Corona Virus - Page 110

rman112 · 03-15-2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

What does the CDC know???? This is no big deal. :/. Smh.

Keep in mind they can't afford the risk of underplaying it, though. Once precautions are set, no one with any personal or professional stake on the line is going to buck the trend.

jlzinck · 03-15-2020, 06:43 PM

Massachusetts just cancelled schools through April 7th

Restaurants and bars CANNOT seat people. Only take out (Obviously bars are done)
No gatherings of more than 25 people. When asked if stores (aside from grocery stares and pharmacies) can remain open he said they could but no more than 25 people.

SanAntonioSpurs · 03-15-2020, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

600 deaths are worth the panic we are seeing? Here are some death rates from the CDC.

Now tell me why we should panic and shut down our entire society over 600 deaths? Even if it reached the same deaths as the flu last year, 12,000, it is a drop in the bucket compared to the above. But please let's destroy our economy and way of life.

Our numbers are artificially low due to spotty testing. As usual our government isn’t any where near being prepared for this. But shrugging off deaths just because it’s low currently is a dickhead move. But if it was your fam your tune would change.

rman112 · 03-15-2020, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

How many times does it need to be stated that the shutdown is preventative measure to not overburden our healthcare system?

Italy only has 1800 deaths, 24k confirmed cases and they are overburdened. They had less than 5 confirmed cases 3 weeks ago. We're simply trying to get out ahead of things.

We're going in circles here.

That's great for now. What's the end game? We don't know, right? Say it's 2 months from now and we're still at 'I don't know'. Then what? What's being asked (forced, really) is just not practical.

Scottish Punk · 03-15-2020, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

600 deaths are worth the panic we are seeing? Here are some death rates from the CDC.

Now tell me why we should panic and shut down our entire society over 600 deaths? Even if it reached the same deaths as the flu last year, 12,000, it is a drop in the bucket compared to the above. But please let's destroy our economy and way of life.

Well, think of this way. We don't do anything special about the flu. Death rate on the flu is .1%. If we just let the coronavirus run its course, assuming the death rate drops from the 3% down to just 1%. If you take just 1%, deaths will be 120,000. If the death stays at 3% than it could get to 360,000. More than any on your false equivalence list.

KhalDrogo · 03-15-2020, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

You mean catch something that most of us are going to beat and recover from? This is where the panic is BS. There are people coming out saying they have survived this and what their symptoms were. If you listen to the media and some in this thread, you would think half of our population is going to die from this. I'm guessing that in the end, more Americans will not die from this than died from H1N1.

Probably not. But our proportion of severe cases may be higher than Italy due to the poor baseline health of the average American.

NeedChapmans · 03-15-2020, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

That's great for now. What's the end game? We don't know, right? Say it's 2 months from now and we're still at 'I don't know'. Then what? What's being asked (forced, really) is just not practical.

No it isn't. I have a hard time believing that school years will be lost, economies in ruin and the general well-being of people will be completely wiped out as a result of a not so terrible, somewhat worse version of the flu.

Please make it not so.

rman112 · 03-15-2020, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

No it isn't. I have a hard time believing that school years will be lost, economies in ruin and the general well-being of people will be completely wiped out as a result of a not so terrible, somewhat worse version of the flu.

Please make it not so.

So, it is.

Siberian13 · 03-15-2020, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SanAntonioSpurs

Our numbers are artificially low due to spotty testing. As usual our government isn’t any where near being prepared for this. But shrugging off deaths just because it’s low currently is a dickhead move. But if it was your fam your tune would change.

DegaBama · 03-15-2020, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BGT Masters

I am curious to see if there is a rise in heart attacks and suicides this year because of the stress people are feeling from whats going on and the fear that is being spread whether you feel it excessive or not.

There will be. Imagine if this goes 8 weeks, 12 weeks, more? Will people be able to sustain their jobs? I work in professional sports, I have nothing to do now except get ready to refund a bunch of people and not take revenue in for quite a ready. I SHOULD be fine, eventually we'll put balls in hoops and pucks in nets, but you never know. We're saying that a lot, aren't we? We just don't know.

fulltritty · 03-15-2020, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SanAntonioSpurs

Our numbers are artificially low due to spotty testing. As usual our government isn’t any where near being prepared for this. But shrugging off deaths just because it’s low currently is a dickhead move. But if it was your fam your tune would change.

Actually I would be sad they died, but I wouldn't expect our entire countries economy to collapse so they could still be alive. They could have died hundreds of other ways just like regular Americans do daily. Personally, I think destroying our economy by panicking is a dickhead move.

No to mention, I have no one in my household who would more than likely die from this anyway.

I'm not sure how you survive daily life without having constant meltdowns if everyone dying all of the time upsets you.

rman112 · 03-15-2020, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DegaBama

There will be. Imagine if this goes 8 weeks, 12 weeks, more? Will people be able to sustain their jobs? I work in professional sports, I have nothing to do now except get ready to refund a bunch of people and not take revenue in for quite a ready. I SHOULD be fine, eventually we'll put balls in hoops and pucks in nets, but you never know. We're saying that a lot, aren't we? We just don't know.

Nothing says easing the calm and healthy mental stability like being stuck in the house 24/7.

And CDC says no more gathering for 8 weeks. So.. you're screwed.

fulltritty · 03-15-2020, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Well, think of this way. We don't do anything special about the flu. Death rate on the flu is .1%. If we just let the coronavirus run its course, assuming the death rate drops from the 3% down to just 1%. If you take just 1%, deaths will be 120,000. If the death stays at 3% than it could get to 360,000. More than any on your false equivalence list.

How is it false equivalence? Those are death numbers yearly from the CDC not something made up like you all keep making up how many people are going to die from this. Fact is, no one knows how many people could die from this but the vast majority of deaths so far have been the elderly and people with previously compromised health. How about instead of 300+ million people panicking and our economy crashing, we just quarantine those most likely to die if infected. I know, sounds too much like common sense.

SleeperCards · 03-15-2020, 07:05 PM

CDC just put out recommendation of canceling events of 50 or more people for next 8 weeks.

sonnyday · 03-15-2020, 07:13 PM

We are laying off 1000 people tomorrow do to being an Ohio restaurant group. Delivery wont even help us pay rent. But we are going to play it for a week and see how it goes.

There is a rumor out there that within 72 hours they expect Trump to declare a 14 day quarantine for the entire United States. Not sure how much truth there is to it.

Siberian13 · 03-15-2020, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

CDC just put out recommendation of canceling events of 50 or more people for next 8 weeks.

Just a recommendation

Dbacksbaseball · 03-15-2020, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sonnyday

We are laying off 1000 people tomorrow do to being an Ohio restaurant group. Delivery wont even help us pay rent. But we are going to play it for a week and see how it goes.

There is a rumor out there that within 72 hours they expect Trump to declare a 14 day quarantine for the entire United States. Not sure how much truth there is to it.

Oh by Tuesday/Wednesday we will be quarantined coast to coast. There is no doubt about it.

Were getting close to Marshall Law for a chest cold.....yikes. Good Job Lefties.

DegaBama · 03-15-2020, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sonnyday

We are laying off 1000 people tomorrow do to being an Ohio restaurant group. Delivery wont even help us pay rent. But we are going to play it for a week and see how it goes.

There is a rumor out there that within 72 hours they expect Trump to declare a 14 day quarantine for the entire United States. Not sure how much truth there is to it.

Temp layoff? Just curious how owners are handling this.

deansayso · 03-15-2020, 07:21 PM

Everyone's working from home... Well I'm a farmer so I'm only going to grow enough to feed my family. The rest of you are on your own! Good luck

sonnyday · 03-15-2020, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DegaBama

Temp layoff? Just curious how owners are handling this.

Yes we hope everything is temporary. But really dont know when we can re-open.

Siberian13 · 03-15-2020, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by deansayso

Everyone's working from home... Well I'm a farmer so I'm only going to grow enough to feed my family. The rest of you are on your own! Good luck

Selfish

DegaBama · 03-15-2020, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sonnyday

Yes we hope everything is temporary. But really dont know when we can re-open.

I hope for the best for you and everyone in your restaurant group!

JustinVerlander07 · 03-15-2020, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DegaBama

Temp layoff? Just curious how owners are handling this.

I work at a bar as a cook. My owner is cutting everyones hours as Michigan has put in place that restaurants can only be at 50% occupancy for the next 3 weeks. It's looking more likely that they'll be a government order to just shut down restaurants though.

Devastating.

kerg · 03-15-2020, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BGT Masters

I am curious to see if there is a rise in heart attacks and suicides this year because of the stress people are feeling from whats going on and the fear that is being spread whether you feel it excessive or not.

See my post in 2595 about our struggles with my daughter.

GeechQuest · 03-15-2020, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

Actually I would be sad they died, but I wouldn't expect our entire countries economy to collapse so they could still be alive. They could have died hundreds of other ways just like regular Americans do daily. Personally, I think destroying our economy by panicking is a dickhead move.

No to mention, I have no one in my household who would more than likely die from this anyway.

I'm not sure how you survive daily life without having constant meltdowns if everyone dying all of the time upsets you.

How many people would you let die to keep your job?

03-15-2020, 06:43 PM	#2727
jlzinck Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cape Cod, MA Posts: 36,119 jlzinck jl_zinck	Massachusetts just cancelled schools through April 7th Restaurants and bars CANNOT seat people. Only take out (Obviously bars are done) No gatherings of more than 25 people. When asked if stores (aside from grocery stares and pharmacies) can remain open he said they could but no more than 25 people. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/jonzinck

03-15-2020, 07:05 PM	#2739
SleeperCards Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: The Internet Posts: 16,057 SleeperCards Sleeper	CDC just put out recommendation of canceling events of 50 or more people for next 8 weeks.

03-15-2020, 07:13 PM	#2740
sonnyday Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cleeeevelaaaaand Posts: 2,741 Sonnyday	We are laying off 1000 people tomorrow do to being an Ohio restaurant group. Delivery wont even help us pay rent. But we are going to play it for a week and see how it goes. There is a rumor out there that within 72 hours they expect Trump to declare a 14 day quarantine for the entire United States. Not sure how much truth there is to it.

03-15-2020, 07:21 PM	#2744
deansayso Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,472 dmdean81	Everyone's working from home... Well I'm a farmer so I'm only going to grow enough to feed my family. The rest of you are on your own! Good luck