Sandworm Actor’s Guild of America. “Until you’ve lived it, you can’t possibly understand what it truly means to live underground generating spice. Back off, girl!” “Sandworms suffer exploitation from Fremen tribes stealing their spice every single day, and Johansson feels she can just come in and act like a sandworm, like she’s an actor or something,” he added. “We will not stand for this. We want more film roles, no matter how qualified Johansson is for the part.” “The roles must flow,” he added ominously. Sandworm actors across the country began refusing to generate spice until Johansson agrees to remove herself from the film, sources confirmed at publishing time. https://babylonbee.com/news/scarlett...une-adaptation __________________ Check out my oddball checklist and cards for sale. www.supercollectorcatalog.com

07-07-2020, 02:18 PM	#25402
Ray27Ray52 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 22,677	They are all crooks. It's bizarre to me that as I get older I'm actually less interested in politics. You'd figure it would be the other way around.

07-07-2020, 02:20 PM	#25404
yanksfan1 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Who do you all think the GOP frontrunners will be in 2024 and how does the result of 2020 affect it? For example, there's a lot of speculation about Don Jr running but if his dad gets wiped out in 2020, that has to affect his prospects. You also could have Don Sr make another run at it if he loses this year.

07-07-2020, 03:05 PM	#25423
jk1937 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 253	i could see tim scott making a run in 2024.