Corona Virus

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Where's soxfanguy (or whatever his screen name is) when you need him?

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He could almost get it to 5k by himself. Haha.

[caflisch78]

Originally Posted by persona

If this thread reaches 5,000 posts before March 18th 11pm, I’ll donate $5k to another charity. Post away

What’s another 5k for persona bump.

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by caflisch78

What’s another 5k for persona bump.

We have to remind everyone often.

[Timmay]

If we could get Zona to break those long winded posts up; we'd get there in no time.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by Timmay

So it depends on what news channel you watch. This tells me all you want to do is blame Trump. All of your views are based on biased news coverage. We get it. You hate Trump.

Not at all what I meant by it, I spent a lot of time watching Fox News just yesterday because I actually was interested in seeing the comparison between the 2 channels.

By that statement I more meant that in a given hour on something like CNN, there will be countless of doctors talking about that stuff (it's unfortunately about all they talk about, which I wish they would do less).

While on Fox News, they spent a lot of time talking about other stuff (a lot of Biden/Dem/Lib bashing and economy talk), which also while fine as I get that's what their viewers want to see, might only do one segment on this, and while they have doctors talk about it too, they spent significantly less time on it.

It was more of a "if you're not seeing other doctors see these same things, spend one hour on a channel other than Fox News and you'll have seen an abundance of them

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

Not at all what I meant by it, I spent a lot of time watching Fox News just yesterday because I actually was interested in seeing the comparison between the 2 channels.

By that statement I more meant that in a given hour on something like CNN, there will be countless of doctors talking about that stuff (it's unfortunately about all they talk about, which I wish they would do less).

While on Fox News, they spent a lot of time talking about other stuff (a lot of Biden/Dem/Lib bashing and economy talk), which also while fine as I get that's what their viewers want to see, might only do one segment on this, and while they have doctors talk about it too, they spent significantly less time on it.

It was more of a "if you're not seeing other doctors see these same things, spend one hour on a channel other than Fox News and you'll have seen an abundance of them

Your bias is obvious and it forms your opinion, which is all it is.

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

Not at all what I meant by it, I spent a lot of time watching Fox News just yesterday because I actually was interested in seeing the comparison between the 2 channels.

By that statement I more meant that in a given hour on something like CNN, there will be countless of doctors talking about that stuff (it's unfortunately about all they talk about, which I wish they would do less).

While on Fox News, they spent a lot of time talking about other stuff (a lot of Biden/Dem/Lib bashing and economy talk), which also while fine as I get that's what their viewers want to see, might only do one segment on this, and while they have doctors talk about it too, they spent significantly less time on it.

It was more of a "if you're not seeing other doctors see these same things, spend one hour on a channel other than Fox News and you'll have seen an abundance of them

This thread almost mirrors the Politics thread as far as how people view this.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by Corporal Lance

Don't get your panties twisted because I called you a name.

I watch CNN, Al Jazeera, and whatever I can find over here. Including Fox.

I actually do understand immunology. As do many of my colleagues. This is not as big of a deal as you are trying to make it out to be in my opinion, but I COULD BE WRONG. It's just, y'know, I happened to have studied this. And not on Google.

And again, because I abhor how we act on the internet, I wish you nothing but the best and wish you well.

I think thousands of people dying in Italy, which very well could happen here, is a very big deal if even a small fraction of them could be saved if people were willing to disrupt their lives by not doing frivolous things like crowding a bar to drink.

That's all

I've seen many experts and articles talking about "flattening the curve" and how practicing proper social distancing, even if it makes for an inconvenience for a couple weeks, can potentially save lives.

And when people flippantly disregard that by just saying things like "oh that's never going to happen here" and "it's not that bad because most people will live" is just beyond frustrating.

[Wombat]

Originally Posted by persona

If this thread reaches 5,000 posts before March 18th 11pm, I’ll donate $5k to another charity. Post away

You rock groovy dude!

[Wombat]

Originally Posted by persona

If this thread reaches 5,000 posts before March 18th 11pm, I’ll donate $5k to another charity. Post away

wait, 'another charity', what was the first charity?

[persona]

Originally Posted by Wombat

wait, 'another charity', what was the first charity?

Originally Posted by trixstar

I have no affiliation with this org just thought I'd share the link in case anyone wanted to donate

http://www.nokidhungry.org/blog/what...ns-hungry-kids

I'm far from wealthy but I have kids and I can at least contribute a little for kids who may suffer from this.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by persona

I'm far from wealthy but I have kids and I can at least contribute a little for kids who may suffer from this.

That's AWESOME!

I did see that earlier when you posted it but I didn't notice the amount in there, great on you!

Too bad there are idiots like that guy with the thousands of hand sanitizers trying to make tens of thousands of dollars off this situation by being a total douche.

I think that's one thing that every person in this thread can actually agree on, no? lol

Really hoping someone with the money like the billionaire sports team owners offers him a fair price (even at a small profit because he's not likely to do it without that) for all of it and then donates it to a wide variety of hospitals, day care centers, etc.

[GeechQuest]

I changed my mind, Persona with the best post in the thread!

Unrelated, my buddy at the hospital had 2 patients pop and that are on ventilators that aren’t accounted for by the county as “positive” cases. Said people are waiting in the halls to get tested and not getting taken back unless they have serious breathing problems. Most are being told to go away.

Now the craziest story from last night:

Local police arrest a guy for DWI, and bring him to my buddies hospital. Guy showed no symptoms or anything. Cops dropped him off and told hospital staff to let him sober up then release him. Apparently, the cops say they are not taking anybody into custody who MAY be a carrier so that the inmates in jail can remain “clean”. Guy walked out sober this morning.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I changed my mind, Persona with the best post in the thread!

Unrelated, my buddy at the hospital had 2 patients pop and that are on ventilators that aren’t accounted for by the county as “positive” cases. Said people are waiting in the halls to get tested and not getting taken back unless they have serious breathing problems. Most are being told to go away.

Now the craziest story from last night:

Local police arrest a guy for DWI, and bring him to my buddies hospital. Guy showed no symptoms or anything. Cops dropped him off and told hospital staff to let him sober up then release him. Apparently, the cops say they are not taking anybody into custody who MAY be a carrier so that the inmates in jail can remain “clean”. Guy walked out sober this morning.

As it should be. If you're young and healthy, don't flood the hospitals.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by Timmay

This thread almost mirrors the Politics thread as far as how people view this.

It's a shame, it really shouldn't be a partisan issue. One side is constantly accusing the other of fear mongering, while the other side accuses them of not taking it seriously. Why does everything need to be so divisive?

Here are some facts I think we can all agree on.
1) A lot of people will become infected.
2) The majority people that become infected will be okay.
3) A lot of people will also die, and we should take reasonable precautions to keep those most at risk safe.

I think we start disagreeing when it comes to the point of "what are reasonable precautions?". Or are one of those 3 views also controversial?

I personally prefer the US way of handling it with the shutdowns as opposed to the UK plan of getting everyone infected at a more rapid pace and hoping for herd immunity at a later point, but we'll get to see how both play out. Maybe their health care system is better equipped to handle the projected numbers than ours would be.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I changed my mind, Persona with the best post in the thread!

Unrelated, my buddy at the hospital had 2 patients pop and that are on ventilators that aren’t accounted for by the county as “positive” cases. Said people are waiting in the halls to get tested and not getting taken back unless they have serious breathing problems. Most are being told to go away.

Now the craziest story from last night:

Local police arrest a guy for DWI, and bring him to my buddies hospital. Guy showed no symptoms or anything. Cops dropped him off and told hospital staff to let him sober up then release him. Apparently, the cops say they are not taking anybody into custody who MAY be a carrier so that the inmates in jail can remain “clean”. Guy walked out sober this morning.

First story is also why our numbers right now are "low" because of lack of testing, and I'm sure death numbers are higher than known too because people passed before being officially tested.

Second story just makes me think that the DWI guy very well may have caught it, no?

I'm not trying to defend a guy who got a DWI, but can't they find a place to quarantine people like that not at a hospital that is apparently overrun with people thinking they have the virus?

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by Wombat

wait, 'another charity', what was the first charity?

How big do you feel right now?

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

It's a shame, it really shouldn't be a partisan issue. One side is constantly accusing the other of fear mongering, while the other side accuses them of not taking it seriously. Why does everything need to be so divisive?

Here are some facts I think we can all agree on.
1) A lot of people will become infected.
2) The majority people that become infected will be okay.
3) A lot of people will also die, and we should take reasonable precautions to keep those most at risk safe.

I think we start disagreeing when it comes to the point of "what are reasonable precautions?". Or are one of those 3 views also controversial?

I personally prefer the US way of handling it with the shutdowns as opposed to the UK plan of getting everyone infected at a more rapid pace and hoping for herd immunity at a later point, but we'll get to see how both play out. Maybe their health care system is better equipped to handle the projected numbers than ours would be.

I'd agree with almost everything here, the one small thing I'd say is that it's not like the US is the only country to shut certain things down and are still having issues. I know we don't hear about everything being shut down in Europe (I know you specifically called out the UK, so maybe it's different there, I just don't know) but most sporting events there were shut down, or at least done with no fans, before we did or at worst, the same time.

That's why things make me nervous here, our actions aren't all that different from many places in Europe, except they have a leg up on testing, which I don't think anyone can really argue against that one, that's just black and white when you look at #'s of tests done.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

First story is also why our numbers right now are "low" because of lack of testing, and I'm sure death numbers are higher than known too because people passed before being officially tested.

Second story just makes me think that the DWI guy very well may have caught it, no?

I'm not trying to defend a guy who got a DWI, but can't they find a place to quarantine people like that not at a hospital that is apparently overrun with people thinking they have the virus?

No. According to my buddy nobody thought the DWI case had it, but the police weren’t taking the risk of him spreading it to the prisoners in County Jail. No clue if that’s current procedure right now in Austin/Travis County, but it 100% happened to that guy last night.

[Wombat]

Originally Posted by cnewby

How big do you feel right now?

How big do I feel?

Big enough to recognize you have no sense of humor
Geesh, get over yourself

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

I'd agree with almost everything here, the one small thing I'd say is that it's not like the US is the only country to shut certain things down and are still having issues. I know we don't hear about everything being shut down in Europe (I know you specifically called out the UK, so maybe it's different there, I just don't know) but most sporting events there were shut down, or at least done with no fans, before we did or at worst, the same time.

That's why things make me nervous here, our actions aren't all that different from many places in Europe, except they have a leg up on testing, which I don't think anyone can really argue against that one, that's just black and white when you look at #'s of tests done.

One thing I'm struggling with is, why are our hospitals not flooded already?

Why is Italy 'ahead' of us by ~2 Weeks? Aren't we a bigger economic hub for Wuhan/China than Northern Italy?

That's the one glimmer of hope I have that we WONT be Italy in a week. A theory that we've been dealing with this virus just as long, if not longer, than Italy, but our societal norms, less densely populated country, and younger median age is the difference.

Or did Trumps travel ban really buy us additional time that we are now squandering?

Either way, I do have someone at my work here in Colorado that has tested positive for CV as of 3/9, I have not been in the office since 3/5 and do not plan on being back until (at the earliest) 3/24. I am only going out for essentials, and even so, I won't need to go out for another couple weeks truly. I am not taking any chances as I have a 6 month old at home who is taken care of my 60+ year old parents a few days week.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

No. According to my buddy nobody thought the DWI case had it, but the police weren’t taking the risk of him spreading it to the prisoners in County Jail. No clue if that’s current procedure right now in Austin/Travis County, but it 100% happened to that guy last night.

Yea, sorry if I worded it wrong, that's what I was saying too.

I more meant it sounded like he was someone who may have NOW caught it because of the police just dropping him off at the hospital like that if there are tons of people there showing some type of symptoms.

That's what I thought was kinda wrong of them to do, guy should definitely be prosecuted for the DWI, but just leaving him at a hospital that is a bit overrun at the moment seems wrong, no?

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

One thing I'm struggling with is, why are our hospitals not flooded already?

Why is Italy 'ahead' of us by ~2 Weeks? Aren't we a bigger economic hub for Wuhan/China than Northern Italy?

That's the one glimmer of hope I have that we WONT be Italy in a week. A theory that we've been dealing with this virus just as long, if not longer, than Italy, but our societal norms, less densely populated country, and younger median age is the difference.

Or did Trumps travel ban really buy us additional time that we are now squandering?

Either way, I do have someone at my work here in Colorado that has tested positive for CV as of 3/9, I have not been in the office since 3/5 and do not plan on being back until (at the earliest) 3/24. I am only going out for essentials, and even so, I won't need to go out for another couple weeks truly. I am not taking any chances as I have a 6 month old at home who is taken care of my 60+ year old parents a few days week.

From what I've read, the belief amongst experts (and I know that word is widely looked at oddly now) was that Italy was a 7-10 days ahead of us in terms of community spread.

Trump's initial China ban likely did buy us some time, and I thought that was a great idea and couldn't understand why Dems were upset with it.

But I do think that extra time was squandered by the refusal to use the WHO tests that the rest of the world was using, they were testing back in mid-January with it, 4 million of them have been distributed around the world (and that's as of an article from days ago), while we're still struggling to get people tested who need it.

[Dr kicker]

Dont know if its the same thing down south but here the provincial gouvernement closed all schools , cegep , university`s , daycare (private and subventioned) pretty much everything minors sports related , casino`s for 2 weeks minimum.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

Yea, sorry if I worded it wrong, that's what I was saying too.

I more meant it sounded like he was someone who may have NOW caught it because of the police just dropping him off at the hospital like that if there are tons of people there showing some type of symptoms.

That's what I thought was kinda wrong of them to do, guy should definitely be prosecuted for the DWI, but just leaving him at a hospital that is a bit overrun at the moment seems wrong, no?

Yeah the hospital didn’t want him. My buddy called it “The Purge” because this drunk was allowed to break the law without consequence.

Again, it’s just one guy, but still absolutely nuts!