Corona Virus

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

Call me stupid but I guess these new employees are all checked and virus free.

Zona and others have opportunity

[NeedChapmans]

Amazing, we were able to ramp the panic up another level today.

I don't know how we do it. I really don't.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by chezball

I honestly don't know how some members leave their house in the morning.

Apparently they don't. They aren't selfish jerks who will infect and kill their loved ones like us.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Zona and others have opportunity

It’s like I said earlier selective caution, at some point in time people are going to say the hell with these restraints and do whatever they were doing before this virus hit. I am not saying that is a smart thing to do but I am saying it is just human nature.

[Dbacksbaseball]

PA is shutting down at midnight. Since all but a few counties have 0 cases of Corona, this isn't unexpected but is a huge disappointment.

For Zona...who said the death impact (many doctors projecting at less then 1%) would have a greater impact then lives ruined. I just walked into the local watering hole, and left after 1 beer. Its morbid.....because everyone was informed that the owners will help people get government assistance but they cannot afford to pay everyone with no table service....

And then Trump says July/Aug.....buckle up people...we still have March, April, May, June at least to go.

The only thing that's scary IMO is the governments power.

[Wiseguy917]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Amazing, we were able to ramp the panic up another level today.

I don't know how we do it. I really don't.

Three people in my state of NJ died so far from Covid-19. The panic at my job is insane. I sent a mass employee email out with the following data straight from the CDC....

Influenza and pneumonia have claimed 1,091 lives in New Jersey from October through Feb. 15, according to the latest data available from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Now everyone is back to work.....

Imagine, just imagine if the death toll from covid-19 hits 1,000 in 4 months. The panic will be absolutely insane, yet we already have 1,000 deaths in my state from the Flu lol. People are actually crazy. I think Covid-19 causes more mental health concerns then respiratory health concerns

[bradical]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Amazing, we were able to ramp the panic up another level today.

I don't know how we do it. I really don't.

Is there any part of you that is thinking, just maybe, these professionals know just a little bit more than you do and have their hands on data/information that is making these decisions for them?

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by Wiseguy917

Three people in my state of NJ died so far from Covid-19. The panic at my job is insane. I sent a mass employee email out with the following data straight from the CDC....

Influenza and pneumonia have claimed 1,091 lives in New Jersey from October through Feb. 15, according to the latest data available from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Now everyone is back to work.....

Imagine, just imagine if the death toll from covid-19 hits 1,000 in 4 months. The panic will be absolutely insane, yet we already have 1,000 deaths in my state from the Flu lol. People are actually crazy. I think Covid-19 causes more mental health concerns then respiratory health concerns

Stop putting out facts and trying to stop the panic. Don't you know you are ruining the Democratic and media agenda here. If Hillary was running, you might disappear just like the Chinese billionaire who criticized the Chinese President over his handling of the coronavirus.

[bradical]

Originally Posted by Wiseguy917

Three people in my state of NJ died so far from Covid-19. The panic at my job is insane. I sent a mass employee email out with the following data straight from the CDC....

Influenza and pneumonia have claimed 1,091 lives in New Jersey from October through Feb. 15, according to the latest data available from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Now everyone is back to work.....

Imagine, just imagine if the death toll from covid-19 hits 1,000 in 4 months. The panic will be absolutely insane, yet we already have 1,000 deaths in my state from the Flu lol. People are actually crazy. I think Covid-19 causes more mental health concerns then respiratory health concerns

I seriously hope this is a joke. I'd be smashing that email recall button faster than seeing Prizm retail is back in stock at Target.com.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

PA is shutting down at midnight. Since all but a few counties have 0 cases of Corona, this isn't unexpected but is a huge disappointment.

For Zona...who said the death impact (many doctors projecting at less then 1%) would have a greater impact then lives ruined. I just walked into the local watering hole, and left after 1 beer. Its morbid.....because everyone was informed that the owners will help people get government assistance but they cannot afford to pay everyone with no table service....

And then Trump says July/Aug.....buckle up people...we still have March, April, May, June at least to go.

The only thing that's scary IMO is the governments power.

People will not make it till July, most people were fine with 2 to 3 weeks maybe even a month but 4 months isn’t feasible. Working from home is fine for maybe 20 percent of the work force but the other 80 percent that can’t work from home will eventually go broke. So many things that can’t be taken care of, I am almost to the point where I say treat it like there is no virus and whoever dies dies. Nobody can live the way they are going to have us live anyways.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by bradical

Is there any part of you that is thinking, just maybe, these professionals know just a little bit more than you do and have their hands on data/information that is making these decisions for them?

I haven't seen one medical professional come on TV and say we know this many Americans will die due to the virus. It is all worst case scenarios and hypothesis. That is no reason to destroy our economy and way of life. A little vigilance yes. Shutting everything down, no. The massive amount of money it is going to take to recover from this disaster is going to be in the trillions; all added to the National Debt because no Democrat or Republican will raise taxes. And that's only on the federal level. I can clearly see tax raises coming on the State level to offset the loss of revenues from casinos being shutdown, sales tax losses, alcohol tax losses, etc.

I will most likely eventually know someone who gets the virus personally and I can say without a shadow of a doubt the way it looks know, they will more than likely recover from it and if I am infected, I will recover from it.

[ClipsandVols]

Courtesy: Corona Virus Memes on Twitter.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by bradical

Is there any part of you that is thinking, just maybe, these professionals know just a little bit more than you do and have their hands on data/information that is making these decisions for them?

Not a single part. No.

And that is not because people know more than I do about certain things. But I do know this.

No one is making decisions. Not Trump, not Trudeau, not city or state leaders ... not international leaders. The only thing these people are doing, is closing things. We're playing follow the leader (Conte) and it's all we've been doing for the last three weeks. Close this, then this, then this, then this. Non-stop. All the news is now just who closed what and for how long.

That's not leadership. And I have yet to hear a single leader provide a plan as to what we're truly expecting out of this. Not one.

[DegaBama]

Don't be surprised if more people die from suicide and stress induced issues than the virus.

We want to all make assumptions, there is mine.

[bradical]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

I haven't seen one medical professional come on TV and say we know this many Americans will die due to the virus. It is all worst case scenarios and hypothesis. That is no reason to destroy our economy and way of life. A little vigilance yes. Shutting everything down, no. The massive amount of money it is going to take to recover from this disaster is going to be in the trillions; all added to the National Debt because no Democrat or Republican will raise taxes. And that's only on the federal level. I can clearly see tax raises coming on the State level to offset the loss of revenues from casinos being shutdown, sales tax losses, alcohol tax losses, etc.

I will most likely eventually know someone who gets the virus personally and I can say without a shadow of a doubt the way it looks know, they will more than likely recover from it and if I am infected, I will recover from it.

Have you seen any medical professionals come on and saying anything about shutting down everything because we are trying to limit the spread of the virus?

We are not trying to limit deaths right now.

We are trying to not overwhelm the health care system.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONSx...ature=youtu.be

Video for those that would like to watch/listen. Right now, they have 4 confirmed cases of the virus in their county. For hospitals to be overrun in 2-3 weeks, again IDK. Seattle had their virus come in 2 months ago, seem to be doing OK without the shutdown.

Guess it's me vs. the newly appointed director!

And you are privy to the available hospital beds, most importantly the CCU beds and negative pressure rooms.

I’m sure you also know at what capacity the hospital are currently at, as well as seasonal trends as far as census numbers.

Oh and I’m sure you are aware of the available number of physicians and hospital staff - as well as those already in quarantine.

Please feel free to divulge regarding your expertise.

PS - you know nothin’ Jon Snow.

[TheHeel]

Farts!

https://twitter.com/chelseaperetti/s...214552579?s=21

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

Of course, we can pull this up in 2-3 weeks to verify if the random dude was wrong or if panic mode got the best of Dr. Bogan.

As long as you factor in the response and how the current precautions affected, yes I’d love to have that discussion.

Me thinks you just want to whine.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Don't be surprised if more people die from suicide and stress induced issues than the virus.

We want to all make assumptions, there is mine.

Agreed, but remember it’s all about flattening the curve.

[bradical]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Not a single part. No.

And that is not because people know more than I do about certain things. But I do know this.

No one is making decisions. Not Trump, not Trudeau, not city or state leaders ... not international leaders. The only thing these people are doing, is closing things. We're playing follow the leader (Conte) and it's all we've been doing for the last three weeks. Close this, then this, then this, then this. Non-stop. All the news is now just who closed what and for how long.

That's not leadership. And I have yet to hear a single leader provide a plan as to what we're truly expecting out of this. Not one.

No one is making decisions, or no one is making decisions you agree with?

Decisions are being made, and now the governments/cities/states are finding ways to enforce them.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by bradical

Have you seen any medical professionals come on and saying anything about shutting down everything because we are trying to limit the spread of the virus?

We are not trying to limit deaths right now.

We are trying to not overwhelm the health care system.

No. I just see dumb politicians doing this. The medical experts don't care about the economy. It is not their line of work. I think more has been said here on your BS about overwhelming the medical community. You are not overwhelming anything when they are sending mild or non-life threatening cases home for self quarantine which is what a lot of these cases are proving to be.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Not a single part. No.

And that is not because people know more than I do about certain things. But I do know this.

No one is making decisions. Not Trump, not Trudeau, not city or state leaders ... not international leaders. The only thing these people are doing, is closing things. We're playing follow the leader (Conte) and it's all we've been doing for the last three weeks. Close this, then this, then this, then this. Non-stop. All the news is now just who closed what and for how long.

That's not leadership. And I have yet to hear a single leader provide a plan as to what we're truly expecting out of this. Not one.

They’ve told you what they expect. You just stick your fingers in your ears.

They are expecting the hospital system to be overwhelmed. They are taking the CDC’s precautions and applying them to their jurisdictions as appropriate based on their data. They are open and transparent.

You just keep saying you don’t believe them and you know better.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

And you are privy to the available hospital beds, most importantly the CCU beds and negative pressure rooms.

I’m sure you also know at what capacity the hospital are currently at, as well as seasonal trends as far as census numbers.

Oh and I’m sure you are aware of the available number of physicians and hospital staff - as well as those already in quarantine.

Please feel free to divulge regarding your expertise.

PS - you know nothin’ Jon Snow.

I know that we have more than 136 hospital beds in Florida.

I mean, stabbings and shootings in Miami-Dade are taking up more beds than the freaking coronavirus statewide.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

And you are privy to the available hospital beds, most importantly the CCU beds and negative pressure rooms.

I’m sure you also know at what capacity the hospital are currently at, as well as seasonal trends as far as census numbers.

Oh and I’m sure you are aware of the available number of physicians and hospital staff - as well as those already in quarantine.

Please feel free to divulge regarding your expertise.

PS - you know nothin’ Jon Snow.

My expertise is in numbers. Mathematics. Statistics. I know nothing of the hospital bed count in Allegheny PA. But again, people are guessing. And they're guessing at overreaction levels to achieve a specific goal. That goal, is to scare people from leaving their house.

It's working. It's panicked a country, obliterated an economy, but the goal of getting people to stay home is working.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

As long as you factor in the response and how the current precautions affected, yes I’d love to have that discussion.

Me thinks you just want to whine.

I didn't ask what you think, to be honest.